2022 Transfers: Rumours & Facts
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It'll be interesting to see how their accounts change in the next few years. If they're spending anywhere near what they were in 2018 they're being ripped off.Pross said:
I'd never heard of him so looked him up. Looking purely at the results on PCS for the last 2 seasons I'm struggling to see what he has done to entice a WT contract. They've obviously seen some potential in him but PCS only has 2 results for this season.r0bh said:18 year old Michael Leonard turning pro with Ineos next year
It feels like they have a very young squad there now and have lost quite a lot of experience this year."Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago1 -
Equipment and buses don't come cheap and are all getting more & more expensive.gsk82 said:
It'll be interesting to see how their accounts change in the next few years. If they're spending anywhere near what they were in 2018 they're being ripped off.Pross said:
I'd never heard of him so looked him up. Looking purely at the results on PCS for the last 2 seasons I'm struggling to see what he has done to entice a WT contract. They've obviously seen some potential in him but PCS only has 2 results for this season.r0bh said:18 year old Michael Leonard turning pro with Ineos next year
It feels like they have a very young squad there now and have lost quite a lot of experience this year.
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And diesel to go in the buses!pblakeney said:
Equipment and buses don't come cheap and are all getting more & more expensive.gsk82 said:
It'll be interesting to see how their accounts change in the next few years. If they're spending anywhere near what they were in 2018 they're being ripped off.Pross said:
I'd never heard of him so looked him up. Looking purely at the results on PCS for the last 2 seasons I'm struggling to see what he has done to entice a WT contract. They've obviously seen some potential in him but PCS only has 2 results for this season.r0bh said:18 year old Michael Leonard turning pro with Ineos next year
It feels like they have a very young squad there now and have lost quite a lot of experience this year.
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Have a I missed it? Any news on where Cav is going?“You may think that; I couldn’t possibly comment!”
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He probably has W/kg like crazy and the lack of results may be down to crashing perennially. Ineos material right there. 😉😜Pross said:
I'd never heard of him so looked him up. Looking purely at the results on PCS for the last 2 seasons I'm struggling to see what he has done to entice a WT contract. They've obviously seen some potential in him but PCS only has 2 results for this season.r0bh said:18 year old Michael Leonard turning pro with Ineos next year
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B and B hotels is the expectation.dabber said:Have a I missed it? Any news on where Cav is going?
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Daniel Benson suggesting Brailsford has made a direct contact with Lefevre to try and 'buy' Remco. Ratcliffe wants TDF success back apparently.2020/2021/2022 Metric Century Challenge Winner1
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There is no way Lefevre will sell Remco. He just extended the contract lst year did he not? Why sell the golden child?
QS doesn't have any blue chip riders outside of him and Alaphilippe (and maybe Asgreen, but that is a bit of a stretch). Usually the focus would be the classics, but they are no longer really strong there and that may not just be by chance. It may very well be that they made a conscious effort to become more of a GT team to benefit from having Remco. Makes no sense to then sell him.PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 20230 -
That would be quite the shift from Ineos following their transfer activity the last couple of years. Although it would be in line with their backing the wrong horse circa 2017."Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago0
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Reckon Remco to Ineos is pure clickbait nonsense to be honest. I'd be very surprised if anything came of it.0
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The only reason for it I can see is that QS doesn't want to be a tour focused GT team.
Basically, keep Remco until his value is at maximum and then take a huuuge chunk of change to end the contract.
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I'm guessing his value is pretty high currently, GT winner, and rainbow stripes, combined with 'locked' into a long contract.
Maybe it would even suit all parties if he were to shift to Ineos.
He'd get a whacking massive salary, he'd have a solid team to support him in the grand tours, or whatever he wants to take on, and QS would get a massive payment to buy him out of the contract.
Ineos end up with a new, and young No1 rider to focus on for the Tour.
I imagine for Brailsford especially, and Ellingworth too, it must gnaw away at them not having a viable contender for le tour currently - well unless Bernal returns to previous levels, but that's a big if and a total unknown.Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
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I wonder if this means they know that's unlikely. I guess they knew similar when they let Froome go.daniel_b said:unless Bernal returns to previous levels, but that's a big if and a total unknown.
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Could be, and or they are just hedging their bets - they must have saved a fair amount of money with the riders they have let go, Van Baarle, Yates, Carapaz, plus Thomas must have taken a decent paycut, and is near the end of his contract, so I'm guessing the available 'budget' must be reasonably high in comparison to previous years.carbonclem said:
I wonder if this means they know that's unlikely. I guess they knew similar when they let Froome go.daniel_b said:unless Bernal returns to previous levels, but that's a big if and a total unknown.
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Does QS have the budget to keep both Alaphalippe and Remco (as well as Asgreen et al)? I thought their budget was one of the smaller ones, which is one reason why they focus on classics rather than GTs.0
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Would a Belgian team really let go of a young Belgian rider who is currently winning pretty much everything he enters?
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Surely Jakobsen counts as blue chip?m.r.m. said:There is no way Lefevre will sell Remco. He just extended the contract lst year did he not? Why sell the golden child?
QS doesn't have any blue chip riders outside of him and Alaphilippe (and maybe Asgreen, but that is a bit of a stretch). Usually the focus would be the classics, but they are no longer really strong there and that may not just be by chance. It may very well be that they made a conscious effort to become more of a GT team to benefit from having Remco. Makes no sense to then sell him.
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Evenepoel agitated for a move to Ineos. QS are a classics and sprint team, with a smattering of third-tier climbers brought in to give Alaphillipe a bit of help in the hillier races. To build a team to give Evenepoel the support he'll need would a) cost more budget than Leferve probably has and b) go against his DNA.
Evenepoel will look at Ineos' line-up and conclude it has everything he needs to win more GTs.1 -
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An Ineos supported Remco vs the might of Jumbo Visma vs Pog in his prime would be a mouthwatering prospect.2
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It would allow them to "ease" Bernal back in via the Giro/Vuelta as well, while taking the pressure off of Arensman (much as Roglic did with Vingegaard in 2021)mrb123 said:An Ineos supported Remco vs the might of Jumbo Visma vs Pog in his prime would be a mouthwatering prospect.
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I suspect the only way it could ever happen is if RV and his manager/Dad drove it themselves, and perhaps if Pat knew RV would stay, but would not be 'that' happy to stay, combined with a large cash windfall, maybe it could happen somehow.
As mentioned, it would certainly stir up things massively.Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
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A match made in heaven! It's like they miss Marc Soler so much they decide to go for the low-cost Portuguese version:
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Quintana leaving Arkea-Samsic, destination unknown (but probably Movistar).
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Could be enforced retirement, could be Israel Retirement Nation.1
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Rumour today is PFP is going to Ineos. Seemingly confirmed by a few people as well.2
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Saw a rumour on Twitter this morning Nairo is off to AG2R.
No idea how much weight there is in it. I'm the guy who bought Cav to EF hook, like and sinker a couple of months ago so make of that what you will.1