The Royals
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Ba ba dum dum dum,
Another gammon bites the dust
Markle 3 - 0 UK pressWe're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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You don't have to believe her no, but you should be open minded when someone says they've been suicidal and a victim of racism.shortfall said:
As opposed to her calling people whatever she wants without any proof but we have to believe her?elbowloh said:
It's got absolutely nothing to do with woke. He called her a liar and has no evidence for that. It's about him sulking because she cut him off and his ego not being able to take it.david37 said:Good news Piers isn't changing his mind. Good on him.
All this woke victimhood is tedious. She was an actress. its one of the ways they get ahead. The other is nobbing princes https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-563437680 -
That didn’t work out so well for Lance when he played the cancer card.elbowloh said:
You don't have to believe her no, but you should be open minded when someone says they've been suicidal and a victim of racism.shortfall said:
As opposed to her calling people whatever she wants without any proof but we have to believe her?elbowloh said:
It's got absolutely nothing to do with woke. He called her a liar and has no evidence for that. It's about him sulking because she cut him off and his ego not being able to take it.david37 said:Good news Piers isn't changing his mind. Good on him.
All this woke victimhood is tedious. She was an actress. its one of the ways they get ahead. The other is nobbing princes https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-56343768
But maybe that’s one for the irony thread."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Not sure it's comparible and pretty sure Lance never suffered racism. Lance was a doper, a cheat and had a lifetime of misleading people. What did Meghan do to start getting abuse? She was born mixed race and dared to marry a prince.blazing_saddles said:
That didn’t work out so well for Lance when he played the cancer card.elbowloh said:
You don't have to believe her no, but you should be open minded when someone says they've been suicidal and a victim of racism.shortfall said:
As opposed to her calling people whatever she wants without any proof but we have to believe her?elbowloh said:
It's got absolutely nothing to do with woke. He called her a liar and has no evidence for that. It's about him sulking because she cut him off and his ego not being able to take it.david37 said:Good news Piers isn't changing his mind. Good on him.
All this woke victimhood is tedious. She was an actress. its one of the ways they get ahead. The other is nobbing princes https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-56343768
But maybe that’s one for the irony thread.1 -
She's a bit of a diva, apparently.1
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You've lost me with the use of hindsight, after requesting open mindedness.elbowloh said:
Not sure it's comparible and pretty sure Lance never suffered racism. Lance was a doper, a cheat and had a lifetime of misleading people. What did Meghan do to start getting abuse? She was born mixed race and dared to marry a prince.blazing_saddles said:
That didn’t work out so well for Lance when he played the cancer card.elbowloh said:
You don't have to believe her no, but you should be open minded when someone says they've been suicidal and a victim of racism.shortfall said:
As opposed to her calling people whatever she wants without any proof but we have to believe her?elbowloh said:
It's got absolutely nothing to do with woke. He called her a liar and has no evidence for that. It's about him sulking because she cut him off and his ego not being able to take it.david37 said:Good news Piers isn't changing his mind. Good on him.
All this woke victimhood is tedious. She was an actress. its one of the ways they get ahead. The other is nobbing princes https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-56343768
But maybe that’s one for the irony thread.
Anyhow, I wasn't interested in them when they were a royal couple, so I am even less interested in them now.
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Tbh, I had no idea that l Lance played that card. So really shouldn't have commented backblazing_saddles said:
You've lost me with the use of hindsight, after requesting open mindedness.elbowloh said:
Not sure it's comparible and pretty sure Lance never suffered racism. Lance was a doper, a cheat and had a lifetime of misleading people. What did Meghan do to start getting abuse? She was born mixed race and dared to marry a prince.blazing_saddles said:
That didn’t work out so well for Lance when he played the cancer card.elbowloh said:
You don't have to believe her no, but you should be open minded when someone says they've been suicidal and a victim of racism.shortfall said:
As opposed to her calling people whatever she wants without any proof but we have to believe her?elbowloh said:
It's got absolutely nothing to do with woke. He called her a liar and has no evidence for that. It's about him sulking because she cut him off and his ego not being able to take it.david37 said:Good news Piers isn't changing his mind. Good on him.
All this woke victimhood is tedious. She was an actress. its one of the ways they get ahead. The other is nobbing princes https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-56343768
But maybe that’s one for the irony thread.
Anyhow, I wasn't interested in them when they were a royal couple, so I am even less interested in them now.
I really didn't follow the whole thing that closely or professional cycling as a whole.
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People should remember Morgan was a tabloid editor of a newspaper actively hacking phones. He either did not know how his staff got stories which is incompetence on a grand scale or he is a liar. Maybe it is ironic him calling Meghan a liar.1
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Maybe he's been listening to what she says about him in private.1
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I'l just put om my asbestos suit for when I get flamed by the usual suspects.
But regarding the incendiary claim that someone wondered how dark skinned the baby would be.
When Mrs BM was pregnant, we, including extended family, wondered which physical characteristics the kids would inherit, who would they take after etc What colour hair, whose nose and all that.
In a mixed race relationship, why is it so odd that people would wonder about which characteristics a baby will inherit? Skin colour being the most obvious one.1 -
Perhaps they should have had a shade reveal party.ballysmate said:I'l just put om my asbestos suit for when I get flamed by the usual suspects.
But regarding the incendiary claim that someone wondered how dark skinned the baby would be.
When Mrs BM was pregnant, we, including extended family, wondered which physical characteristics the kids would inherit, who would they take after etc What colour hair, whose nose and all that.
In a mixed race relationship, why is it so odd that people would wonder about which characteristics a baby will inherit? Skin colour being the most obvious one.
But seriously, that was my first thought, that someone was innocently speculating. Did they also ask if it would be ginger? I doubt if we will ever know.0 -
They didn't say what was actually said so you can speculate as much as you want to make you feel your position is right about it, but you won't be any nearer to what happened.ballysmate said:I'l just put om my asbestos suit for when I get flamed by the usual suspects.
But regarding the incendiary claim that someone wondered how dark skinned the baby would be.
When Mrs BM was pregnant, we, including extended family, wondered which physical characteristics the kids would inherit, who would they take after etc What colour hair, whose nose and all that.
In a mixed race relationship, why is it so odd that people would wonder about which characteristics a baby will inherit? Skin colour being the most obvious one.
For all we know they said "oh my god let's hope the baby is white". You don't know, I don't know.0 -
rick_chasey said:
They didn't say what was actually said so you can speculate as much as you want to make you feel your position is right about it, but you won't be any nearer to what happened.ballysmate said:I'l just put om my asbestos suit for when I get flamed by the usual suspects.
But regarding the incendiary claim that someone wondered how dark skinned the baby would be.
When Mrs BM was pregnant, we, including extended family, wondered which physical characteristics the kids would inherit, who would they take after etc What colour hair, whose nose and all that.
In a mixed race relationship, why is it so odd that people would wonder about which characteristics a baby will inherit? Skin colour being the most obvious one.
For all we know they said "oh my god let's hope the baby is white". You don't know, I don't know.
True, and we’ll almost certainly never know.
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Morgan should have been put in the same position he put the lads in after that disgusting piece let alone not being able to work in the media.elbowloh said:
You can take that paragraph, swap the "she" for "he" and there's a lot more evidence for that. Remember what he got sacked from the Mirror for?david37 said:
He said he didn't believe a word of what she said. What evidence does he need for that?elbowloh said:
It's got absolutely nothing to do with woke. He called her a liar and has no evidence for that. It's about him sulking because she cut him off and his ego not being able to take it.david37 said:Good news Piers isn't changing his mind. Good on him.
All this woke victimhood is tedious. She was an actress. its one of the ways they get ahead. The other is nobbing princes https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-56343768
I think she's a calculating untrustworthy manipulative trout. there's plenty of evidence for that.
Should never have been allowed to work in the media again after that.
morgan is a disgusting lizard. long may he rot..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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rick_chasey said:
They didn't say what was actually said so you can speculate as much as you want to make you feel your position is right about it, but you won't be any nearer to what happened.ballysmate said:I'l just put om my asbestos suit for when I get flamed by the usual suspects.
But regarding the incendiary claim that someone wondered how dark skinned the baby would be.
When Mrs BM was pregnant, we, including extended family, wondered which physical characteristics the kids would inherit, who would they take after etc What colour hair, whose nose and all that.
In a mixed race relationship, why is it so odd that people would wonder about which characteristics a baby will inherit? Skin colour being the most obvious one.
For all we know they said "oh my god let's hope the baby is white". You don't know, I don't know.
Well that seems to be an issue with the interview, the half reveal, the insinuation and the faux shock from the interviewer.
If you are going to make revelations/claims say it. Say who said what.0 -
You still seem to think you're the audience that they were trying to reach.0
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Yeah this seems to have bugged you. I'll refer you to the Olusoga comment I mentioned upthread.ballysmate said:rick_chasey said:
They didn't say what was actually said so you can speculate as much as you want to make you feel your position is right about it, but you won't be any nearer to what happened.ballysmate said:I'l just put om my asbestos suit for when I get flamed by the usual suspects.
But regarding the incendiary claim that someone wondered how dark skinned the baby would be.
When Mrs BM was pregnant, we, including extended family, wondered which physical characteristics the kids would inherit, who would they take after etc What colour hair, whose nose and all that.
In a mixed race relationship, why is it so odd that people would wonder about which characteristics a baby will inherit? Skin colour being the most obvious one.
For all we know they said "oh my god let's hope the baby is white". You don't know, I don't know.
Well that seems to be an issue with the interview, the half reveal, the insinuation and the faux shock from the interviewer.
If you are going to make revelations/claims say it. Say who said what.0 -
To say Oprah was less than forensic in her questioning would be something of an understatement, and that's being charitable.ballysmate said:rick_chasey said:
They didn't say what was actually said so you can speculate as much as you want to make you feel your position is right about it, but you won't be any nearer to what happened.ballysmate said:I'l just put om my asbestos suit for when I get flamed by the usual suspects.
But regarding the incendiary claim that someone wondered how dark skinned the baby would be.
When Mrs BM was pregnant, we, including extended family, wondered which physical characteristics the kids would inherit, who would they take after etc What colour hair, whose nose and all that.
In a mixed race relationship, why is it so odd that people would wonder about which characteristics a baby will inherit? Skin colour being the most obvious one.
For all we know they said "oh my god let's hope the baby is white". You don't know, I don't know.
Well that seems to be an issue with the interview, the half reveal, the insinuation and the faux shock from the interviewer.
If you are going to make revelations/claims say it. Say who said what.1 -
Well yeah.shortfall said:
To say Oprah was less than forensic in her questioning would be something of an understatement, and that's being charitable.ballysmate said:rick_chasey said:
They didn't say what was actually said so you can speculate as much as you want to make you feel your position is right about it, but you won't be any nearer to what happened.ballysmate said:I'l just put om my asbestos suit for when I get flamed by the usual suspects.
But regarding the incendiary claim that someone wondered how dark skinned the baby would be.
When Mrs BM was pregnant, we, including extended family, wondered which physical characteristics the kids would inherit, who would they take after etc What colour hair, whose nose and all that.
In a mixed race relationship, why is it so odd that people would wonder about which characteristics a baby will inherit? Skin colour being the most obvious one.
For all we know they said "oh my god let's hope the baby is white". You don't know, I don't know.
Well that seems to be an issue with the interview, the half reveal, the insinuation and the faux shock from the interviewer.
If you are going to make revelations/claims say it. Say who said what.
For Americans the royals are celebrities. They're not part of the fabric of the nation or the history.
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In all this it is assumed that Meghan and Harry are mere plebs. If the claim is true that someone queried the babies colour in a manner that is rascist both of them are in a good position to shut that down. If it is a staffer do we really believe that Harry has not got the power to influence that person's propsects. If it was a family member it should have been called out at the time. The whole thing is an embarrassment for all concerned.1
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I tend to agree. Although as far as I'm concerned, the inference can be taken that the comment was made by either his dad, or his brother. I think he mentioned in the interview that he was 'rebuilding' relationships with both of them at the moment - so calling them out as potentially racist during the interview might not have been the best way forward...john80 said:In all this it is assumed that Meghan and Harry are mere plebs. If the claim is true that someone queried the babies colour in a manner that is rascist both of them are in a good position to shut that down. If it is a staffer do we really believe that Harry has not got the power to influence that person's propsects. If it was a family member it should have been called out at the time. The whole thing is an embarrassment for all concerned.
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imposter2.0 said:
I tend to agree. Although as far as I'm concerned, the inference can be taken that the comment was made by either his dad, or his brother. I think he mentioned in the interview that he was 'rebuilding' relationships with both of them at the moment - so calling them out as potentially racist during the interview might not have been the best way forward...john80 said:In all this it is assumed that Meghan and Harry are mere plebs. If the claim is true that someone queried the babies colour in a manner that is rascist both of them are in a good position to shut that down. If it is a staffer do we really believe that Harry has not got the power to influence that person's propsects. If it was a family member it should have been called out at the time. The whole thing is an embarrassment for all concerned.
The terms of this law are simple and universal: they state that a white person or institution accused of racism has suffered far more than a black person who has been the victim of racism.
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The current culture of Internet shaming means that in many cases, individuals can suffer greatly from being racist or (if I'm being contentious) being seen to be racist.
Being racist on twitter can see you getting sacked which is disastrous on an individual level. Whereas having one racist joke made about you probably doesn't do extreme harm.
Of course, over time lots of racist abuse is going to be awful for anyone's mental state.
So what's the answer? I don't have a clue.
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Its an opinion but not one I agree with. If you are accused of racism you can suffer quite a bit even if you had no racist intent whatsoever - Danny Baker being a case in point related to the royals.rick_chasey said:imposter2.0 said:
I tend to agree. Although as far as I'm concerned, the inference can be taken that the comment was made by either his dad, or his brother. I think he mentioned in the interview that he was 'rebuilding' relationships with both of them at the moment - so calling them out as potentially racist during the interview might not have been the best way forward...john80 said:In all this it is assumed that Meghan and Harry are mere plebs. If the claim is true that someone queried the babies colour in a manner that is rascist both of them are in a good position to shut that down. If it is a staffer do we really believe that Harry has not got the power to influence that person's propsects. If it was a family member it should have been called out at the time. The whole thing is an embarrassment for all concerned.
The terms of this law are simple and universal: they state that a white person or institution accused of racism has suffered far more than a black person who has been the victim of racism.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]1 -
don't be racist?Jezyboy said:The current culture of Internet shaming means that in many cases, individuals can suffer greatly from being racist or (if I'm being contentious) being seen to be racist.
Being racist on twitter can see you getting sacked which is disastrous on an individual level. Whereas having one racist joke made about you probably doesn't do extreme harm.
Of course, over time lots of racist abuse is going to be awful for anyone's mental state.
So what's the answer? I don't have a clue.We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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I don't think it is at all unusual (if a bit thoughtless), which makes it all the more ridiculous that people are outraged by the suggestion that it happened. Putting aside whether it happened, 'concerns about...' doesn't sound like just curiosity, but who knows what was said. It's also possible one part of the family just misunderstood the other. None of us have any idea.ballysmate said:I'l just put om my asbestos suit for when I get flamed by the usual suspects.
But regarding the incendiary claim that someone wondered how dark skinned the baby would be.
When Mrs BM was pregnant, we, including extended family, wondered which physical characteristics the kids would inherit, who would they take after etc What colour hair, whose nose and all that.
In a mixed race relationship, why is it so odd that people would wonder about which characteristics a baby will inherit? Skin colour being the most obvious one.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Like Danny Baker? Obviously don't be racist but for me he wasn't racist and he lost his job/career over accusations of racism and has to live with the stigma of that. I use that example as it relates to Meghan and Harry.ddraver said:
don't be racist?Jezyboy said:The current culture of Internet shaming means that in many cases, individuals can suffer greatly from being racist or (if I'm being contentious) being seen to be racist.
Being racist on twitter can see you getting sacked which is disastrous on an individual level. Whereas having one racist joke made about you probably doesn't do extreme harm.
Of course, over time lots of racist abuse is going to be awful for anyone's mental state.
So what's the answer? I don't have a clue.
Individual cases have to be taken as such.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]1 -
Bullied her household staff apparently. but I think that's alright for out of touch divas in the states. Par for the course to abuse the Mexican hired helpshirley_basso said:She's a bit of a diva, apparently.
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