Hunt Wheels
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What are your thoughts on Mason bikes?MattFalle said:Good points well presented but they aren’t built by Hunt - they are built in same factory as the Chinese jobs off the ‘Bay etc.
They’re just, meh, but at wow prices.
I’d have a set of Kyseriums over a set of Hunts tbh.0 -
My take on the Hunts...
Their aluminium offerings aren't too poor value. If you have a look at the price a wheelbuilder would charge for the same build (Kinlin/Pillar/Novatec or Bitex) the cost will be fairly similar. I'd still go for the handbuilts though for the extra choice of spoke count etc and arguably better build quality.
I'd probably take Hunts over a lot of factory sets though - as they're built from generic parts they're likely to be more easily repairable if something goes wrong.
For carbon wheels, for me the case for Hunts is far weaker. Buying direct from a reputable Chinese company like Farsports or Light Bicycle will likely give you a far better spec for the same or less money.
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Agree with MF if you want off the shelf buy Ksyriums. I'm 98kg and have never broken a spoke or had any other issues on my Archetypes or Ksyrium SL's. OP ring David @ DCR and go 28 spoke front and 32 spoke rear and they will be super sturdy but reasonably light. I have 2 pairs one with Novatec hubs and 1 with Ultegra - faultless and as true today as the day they arrived.
https://dcrwheels.co.uk/products/rims/700c-rims/h-plus-son-archetype/
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Just a little story about workmanship and materials.
Back in the day i had some experience of how carbon fibre tennis rackets were made in a factory. The only difference between a £60 carbon racket and a £200 carbon racket was the team who did the laying up. Materials were the same.0 -
I own quite a few sets of wheels, including a pair of hunts.. Here is my 2p's.
The online ordering is very good. Logistics brilliant. Price good. Customer service brilliant. Very very easy to set up tubeless. Lots of online videos. They look nice. you can pay in installments using Klarna.
They are a very safe bet. I'm sure they aren't as good as some other options, but most of us wouldn't notice the difference, and either don't want to know about spoke nipples, or don't want to talk about them.
Also, I don't think they pretend to do anything other than bring easily sourced bits together. But hey.
I would 100% buy another set.Insert bike here:0 -
If all of Hunt's wheels are made of readily available off the shelf parts why do they claim that their latest wheels are designed in house? I think they may have started out as resellers of Chinese wheels but they have moved on from that now.
This is a statement from their website "Designed by HUNT Product Engineering Manager, Luisa Grappone (MSc Aerospace Engineering)". Maybe they designed a rim just to see what off the shelf rim matches?0 -
I think in Hunt's case "designed" means selecting the parts that are available from the big Chinese factory they use and then getting them to build those wheels.iso2000 said:If all of Hunt's wheels are made of readily available off the shelf parts why do they claim that their latest wheels are designed in house? I think they may have started out as resellers of Chinese wheels but they have moved on from that now.
This is a statement from their website "Designed by HUNT Product Engineering Manager, Luisa Grappone (MSc Aerospace Engineering)". Maybe they designed a rim just to see what off the shelf rim matches?
Maybe as they get bigger they can also advise the factory on the kind of things they want.0 -
Designed as in “we need a hub. Oh, let’s have this one out of the book. We need spokes. Let’s get these. Rim - one of these. Here, i’ve designed a wheel. Let’s get it built in the factory to save costs”iso2000 said:If all of Hunt's wheels are made of readily available off the shelf parts why do they claim that their latest wheels are designed in house? I think they may have started out as resellers of Chinese wheels but they have moved on from that now.
This is a statement from their website "Designed by HUNT Product Engineering Manager, Luisa Grappone (MSc Aerospace Engineering)". Maybe they designed a rim just to see what off the shelf rim matches?
There’s a difference in designing and designing.
Still sellers of Chinese wheels.
A great claim for Luisa. Tbh, it’s probably computer generation. Or just looking at what figures the rim manufacturer pumps out.
Lower your price by £200and just be honest in your marketing fellas..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Exactly as joe saidjoe_totale-2 said:
I think in Hunt's case "designed" means selecting the parts that are available from the big Chinese factory they use and then getting them to build those wheels.iso2000 said:If all of Hunt's wheels are made of readily available off the shelf parts why do they claim that their latest wheels are designed in house? I think they may have started out as resellers of Chinese wheels but they have moved on from that now.
This is a statement from their website "Designed by HUNT Product Engineering Manager, Luisa Grappone (MSc Aerospace Engineering)". Maybe they designed a rim just to see what off the shelf rim matches?
Maybe as they get bigger they can also advise the factory on the kind of things they want..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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or alternately give yourself an epic lockdown task and build your own.
It is honestly a piece of pi ss if daunting first time round. Get a book called wheel building by Roger Musson, it's only available electronically and follow his instructions.
He makes it as simple as possible and you dont kneed to own much more than a spoke wrench. Sure you can get anal about tensions and argue which type of spoke tensiometer is best but actually building is a very straightforward process.
He even has a simple wheel truing stand designs you can bash together in the shed for a few quid.
After youve done it you can bask in a feeling of smugness and more importantly the mysteries of wheel truing will be revealed.
Obv hunt or Malcolm are also good options.. Malcolm might even sell you all the bits you need so you wont even need to do a very basic calculation on spoke length.
EDIT IIRC my first pair i built back when dinosaurs still roamed the earth, bottom brackets were serviced very regularly and cotter pins were the bain of my life, it took a saturday afternoon whilst drinking cheap beer and watching the rugby with the fire lit. they lasted years until the rims had worn away. I'm sure i probably did but i dont remember truing them.
My two penneth, buy a good hub, dont skimp and dont look at 10g saved as neccescarrily a good thing. The dura ace hubs are ace, ignore the fact theyre cup and cone, they just keep going smoothly whatever the conditions. If you do feel inclined to poke about inside them after a year you'll probably find it clean and perfect as the day it left the factory. Ive had less luck with ultegra or lower hubs.
Another good one that never seems to be a problem is DTSwiss, the venerable 240 can be had with disc or rim brake options and changing the freehub body to accommodate a different group-set should you change bikes in the future is as difficult as buying the new style, pulling off the old one and shoving the new one on.
Ive never used them but Hope are apparently brilliant. Chris King very nice but are not maintenance free.
Rims buy a good quality rim. I have always had good luck with DT Swiss spokes.
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I have a genuine question....
Why do Hunts get rated so well?
"A truly great set of carbon wheels at a ridiculously good price. Hunt has nailed it with these hoops, and the crash replacement policy is the icing on the cake"
"The performance of Hunt’s new race wheels is as polished as they look
Buy if, You want a polished set of wheels for racing"
They always seem to rate highly at the same time as saying they are good value.Insert bike here:0 -
Because they get paid to do so and/or its journalistic hubris/hyperbole.
Tbh, have you seen journo's give any bad reviews in thst 10 years about anything? They're even saying £150 tops are good value..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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It is a conspiracy against hard working artisan wheelbuilders.0
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MF had a set of wheels built with Hope hubs.david37 said:or alternately give yourself an epic lockdown task and build your own.
It is honestly a piece of pi ss if daunting first time round. Get a book called wheel building by Roger Musson, it's only available electronically and follow his instructions.
He makes it as simple as possible and you dont kneed to own much more than a spoke wrench. Sure you can get censored about tensions and argue which type of spoke tensiometer is best but actually building is a very straightforward process.
He even has a simple wheel truing stand designs you can bash together in the shed for a few quid.
After youve done it you can bask in a feeling of smugness and more importantly the mysteries of wheel truing will be revealed.
Obv hunt or Malcolm are also good options.. Malcolm might even sell you all the bits you need so you wont even need to do a very basic calculation on spoke length.
EDIT IIRC my first pair i built back when dinosaurs still roamed the earth, bottom brackets were serviced very regularly and cotter pins were the bain of my life, it took a saturday afternoon whilst drinking cheap beer and watching the rugby with the fire lit. they lasted years until the rims had worn away. I'm sure i probably did but i dont remember truing them.
My two penneth, buy a good hub, dont skimp and dont look at 10g saved as neccescarrily a good thing. The dura ace hubs are ace, ignore the fact theyre cup and cone, they just keep going smoothly whatever the conditions. If you do feel inclined to poke about inside them after a year you'll probably find it clean and perfect as the day it left the factory. Ive had less luck with ultegra or lower hubs.
Another good one that never seems to be a problem is DTSwiss, the venerable 240 can be had with disc or rim brake options and changing the freehub body to accommodate a different group-set should you change bikes in the future is as difficult as buying the new style, pulling off the old one and shoving the new one on.
Ive never used them but Hope are apparently brilliant. Chris King very nice but are not maintenance free.
Rims buy a good quality rim. I have always had good luck with DT Swiss spokes.
Utterly lovely. Looked gorgeous, worked perfect, made the most utterly wonderful noise.
If you're going this route, very recommended, unlike Hunts..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I've never even touched a pair, so what do I know, but people rarely slag off purchases that they make and are much more likely to heap praise as confirmation bias.
Tbh. they look perfectly acceptable to me and if I was looking for some new wheels I wouldn't dismiss them, as said you may pay a bit more but that goes towards customer service and crash replacement warranty, amongst other costs.1 -
Top dollar price, budget performce.
Nah.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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No really it's not and you know that nobody is saying that. The advice from most people on this thread has been that Hunt are probably ok but that you can get the same wheels for quite a bit (maybe hundreds of £s) less from Farsports or similar. If you don't like the idea of importing them via an online retailer for whatever reason then there are various UK wheelbuilders who for roughly the same outlay can make you a better wheelset with more premium/better/stronger/harder wearing components that are specific to your exact requirements. If people still want the Hunts they can knock themselves out as far as I'm concerned. What is your answer to the OP? Somebody asked the forum for advice, we're giving him advice. He's got some options now.First.Aspect said:It is a conspiracy against hard working artisan wheelbuilders.
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Farssports, or closer to home with just good back up, Wiggle, CRC, Merlin, Planet X ..........
Its a bit like stems and handlebars with logos all them - I don't understand why people would..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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What car do you drive?MattFalle said:Farssports, or closer to home with just good back up, Wiggle, CRC, Merlin, Planet X ..........
Its a bit like stems and handlebars with logos all them - I don't understand why people would.0 -
A friend of mine rides hunt carbons (maybe called something like 50mm aero - I can't remember?) -- He seems happy with them, they cost about £600 and he's had them a couple of years.
To be honest, at the speeds he rides (25-30kph) any aero benefit from a slightly deeper rim is going to be small.... I thought they looked pretty nice for what they are; Prime are probably cheaper and much the same thing.
I would recommend the DT Swiss 1600, but that's because I've just ordered some for my commuter, which previously had handbuilt 105/open pros (£350 inc P&P) - the rear wheel failed; 3 spokes snapped when going 50kph downhill - yes, it was a scary moment because it was one loud bang then bump,bump,bump,bump!!!! I won't name the wheelbuilder but it's one that gets loads of recommendations on forums.... Needless to say I wasn't impressed as the wheels weren't even 2 years old and had been used less than 10,000kms! The front wheel of that same wheelset failed after about 6months when I had a small crash...
2x snapped rear spokes....
1x very buckled front wheel after a small crash at 10kph (a parked cars passenger decided to open the car door right in front of me)....
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Ask your wife. She seems to like going in it.First.Aspect said:
What car do you drive?MattFalle said:Farssports, or closer to home with just good back up, Wiggle, CRC, Merlin, Planet X ..........
Its a bit like stems and handlebars with logos all them - I don't understand why people would..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I have never seen spokes snapped there only at the hub.junglist_matty said:A friend of mine rides hunt carbons (maybe called something like 50mm aero - I can't remember?) -- He seems happy with them, they cost about £600 and he's had them a couple of years.
To be honest, at the speeds he rides (25-30kph) any aero benefit from a slightly deeper rim is going to be small.... I thought they looked pretty nice for what they are; Prime are probably cheaper and much the same thing.
I would recommend the DT Swiss 1600, but that's because I've just ordered some for my commuter, which previously had handbuilt 105/open pros (£350 inc P&P) - the rear wheel failed; 3 spokes snapped when going 50kph downhill - yes, it was a scary moment because it was one loud bang then bump,bump,bump,bump!!!! I won't name the wheelbuilder but it's one that gets loads of recommendations on forums.... Needless to say I wasn't impressed as the wheels weren't even 2 years old and had been used less than 10,000kms! The front wheel of that same wheelset failed after about 6months when I had a small crash...
2x snapped rear spokes....
1x very buckled front wheel after a small crash at 10kph (a parked cars passenger decided to open the car door right in front of me)....0 -
Wild guess judging from the build... Did his first name start with "H"?junglist_matty said:A friend of mine rides hunt carbons (maybe called something like 50mm aero - I can't remember?) -- He seems happy with them, they cost about £600 and he's had them a couple of years.
To be honest, at the speeds he rides (25-30kph) any aero benefit from a slightly deeper rim is going to be small.... I thought they looked pretty nice for what they are; Prime are probably cheaper and much the same thing.
I would recommend the DT Swiss 1600, but that's because I've just ordered some for my commuter, which previously had handbuilt 105/open pros (£350 inc P&P) - the rear wheel failed; 3 spokes snapped when going 50kph downhill - yes, it was a scary moment because it was one loud bang then bump,bump,bump,bump!!!! I won't name the wheelbuilder but it's one that gets loads of recommendations on forums.... Needless to say I wasn't impressed as the wheels weren't even 2 years old and had been used less than 10,000kms! The front wheel of that same wheelset failed after about 6months when I had a small crash...
2x snapped rear spokes....
1x very buckled front wheel after a small crash at 10kph (a parked cars passenger decided to open the car door right in front of me)....0 -
Hope it doesn't end "unt"!mrb123 said:
Wild guess judging from the build... Did his first name start with "H"?junglist_matty said:A friend of mine rides hunt carbons (maybe called something like 50mm aero - I can't remember?) -- He seems happy with them, they cost about £600 and he's had them a couple of years.
To be honest, at the speeds he rides (25-30kph) any aero benefit from a slightly deeper rim is going to be small.... I thought they looked pretty nice for what they are; Prime are probably cheaper and much the same thing.
I would recommend the DT Swiss 1600, but that's because I've just ordered some for my commuter, which previously had handbuilt 105/open pros (£350 inc P&P) - the rear wheel failed; 3 spokes snapped when going 50kph downhill - yes, it was a scary moment because it was one loud bang then bump,bump,bump,bump!!!! I won't name the wheelbuilder but it's one that gets loads of recommendations on forums.... Needless to say I wasn't impressed as the wheels weren't even 2 years old and had been used less than 10,000kms! The front wheel of that same wheelset failed after about 6months when I had a small crash...
2x snapped rear spokes....
1x very buckled front wheel after a small crash at 10kph (a parked cars passenger decided to open the car door right in front of me)....- Genesis Croix de Fer
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It failed because of a crash, I don't think the builder can be blamed for that!junglist_matty said:The front wheel of that same wheelset failed after about 6months when I had a small crash...
1x very buckled front wheel after a small crash at 10kph (a parked cars passenger decided to open the car door right in front of me)....
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it'll be fine - will T Cut out.
you're just being a drama llama.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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You get the point though I'm sure. People buy an Audi A3 instead of the equivalent Skoda, etc. Brand, in this case some simple inoffensive branding, matters and even the great MF isn't immune.MattFalle said:
Ask your wife. She seems to like going in it.First.Aspect said:
What car do you drive?MattFalle said:Farssports, or closer to home with just good back up, Wiggle, CRC, Merlin, Planet X ..........
Its a bit like stems and handlebars with logos all them - I don't understand why people would.
A Merc, from the bragging I most recently recall.0 -
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The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Were you telling porkies then Matthew?MattFalle said:No, you're wrong. Very wrong. The wrongest.
Couldn't be further from the truth tbh.
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.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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