2022 Transfers: Rumours & Facts

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  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    What about Uno X.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,553
    What about them? They've not shown anything this year to suggest they deserve a Tour ride.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    edited October 2022
    webboo said:

    What about Uno X.


    If they couldn't get a wildcard on the back of a Copenhagen start, they're not going to get one in 2023.

    Edit: Also remember Froome is turning up to the ASO's criteriums in Japan and Singapore. Niklas Eg isn't.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    Biggest "Transfer" news this winter is surely that the Ineos Grenadier (the real, car one) has finally arrived and is available to buy!

    If you want to hear two wideboys from the 'diff talking about lad culture, listen to Gee and Luke's podcast this week...
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  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 11,985
    daniel_b said:

    The wonderful PFP is now with Ineos.


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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    edited November 2022
    Word from the boyos is that she can "derRINK!" too... 😁

    Saw a few of the young Grenadiers off under the table.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Not sure being able to outdrink a pro cyclist is much of a claim!
  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    Pross said:

    Not sure being able to outdrink a pro cyclist is much of a claim!

    She won the arm wrestling contest to.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    Pross said:

    Not sure being able to outdrink a pro cyclist is much of a claim!

    If you're also a pro cyclist it might be though ;)
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,553
    After saying he wasn't moving to UAE earlier this week, today the team announced that Jay Vine is joining them on a two-year deal.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    andyp said:

    After saying he wasn't moving to UAE earlier this week, today the team announced that Jay Vine is joining them on a two-year deal.

    Good reminder public statements at this time of year are as much a part of negotiations as much else.
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,475
    Super strong signing for the Tour.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    ddraver said:

    Pross said:

    Not sure being able to outdrink a pro cyclist is much of a claim!

    If you're also a pro cyclist it might be though ;)
    Not sure it qualifies as showing she can derINK as you put it though.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    Fuckn...take it up with Gee, spa...

    ;)
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  • *tumbleweed* on Cav... please dont let it end this way :neutral:
  • carbonclem
    carbonclem Posts: 1,784
    m.r.m. said:

    Seems silly. Ineos should sign him for minimum money and get the record. They aren't going to be doing anything big at the Tour anyway.

    That would be a nice plan. Market it as an exiting GB rider handing on to the youngsters etc.
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  • super_davo
    super_davo Posts: 1,228

    m.r.m. said:

    Seems silly. Ineos should sign him for minimum money and get the record. They aren't going to be doing anything big at the Tour anyway.

    That would be a nice plan. Market it as an exiting GB rider handing on to the youngsters etc.
    They also have Viviani, who would make a great lead out man. And big engines to pull breaks back like Ganna & Sheffield. Not going to happen though.
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 11,985

    m.r.m. said:

    Seems silly. Ineos should sign him for minimum money and get the record. They aren't going to be doing anything big at the Tour anyway.

    That would be a nice plan. Market it as an exiting GB rider handing on to the youngsters etc.
    They also have Viviani, who would make a great lead out man. And big engines to pull breaks back like Ganna & Sheffield. Not going to happen though.
    Great shout - realistically they have no hope, and bob hope of winning the tour in 2023, where as targeting stages and the taking the overall stages won crown in that jersey you would have thought would be worth a fair amount.

    Shame it will almost certainly not come to fruition.

    The B&B situ sounds dire, seems likely that most of his eggs were in that basket, I hope he can find a viable alternative.
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  • JimD666
    JimD666 Posts: 2,293
    There's a write up on GCN that basically has Cav going to INEOS as described. Fairly substantial rumours to the effect at least.

    Would be great but not holding breath

  • JimD666 said:

    There's a write up on GCN that basically has Cav going to INEOS as described. Fairly substantial rumours to the effect at least.

    Would be great but not holding breath

    Sadly, I suspect that says as much about Bernal's recovery as anything else.

    Might give them something to do whilst they're getting their July GC house in order.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    ....although I can imagine SDB going a little romantic in his old age. Ratcliffe would, I'm sure, also be up for it...
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  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,475
    Getting the record in the British Champs jersey is significant for a British team. It's a win-win for everyone.
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,553
    m.r.m. said:

    Getting the record in the British Champs jersey is significant for a British team. It's a win-win for everyone.

    He'd have to retain his national title first.
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,475
    Ah true. Wasn't sure if the British RR is prior to the TdF.
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  • m.r.m. said:

    Getting the record in the British Champs jersey is significant for a British team. It's a win-win for everyone.

    British? I'm sure Ratcliffe would register the team in France if there was a tax break for him.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253

    m.r.m. said:

    Getting the record in the British Champs jersey is significant for a British team. It's a win-win for everyone.

    British? I'm sure Ratcliffe would register the team in France if there was a tax break for him.

    The contrary is true. French teams, as French companies, have to pay employment tax which puts them at a disadvantage. I've often wondered why AG2R don't set up shop in Switzerland which is not far from Chambery. FdJ (government funded) and Cofidis (like Ineos owned by the sponsor) can't
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  • carbonclem
    carbonclem Posts: 1,784
    Ineos just announced the Ben Turner extension, so maybe they are on a roll? :dizzy:
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  • RichN95. said:

    m.r.m. said:

    Getting the record in the British Champs jersey is significant for a British team. It's a win-win for everyone.

    British? I'm sure Ratcliffe would register the team in France if there was a tax break for him.

    The contrary is true. French teams, as French companies, have to pay employment tax which puts them at a disadvantage. I've often wondered why AG2R don't set up shop in Switzerland which is not far from Chambery. FdJ (government funded) and Cofidis (like Ineos owned by the sponsor) can't
    The riders at Ineos dont appear to be employees though. unless you think 4m euro is their team salary budget and that there are only 10 or so employees that aren’t riders.
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,601
    RichN95. said:

    m.r.m. said:

    Getting the record in the British Champs jersey is significant for a British team. It's a win-win for everyone.

    British? I'm sure Ratcliffe would register the team in France if there was a tax break for him.

    The contrary is true. French teams, as French companies, have to pay employment tax which puts them at a disadvantage. I've often wondered why AG2R don't set up shop in Switzerland which is not far from Chambery. FdJ (government funded) and Cofidis (like Ineos owned by the sponsor) can't
    Been Swiss would effect their French persona, which undoubtedly helps on the face of it. They'd be just another foreign team when in France.
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