Why do people draft?

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  • johngti
    johngti Posts: 2,508
    They pretty much forced me into a hedge one Sunday morning. I was just pootling along enjoying the weather and the ride and a massive group of them swept past, more interested in having a chat with each other than giving me some room. It was early days in my riding too so I was still a bit wobbly. Not a word from them.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited April 2021
    Ah, hell ma boy.

    So, as we would call in the trade "bunch of hat twats" then?
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Why do people join these clubs?

    I honestly don't understand it.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • johngti
    johngti Posts: 2,508
    Have you actually ever met people?
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,819
    Ben6899 said:

    elbowloh said:

    Was just told that we have a new member joining the team at work and his name is Michael Fox.


    Great Scott!
    Nah, I think it was a Trek...
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    johngti said:

    Have you actually ever met people?

    well, yeah, but if you had the choice of hanging out with nice people or a bunch of twats, why would you choose the latter?

    what appeals to being assiciated with a club like Dynamo? Do you hear them being talked about and think, yeah, thats the one for me.

    "see that bunch of twats, that's Dynamo"

    "cool. i was looking for a new club to join."
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • johngti
    johngti Posts: 2,508
    I think there's a certain type of person who would classify themselves as the alpha male/female in any group (usually erroneously) and see the club as a club of similar (nowhere near) alpha males/females who deserve to have them as part of the group. They don't see themselves as twats, just as better than everyone else.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Coolio. I see the logic but I can't see the appeal.

    but that's just me, perhaps I'm in the wrong.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • womack
    womack Posts: 566
    edited April 2021
    johngti said:

    They pretty much forced me into a hedge one Sunday morning. I was just pootling along enjoying the weather and the ride and a massive group of them swept past, more interested in having a chat with each other than giving me some room. It was early days in my riding too so I was still a bit wobbly. Not a word from them.



    I've had pretty much the same happen to me in my neck of the words.

    Obviously I don't want to embarrass anyone so won't mention the club.




  • me-109
    me-109 Posts: 1,915

    Also - what sort of ar$ehole goes around, riding up to people on training rides gloating that it's at a conversational pace for them?

    I'd be annoyed as well

    Is there anything wrong with taking training seriously on a Wednesday night?

    Apologies, I forgot I'm not in South London anymore where Dulwich Paragon are the butt of most cyclists jokes, although they're very good at racing. I've been in too many races where their light blue jersey is tantalisingly in the distance...

    BTW I do chaingangs on a Thursday evening and would welcome the company, especially when I get dropped...
    I thought paragon were nice guys and dynamo were the ones with a bad rep?
    I just have visions of a Monty Python 'People's Liberation Front of Judea ' scenario mixing up club identities.
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,819
    me-109 said:

    Also - what sort of ar$ehole goes around, riding up to people on training rides gloating that it's at a conversational pace for them?

    I'd be annoyed as well

    Is there anything wrong with taking training seriously on a Wednesday night?

    Apologies, I forgot I'm not in South London anymore where Dulwich Paragon are the butt of most cyclists jokes, although they're very good at racing. I've been in too many races where their light blue jersey is tantalisingly in the distance...

    BTW I do chaingangs on a Thursday evening and would welcome the company, especially when I get dropped...
    I thought paragon were nice guys and dynamo were the ones with a bad rep?
    I just have visions of a Monty Python 'People's Liberation Front of Judea ' scenario mixing up club identities.
    Splitters!
  • cruff
    cruff Posts: 1,518

    Also - what sort of ar$ehole goes around, riding up to people on training rides gloating that it's at a conversational pace for them?

    I'd be annoyed as well

    Is there anything wrong with taking training seriously on a Wednesday night?

    Apologies, I forgot I'm not in South London anymore where Dulwich Paragon are the butt of most cyclists jokes, although they're very good at racing. I've been in too many races where their light blue jersey is tantalisingly in the distance...

    BTW I do chaingangs on a Thursday evening and would welcome the company, especially when I get dropped...
    Schrodinger's chainganger:

    Able to sit on and have a chat with people they don't know just to wind them up... but unable to pull through 🙄
    Fat chopper. Some racing. Some testing. Some crashing.
    Specialising in Git Daaahns and Cafs. Norvern Munkey/Transplanted Laaandoner.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    womack said:

    johngti said:

    They pretty much forced me into a hedge one Sunday morning. I was just pootling along enjoying the weather and the ride and a massive group of them swept past, more interested in having a chat with each other than giving me some room. It was early days in my riding too so I was still a bit wobbly. Not a word from them.



    I've had pretty much the same happen to me in my neck of the words.

    Obviously I don't want to embarrass anyone so won't mention the club.




    Let me guess. Somewhere near the Wirrall...??

  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    My word, that's one hell of an awful kit they have.

    Do people actually pay for that stuff?
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • cruff
    cruff Posts: 1,518
    womack said:

    johngti said:

    They pretty much forced me into a hedge one Sunday morning. I was just pootling along enjoying the weather and the ride and a massive group of them swept past, more interested in having a chat with each other than giving me some room. It was early days in my riding too so I was still a bit wobbly. Not a word from them.



    I've had pretty much the same happen to me in my neck of the words.

    Obviously I don't want to embarrass anyone so won't mention the club.




    Funny that - their racers are shite as well. Twitchy, choppy and lazy. Still, at least they aren't as mouthy as some of the other clubs from that neck of the woods... (I'll shut up now, because you'll probably be a member of one of them 🤣🤣🤣)
    Fat chopper. Some racing. Some testing. Some crashing.
    Specialising in Git Daaahns and Cafs. Norvern Munkey/Transplanted Laaandoner.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    nah - name and shame.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    On the London commute I used to really gun it up and down embankment and given the volume of cyclists, you would inevitably collect drafters, especially in headwinds.

    Usually this wasn't a big problem - fun to try to drop them - but I did go through a period where guys would latch on in heavy traffic and crash into the back of me as I stopped for zebra crossings.

    One week had two quite bad accidents where each time they said they weren't expecting me to stop for them. :|

  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,342
    We can only hope that the idiots learned a lesson.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,819
    But did you have disc brakes??
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    pblakeney said:

    We can only hope that the idiots learned a lesson.

    It got really f*cking annoying after a while. I think at one point I taped "don't draft me" to the back of my commuting rucksack. This did not last.

    Doubly annoying as I'm hardly a decent wind break at the best of times, given how small I am.

    One of the posters over on commuting chat was properly quick and I would often see him on the commute like the pied piper - people queuing up to ride behind him.

    It would have bothered me a bit during rona if people drafted, but they never did.

    Normally it wouldn't bother me, but then I wouldn't do it myself without having had some sort of interaction with a rider beforehand.

    I think generally you just want the context to be reasonable. Drafting at a fairly high speed with loads of road furniture and lights etc is stupid.

    Latching onto someone on a very deserted country road without saying hi is weird behaviour but hardly dangerous.

    Just be sensible.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Did you have mirrors on your bicycle?
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    You mean that you don't?
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    i don't need them.

    what's behind me is history.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,342
    Key thing about unannounced drafters in town is that they won’t receive verbal warnings. Just crashes.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • cruff
    cruff Posts: 1,518

    pblakeney said:

    We can only hope that the idiots learned a lesson.

    It got really f*cking annoying after a while. I think at one point I taped "don't draft me" to the back of my commuting rucksack. This did not last.

    Doubly annoying as I'm hardly a decent wind break at the best of times, given how small I am.

    One of the posters over on commuting chat was properly quick and I would often see him on the commute like the pied piper - people queuing up to ride behind him.

    It would have bothered me a bit during rona if people drafted, but they never did.

    Normally it wouldn't bother me, but then I wouldn't do it myself without having had some sort of interaction with a rider beforehand.

    I think generally you just want the context to be reasonable. Drafting at a fairly high speed with loads of road furniture and lights etc is stupid.

    Latching onto someone on a very deserted country road without saying hi is weird behaviour but hardly dangerous.

    Just be sensible.
    iPete?
    Fat chopper. Some racing. Some testing. Some crashing.
    Specialising in Git Daaahns and Cafs. Norvern Munkey/Transplanted Laaandoner.
  • Onegear
    Onegear Posts: 76

    pblakeney said:

    We can only hope that the idiots learned a lesson.

    It got really f*cking annoying after a while. I think at one point I taped "don't draft me" to the back of my commuting rucksack. This did not last.

    Doubly annoying as I'm hardly a decent wind break at the best of times, given how small I am.

    One of the posters over on commuting chat was properly quick and I would often see him on the commute like the pied piper - people queuing up to ride behind him.

    It would have bothered me a bit during rona if people drafted, but they never did.

    Normally it wouldn't bother me, but then I wouldn't do it myself without having had some sort of interaction with a rider beforehand.

    I think generally you just want the context to be reasonable. Drafting at a fairly high speed with loads of road furniture and lights etc is stupid.

    Latching onto someone on a very deserted country road without saying hi is weird behaviour but hardly dangerous.

    Just be sensible.
    Sensible is really lacking on two wheels sometimes in London.

    Agree with a lot youve written though its quite hard to avoid drafting/riding closely with strangers in Regents or Richmond Park or on cycle paths. Might need to get a sign that says 'Obeys the rules of the road - frequent stops'
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    cruff said:

    pblakeney said:

    We can only hope that the idiots learned a lesson.

    It got really f*cking annoying after a while. I think at one point I taped "don't draft me" to the back of my commuting rucksack. This did not last.

    Doubly annoying as I'm hardly a decent wind break at the best of times, given how small I am.

    One of the posters over on commuting chat was properly quick and I would often see him on the commute like the pied piper - people queuing up to ride behind him.

    It would have bothered me a bit during rona if people drafted, but they never did.

    Normally it wouldn't bother me, but then I wouldn't do it myself without having had some sort of interaction with a rider beforehand.

    I think generally you just want the context to be reasonable. Drafting at a fairly high speed with loads of road furniture and lights etc is stupid.

    Latching onto someone on a very deserted country road without saying hi is weird behaviour but hardly dangerous.

    Just be sensible.
    iPete?
    CJ
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    CJ Craig?
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • pinkbikini
    pinkbikini Posts: 876
    edited April 2021
    MattFalle said:

    Looking at both clubs' websites it does seem that dynamo take themselves far far far too seriously.....

    the copy like something from the hunt website..

    So I’ve been with LD for about 15yrs. I know we’re viewed like Millwall, hey-ho. Luckily BR forumites are not representative of the real world.

    But why do we take ourselves ‘far far far too seriously’ based on the website?

    And what do you have against commas?
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,206
    London yadda yadda yadda London yadda. Zzzzz