Why do people draft?

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  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078

    womack said:

    Just how big is this Richmond Park???

    Its legend spans the entire globe.
    Sounds like Box Hill which if you listen to London based riders seems to be essentially Alpe d'Huez but in Surrey.
    It's the most ridden climb in the world on Strava!

    TBF, it is a nice road to cycle up, just needs to be a bit longer.
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  • flasher
    flasher Posts: 1,734

    womack said:

    Just how big is this Richmond Park???

    Its legend spans the entire globe.
    Sounds like Box Hill which if you listen to London based riders seems to be essentially Alpe d'Huez but in Surrey.
    Way way harder than Alpe d'Huez, so I've been told!
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    elbowloh said:

    womack said:

    Just how big is this Richmond Park???

    Its legend spans the entire globe.
    Sounds like Box Hill which if you listen to London based riders seems to be essentially Alpe d'Huez but in Surrey.
    It's the most ridden climb in the world on Strava!

    TBF, it is a nice road to cycle up, just needs to be a bit longer.
    What's fun about Box is that for the amateur, it has all the components for a great race.

    It's steep enough it feels like a proper hill and the bad climbers will get dropped but it's not so steep that you're going so slowly that drafting doesn't matter.

  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,206
    elbowloh said:

    womack said:

    Just how big is this Richmond Park???

    Its legend spans the entire globe.
    Sounds like Box Hill which if you listen to London based riders seems to be essentially Alpe d'Huez but in Surrey.
    It's the most ridden climb in the world on Strava!

    TBF, it is a nice road to cycle up, just needs to be a bit longer.
    It USED to be a nice road to cycle up. Now it is clogged with choppers.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    ibr17xvii said:

    ibr17xvii said:

    MattFalle said:

    who are you with by the way?


    I'm in a club of 1.
    Invitation only.

    Yes indeed.

    No existing clubbies, anyone with Hunt wheels or Ultegra groupsets welcome.
    Seriously though, if you are an existing clubbie or have moved over from another country and say are a national/regional champion do you still have to audition for the Dynamo massive?
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    womack said:

    Just how big is this Richmond Park???

    Its legend spans the entire globe.
    Sounds like Box Hill which if you listen to London based riders seems to be essentially Alpe d'Huez but in Surrey.
    I've heard its harder.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • nibnob21
    nibnob21 Posts: 207
    MattFalle said:

    ibr17xvii said:

    ibr17xvii said:

    MattFalle said:

    who are you with by the way?


    I'm in a club of 1.
    Invitation only.

    Yes indeed.

    No existing clubbies, anyone with Hunt wheels or Ultegra groupsets welcome.
    Seriously though, if you are an existing clubbie or have moved over from another country and say are a national/regional champion do you still have to audition for the Dynamo massive?

    I'm guessing there's a fast-track process if you're eastern European, what with your gritty riding ideals and all that.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    the gritty-est i believe.

    Do you think they are sit there and look at each other with admiration having all passed the arduous invite only riding test?

    Band of Brothers style? Like having passed Selection, but only on a bicycle in a park in London?
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • nibnob21
    nibnob21 Posts: 207
    Nah I reckon it's more of a whipping each other with wet towels in a sauna kind of vibe.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,573
    MattFalle said:

    womack said:

    Just how big is this Richmond Park???

    Its legend spans the entire globe.
    Sounds like Box Hill which if you listen to London based riders seems to be essentially Alpe d'Huez but in Surrey.
    I've heard its harder.
    Given the weight of your pomposity i'd imagine every incline would be extremely hard for you! :p
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,166

    womack said:

    Just how big is this Richmond Park???

    Its legend spans the entire globe.
    Sounds like Box Hill which if you listen to London based riders seems to be essentially Alpe d'Huez but in Surrey.
    Does Alpe d'Huez have a National Trust cafe at the top? I'll answer you - no it doesn't.
  • johngti
    johngti Posts: 2,508
    orraloon said:

    MattFalle said:

    Am intrigued at what stands you out to be a potential Dynamo.

    Do they have a checklist to gauge you against or are they such ardent talent spotters they can spot la grinta at a hundred yards/4 jumped red traffic lights?

    is there like a committee meeting where they discuss each potential new member?

    Would I have to do something unpleasant with the head of a dead pig?
    If you want to. What have you got in mind?
  • ibr17xvii
    ibr17xvii Posts: 1,065
    MattFalle said:

    ibr17xvii said:

    ibr17xvii said:

    MattFalle said:

    who are you with by the way?


    I'm in a club of 1.
    Invitation only.

    Yes indeed.

    No existing clubbies, anyone with Hunt wheels or Ultegra groupsets welcome.
    Seriously though, if you are an existing clubbie or have moved over from another country and say are a national/regional champion do you still have to audition for the Dynamo massive?


    Everyone has to audition I would guess.

    Literally everyone.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,206
    I heard the turned down Bradley Wiggins, because he wouldn't comply with the dress code.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    or audition for them.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    The 'Dynamo bashing' is getting very boring now. Predictable, tragic and rather pathetic. But that's only my opinion, obviously.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Well no need to come on this this thread then....
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    MattFalle said:

    Well no need to come on this this thread then....

    Like I said - just expressing my opinion. If that makes you uneasy, I may do it some more...
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Oh no fella, crack on. Doesn't bother me. Fill your boots.

    Its just a bit weird that if you find the subject matter boring then why come back? I don't particularly like going to the dentist so don't make monthly appointments.

    Lots of other threads for you to put your opinion on.

    Just a bit weird, tbh. But crack on.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    MattFalle said:

    Its just a bit weird that if you find the subject matter boring then why come back?

    The Dynamo bashing is your own particular bizarre obsession - but it's not the 'subject matter'.

    But yeah, let's have the topic turned into yet another matthewfalle wankfest.

  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    tbh, dynamo or this lot?

    https://www.brixtoncycles.cc/

    looks like someone has a better laugh tbh.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    MattFalle said:

    Its just a bit weird that if you find the subject matter boring then why come back?

    The Dynamo bashing is your own particular bizarre obsession - but it's not the 'subject matter'.

    But yeah, let's have the topic turned into yet another matthewfalle wankfest.

    cool. thank you.

    try harder and you may have one yourself one day instead of everyone just thinking that you are awanker.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,206
    This is going to be a blood bath.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    nah - not this log in i.d.

    bigger fish to fry.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    MattFalle said:

    nah - not this log in i.d.

    bigger fish to fry.

    You don't like being called out, do you. It upsets your delicate ego, I imagine. Thanks for the opportunity.
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    MattFalle said:

    tbh, dynamo or this lot?

    https://www.brixtoncycles.cc/

    looks like someone has a better laugh tbh.

    I don't know the cycling club, but the shop is a proper community cycling shop/hub. I think it's run as a collective.
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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,233
    johngti said:

    orraloon said:

    MattFalle said:

    Am intrigued at what stands you out to be a potential Dynamo.

    Do they have a checklist to gauge you against or are they such ardent talent spotters they can spot la grinta at a hundred yards/4 jumped red traffic lights?

    is there like a committee meeting where they discuss each potential new member?

    Would I have to do something unpleasant with the head of a dead pig?
    If you want to. What have you got in mind?
    I would refer you to a former, shiny-faced Prime Minister.
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    I did a bit of drafting today. I was on my way to meet the guys from the Jolly Farmers cycling team when I caught a guy up, I went past with a “Morning” only to be caught and repast about 500 metres further on. I gave him about 50 metres then closed the gap. At first I don’t think he realised I was there, so I released a loud snot rocket to warn him. At this his cadence increased followed by dropping in to a larger gear, this continued to a downhill junction at which he acknowledged was clear but then he shot up the following incline like a man who had robbed somewhere. Again I closed the gap and sat there till I arrived at my meeting point where I turned off wishing him a nice ride.
    I must do this more often.
  • johngti
    johngti Posts: 2,508
    I don’t think drafting was involved but a younger, much less heavy man flew past me on one of the 10-12% hills in the area this morning. I suspect he used me as a target because I wouldn’t have been fast enough for him to bother staying behind. A cheery “morning” as he flew past was very nice and off he went around the corner. He was obviously trying super hard though because as I rounded the bend he wasn’t all that far in front so I suspect he’d mourned some matches in passing me. He obviously recovers better than me too because he lost me easily within a few hundred yards of the top.
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,819
    Proves that you should always ease off a bit before making the catch so that you can really kick on once in front.