Tennis G.O.A.T?
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Medvedev looks the best of the new bread on hard courts, Tsitsipas is best of them on clay, Dominic Thiem seems to have gone off the boil, if he can be classed as new breed at 27 years old. All a step down in class from the big 3.pblakeney said:
Isn't Tsitsipas the favourite of the new breed to break the old guard?seanoconn said:
Not the best version of Nadal last night but wasn’t the best version of Djokovic in last years final. Should go on to win his second french title, Tsitsipas isn’t in the same league.pblakeney said:
Too busy watching it to post on here.seanoconn said:Fabulous game on ITV 4. French open semi finals, 2 of the greatest duking it out at the moment if anyone’s interested.
Nadal was sweating like a **** in the 3rd. Not a complete surprise result from that point.
That said, I possibly need Djokovic to win in order for my prediction of him topping the all time winners to be fulfilled.
Your prediction looks likely 👍Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי0 -
He's also an intelligent player, using his loaf to get on a roll and rise up the pecking order.seanoconn said:
Medvedev looks the best of the new bread on hard courts, Tsitsipas is best of them on clay, Dominic Thiem seems to have gone off the boil, if he can be classed as new breed at 27 years old. All a step down in class from the big 3.pblakeney said:
Isn't Tsitsipas the favourite of the new breed to break the old guard?seanoconn said:
Not the best version of Nadal last night but wasn’t the best version of Djokovic in last years final. Should go on to win his second french title, Tsitsipas isn’t in the same league.pblakeney said:
Too busy watching it to post on here.seanoconn said:Fabulous game on ITV 4. French open semi finals, 2 of the greatest duking it out at the moment if anyone’s interested.
Nadal was sweating like a **** in the 3rd. Not a complete surprise result from that point.
That said, I possibly need Djokovic to win in order for my prediction of him topping the all time winners to be fulfilled.
Your prediction looks likely 👍
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Damn you elbow! Fist waving.
Looking forward to the ladies final today, somethingova vs somethingova. Who says ladies tennis isn’t as exciting as the men’s.Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי0 -
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Talking of Nadal, he's had to pull out of Wimbledon and Tokyo Olympics.0
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He’s probably not bothered about the Olympics, specially with COVID uncertainty and hasn’t won Wimbledon in 10 years, so might not have the confidence or motivation after a hard clay court season for a 35 year old. Havefocuszing723 said:Talking of Nadal, he's had to pull out of Wimbledon and Tokyo Olympics.
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Speaking of which. Federer on the comeback trail out second round on grass in Halle to a very impressive Felix Auger-Aliassime.Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי0
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True about the Olympics. I'm sure Nadal would always be up for Wimbledon though, he can't be a hundred percent.seanoconn said:
He’s probably not bothered about the Olympics, specially with COVID uncertainty and hasn’t won Wimbledon in 10 years, so might not have the confidence or motivation after a hard clay court season for a 35 year old. Havefocuszing723 said:Talking of Nadal, he's had to pull out of Wimbledon and Tokyo Olympics.
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It's the short turnaround time in a condensed Covid calendar that leaves no time for recovery for him. He was injured earlier in the season also i think.focuszing723 said:
True about the Olympics. I'm sure Nadal would always be up for Wimbledon though, he can't be a hundred percent.seanoconn said:
He’s probably not bothered about the Olympics, specially with COVID uncertainty and hasn’t won Wimbledon in 10 years, so might not have the confidence or motivation after a hard clay court season for a 35 year old. Havefocuszing723 said:Talking of Nadal, he's had to pull out of Wimbledon and Tokyo Olympics.
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Murray’s set down at Queens at the moment and struggling, albeit to a top 10 player. Like he says, he’s not hurting anyone by continuing. He might win the odd match here and there with pure competitive instinct but he’s not going to be a threat on the ATP tour anymore.Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי0
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Yeah. In my mind he's done bloody well to win Wimbledon twice and the US Open. I really like the the way he represented Britain in the our 2012 Olympics and won Gold and then again in Rio.
Not that happy with him making a point of voting for Scottish independence and Living in London though.0 -
What is Murray up to? Two sets and three breaks up and manages to lose the third set. Must be glad to have the break for the roof.0
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Surprised no one has...
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Good to see him through.0
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Keep Murray on Centre court and the crowd will get him through another match or two.
Hope I didn’t miss anything exciting in the football.Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי0 -
Good fight back for Murray.
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On paper Denis Shapovalov should win, Murray not looking great and will feel the effects on a 5 setter. Depends how Shapovalov deals with centre court and the partisan crowd, could go either way.mrb123 said:
His next opponent will be a much sterner test. Plus the other bloke got a walkover in his 2nd round match so will be fresh.seanoconn said:Keep Murray on Centre court and the crowd will get him through another match or two.
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Bjorn Borg, obviously.
Proper small head racquets, skill on court rather than all that muscle and power serve blx.0 -
Shapo seems to find a way to lose to people he shouldn’t and beat people he shouldn’t, so I think Murray might be a good chance.seanoconn said:
On paper Denis Shapovalov should win, Murray not looking great and will feel the effects on a 5 setter. Depends how Shapovalov deals with centre court and the partisan crowd, could go either way.mrb123 said:
His next opponent will be a much sterner test. Plus the other bloke got a walkover in his 2nd round match so will be fresh.seanoconn said:Keep Murray on Centre court and the crowd will get him through another match or two.
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Watching the wrong tournament if you want to watch games where the serve doesn't dominate. That's how you win on grass, though lots of players this year suggesting the ground staff have slowed the court down (again...!)darkhairedlord said:Bjorn Borg, obviously.
Proper small head racquets, skill on court rather than all that muscle and power serve blx.0 -
I have limited interest in tennis, but I did see one player serve with a wooden racket at similar speeds to demonstrate that it is not all to do with the racket. That doesn't invalidate your point though because the modern rackets have larger sweet spots, so it is easier to hit it hard.darkhairedlord said:Bjorn Borg, obviously.
Proper small head racquets, skill on court rather than all that muscle and power serve blx.
There's also something about spin and the balls which is a significant factor.0 -
I thought modern amateur rackets did indeed have bigger sweetspots as they can have the strings slacker, but I think for the pros they have them as tight as they can, as they are accurate enough they can focus on pure power.TheBigBean said:
I have limited interest in tennis, but I did see one player serve with a wooden racket at similar speeds to demonstrate that it is not all to do with the racket. That doesn't invalidate your point though because the modern rackets have larger sweet spots, so it is easier to hit it hard.darkhairedlord said:Bjorn Borg, obviously.
Proper small head racquets, skill on court rather than all that muscle and power serve blx.
There's also something about spin and the balls which is a significant factor.
When I was 11 I remember getting a racket with looser strings and yikes, I was hitting fireballs all over the place.0 -
Just to show how up to date I am, it was Mark Philippoussis in 1997, but what I said is true. A wooden racket is very nearly as powerful for a serve as a composite racket. What has changed is the players becoming bigger and stronger, so serving speed has increased.
The two big differences between the rackets are that the size of head which enables more spin and therefore more power, and they are structurally more consistent and stiffer for a given weight, so have larger sweet spots which means more power/consistency on off centre shots when returning the ball (bigger sweet spot).
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I thought that Cori Gauff looked good value at 66/1, she's now 3rd favourite at 10/1.1 -
Good luck to you sir 👍Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי0
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Zverev looking dangerous.Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי0
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This Raducanu kid could be quite good once she goes full time! OK she's lost the first set but both are playing some very good tennis.0
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Looks like she may have had a dodgy gel though!0
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Yeah, good clean striker of the ball. Maybe a bit one dimensional but plenty of potential. Other player is quite similar TBH, just making fewer mistakes.Pross said:This Raducanu kid could be quite good once she goes full time! OK she's lost the first set but both are playing some very good tennis.
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