Why do people draft?
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Thing is, the mighty Dynamo elite actually have stated that they won't wait for you so at least you know what to expect.
Its fun things like being stranded in the middle of nowhere with a broken bicycle while everyone cycles off that really makes a club an inclusive organisation and really make you feel wanted..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Fair enough, each to their own!MattFalle said:
Well, where do we start?pinkbikini said:
I’ll leave Millwall be then.MattFalle said:LD in taking themselves too seriously shocker. Again.
And please don't try and drag Milwall, the mighty mighty Milwall from The Den, down to LD level....
What’s the issue with the LD website copy though, since you raised it?
Bland. Unimaginative. Hyperbolic. Just shambolic tbh.
It seems like it has been written by somebody who has scoured the lower class modern cycling retailers such as Hunt and Dopey Millar and chosen the worst parts of their marketing designed to fluff average products the the unknowing and gullible then deep throated it down.
Its grey, grey, bland. None of it makes you inspired or smile. It actually makes you want to sell your bike and take up smoking and serious boozing with a bit of whoring on the side.
Compare it to Paragon - colourful, funny, self deprecating. They seem to be having fun, Dynamo are living in their own egos, writing cheques their bodies can't cash. Paragon members are also better looking from the looks of things.
And your kit is, well, so very clubbie. Not so much iconic as ironic.
Your "rides" section? Laughable. You're an amateur club made up of arrogant average riders. Don't patronise me.
You're not redolent of anything gritty except perhaps a hard shoulder off the M25.
Overall its a bit, well, tired and boring and badly written. It seems like its been written by a first year English under grad at a lower level polytechnic.
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jog on fella.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Now this is a shambles.
https://www.londondynamo.co.uk/join/
tbh dude, the more I look at your club the less appealing it is.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Complete a newcomers ride...and another section says they're invite only. Super inclusive.2
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Main benefit I can see is that it keeps them away from us.MattFalle said:Now this is a shambles.
https://www.londondynamo.co.uk/join/
tbh dude, the more I look at your club the less appealing it isThe above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
I hesitate to jump on the band wagon, but...
"broom wagon where possible" for laps of Richmond Park on a Wednesday night? Just doesn't sound necessary and a little pretentious. Its laps!0 -
Look, I've not got any skin in the game - I live a long way away and I merely challenge myself cycling and rowing for my own enjoyment (look this word up if it is unfamiliar to you). However, that website epitomises absolutely everything that is wrong with amateur sports clubs.
Might I suggest that if you have a bullying policy in a club like this there are only two possibilities (a) some of your members aren't tough enough (b) you have had a bullying problem.2 -
To be fair, every amateur sports club should have a safeguarding policy, so your assumptions really aren't justified.First.Aspect said:Look, I've not got any skin in the game - I live a long way away and I merely challenge myself cycling and rowing for my own enjoyment (look this word up if it is unfamiliar to you). However, that website epitomises absolutely everything that is wrong with amateur sports clubs.
Might I suggest that if you have a bullying policy in a club like this there are only two possibilities (a) some of your members aren't tough enough (b) you have had a bullying problem.
However, it doesn't come across as a friendly club from the website and is bloody expensive to become a member of in comparison to the clubs down here.0 -
tbf, it just looks total websters.Dorset_Boy said:
To be fair, every amateur sports club should have a safeguarding policy, so your assumptions really aren't justified.First.Aspect said:Look, I've not got any skin in the game - I live a long way away and I merely challenge myself cycling and rowing for my own enjoyment (look this word up if it is unfamiliar to you). However, that website epitomises absolutely everything that is wrong with amateur sports clubs.
Might I suggest that if you have a bullying policy in a club like this there are only two possibilities (a) some of your members aren't tough enough (b) you have had a bullying problem.
However, it doesn't come across as a friendly club from the website and is bloody expensive to become a member of in comparison to the clubs down here..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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"Cycle clubs don't need a bullying policy" - says a load of people who are effectively queueing up to trash a legitimate cycle club's entire membership and safeguarding policies.
Give your heads a wobble, the lot of you.3 -
Yes, yes, safeguarding is a legal requirement if you have a youth section and all that. Bullying policy though? For the adult membership? As one of the key parts of the website?
The point I'm making as flippantly as possible is that the focus of the website and the overall messaging is profoundly off putting. Lots of photos of committee members smiling as though they are squeezing out a f@art, some very serious and sincere messaging, some photos of men looking manly and seriously racing and nothing, whatsoever, that looks in any way fun. I would be more likely to react favourably to a "Your Country Needs You" poster.
This does not necessarily speak to the membership itself (although lets be honest, if you see that website and think, yes, that looks awesome, it may well do), but pinkbikini asked for feedback on the "copy" - and I'm happy to oblige.0 -
Off-putting to you, clearly. The club has over 500 members though. Maybe they don't share your opinion.First.Aspect said:The point I'm making as flippantly as possible is that the focus of the website and the overall messaging is profoundly off putting.
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FA - safeguarding doesn't just apply to having a youth section. Plenty of adults are vulnerable, hence ALL clubs need to have a safeguarding policy.
It may well be that LD feel they are at 'capacity' membership wise and therefore can afford to put across an 'exclusive' message.0 -
BTW - Dynamo is an accredited go-ride club. So you can all relax about the safeguarding and bullying policies now.
And the answer to your next question is "No, I'm not a member."0 -
They are in a city of 8 million people though. The home town of the club I don't have time to ride with has about 80 members and a population of 20,000.imposter2.0 said:
Off-putting to you, clearly. The club has over 500 members though. Maybe they don't share your opinion.First.Aspect said:The point I'm making as flippantly as possible is that the focus of the website and the overall messaging is profoundly off putting.
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It's a consequence of riding chain gangs - if you're in one, I assume that there's a pressure to maintain the formation and the speed. If you aren't, and get caught by one, this manifests itself in the chain gang thinking they have more right to the road space than you. And Dynamo ride around Richmond Park in chain gangs more than anyone else.0
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Ah, the "Rapha" of cycling clubs.Dorset_Boy said:FA - safeguarding doesn't just apply to having a youth section. Plenty of adults are vulnerable, hence ALL clubs need to have a safeguarding policy.
It may well be that LD feel they are at 'capacity' membership wise and therefore can afford to put across an 'exclusive' message.
I'm not a club type of person, Reginald. But no, they don't need to have a formal policy. If you are youth coaching, it is a requirement for obvious reasons. Should all clubs have a formal policy? I don't think so to be honest. A lot of little sports clubs are not much more than a Facebook page, a logo so some like minded people can race together, and a loose affiliation with a local bike shop. Lets not stamp that out, eh?0 -
Your point would only be valid if LD was the only cycling club in London, which it obviously isn't. BC's 'club finder' lists 195 cycle clubs in the London region.First.Aspect said:
They are in a city of 8 million people though. The home town of the club I don't have time to ride with has about 80 members and a population of 20,000.imposter2.0 said:
Off-putting to you, clearly. The club has over 500 members though. Maybe they don't share your opinion.First.Aspect said:The point I'm making as flippantly as possible is that the focus of the website and the overall messaging is profoundly off putting.
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nah, fam they have made it really expensive because they think they are special and serious and racin'Dorset_Boy said:
It may well be that LD feel they are at 'capacity' membership wise and therefore can afford to put across an 'exclusive' message.
when in actual fact that they're just total websters with a bad rep and a rubbish website
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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What is the "London region" - that's about half the UK population isn't it?imposter2.0 said:
Your point would only be valid if LD was the only cycling club in London, which it obviously isn't. BC's 'club finder' lists 195 cycle clubs in the London region.First.Aspect said:
They are in a city of 8 million people though. The home town of the club I don't have time to ride with has about 80 members and a population of 20,000.imposter2.0 said:
Off-putting to you, clearly. The club has over 500 members though. Maybe they don't share your opinion.First.Aspect said:The point I'm making as flippantly as possible is that the focus of the website and the overall messaging is profoundly off putting.
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I set the search criteria to 15 miles radius - so Twickenham CC out west and Barking & Dagenham CC to the east. I'm not interested in debating the demographics in this instance.First.Aspect said:
What is the "London region" - that's about half the UK population isn't it?imposter2.0 said:
Your point would only be valid if LD was the only cycling club in London, which it obviously isn't. BC's 'club finder' lists 195 cycle clubs in the London region.First.Aspect said:
They are in a city of 8 million people though. The home town of the club I don't have time to ride with has about 80 members and a population of 20,000.imposter2.0 said:
Off-putting to you, clearly. The club has over 500 members though. Maybe they don't share your opinion.First.Aspect said:The point I'm making as flippantly as possible is that the focus of the website and the overall messaging is profoundly off putting.
The point is - a membership of 500 is a respectable number for any cycle club, most of whom (you'd have to assume) do not share your opinion of it.
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By comparison, Manchester Wheelers, another large - abeit 'traditional' - cycle club, is listed as having 310 members.0
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Discussing things with you is always so enjoyable Imposter, even though I struggle to keep up with the wit and banter. Have you thought about joining LD? I think you'd fit right in.0
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If I'd set the search criteria to '300 miles away' they might have come up. I don't know enough about LD to decide whether I'd fit in or not. You've clearly already done that research and made up your mind, so you apparently have the advantage on me there...First.Aspect said:Discussing things with you is always so enjoyable Imposter, even though I struggle to keep up with the wit and banter. Have you thought about joining LD? I think you'd fit right in.
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Yeah, I'd agree I have the advantage of you.imposter2.0 said:
If I'd set the search criteria to '300 miles away' they might have come up. I don't know enough about LD to decide whether I'd fit in or not. You've clearly already done that research and made up your mind, so you apparently have the advantage on me there...First.Aspect said:Discussing things with you is always so enjoyable Imposter, even though I struggle to keep up with the wit and banter. Have you thought about joining LD? I think you'd fit right in.
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Yes, you're definitely better than me.First.Aspect said:
Yeah, I'd agree I have the advantage of you.imposter2.0 said:
If I'd set the search criteria to '300 miles away' they might have come up. I don't know enough about LD to decide whether I'd fit in or not. You've clearly already done that research and made up your mind, so you apparently have the advantage on me there...First.Aspect said:Discussing things with you is always so enjoyable Imposter, even though I struggle to keep up with the wit and banter. Have you thought about joining LD? I think you'd fit right in.
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Excellent! Taller, better looking, more affluent, funnier, more charming. I feel great now. Damn I love this forum.imposter2.0 said:
Yes, you're definitely better than me.First.Aspect said:
Yeah, I'd agree I have the advantage of you.imposter2.0 said:
If I'd set the search criteria to '300 miles away' they might have come up. I don't know enough about LD to decide whether I'd fit in or not. You've clearly already done that research and made up your mind, so you apparently have the advantage on me there...First.Aspect said:Discussing things with you is always so enjoyable Imposter, even though I struggle to keep up with the wit and banter. Have you thought about joining LD? I think you'd fit right in.
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You should celebrate by joining LD. By your own standards, you'd probably fit in a lot better than I would...First.Aspect said:
Excellent! Taller, better looking, more affluent, funnier, more charming. I feel great now. Damn I love this forum.imposter2.0 said:
Yes, you're definitely better than me.First.Aspect said:
Yeah, I'd agree I have the advantage of you.imposter2.0 said:
If I'd set the search criteria to '300 miles away' they might have come up. I don't know enough about LD to decide whether I'd fit in or not. You've clearly already done that research and made up your mind, so you apparently have the advantage on me there...First.Aspect said:Discussing things with you is always so enjoyable Imposter, even though I struggle to keep up with the wit and banter. Have you thought about joining LD? I think you'd fit right in.
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Which is weird since I don't see them around very much (I ride with another local club).imposter2.0 said:By comparison, Manchester Wheelers, another large - abeit 'traditional' - cycle club, is listed as having 310 members.
We don't have our own website (just a profile page on BC). No requirement for club kit. I have no idea if we have an anti-bullying policy...0
