Hour record attempt
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It would be interesting to list all the riders who had more than one shot at the Hour record, Vs those who should have had a shot, but didn't... then you'd realise how difficult it is to get a shot... I start:
Boardman/Obree/Moser and now Dowsett
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Armstrong/Cancellara/T.Martin/Zulle/Olano/Ullrich/Jalabert/Rogers/Doumulin/Millar/Zabriskie/Kiryenka/Honchar... among othersleft the forum March 20230 -
Don't know...RichN95. said:Didn't Millar have some sort of aborted attempt (pre-reboot) or am I imagining that ?
I think we could in theory add Michael Hutchinson to the list of two timers...
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This hour record talk makes me wonder if Ineos might be tempted to try something with Ganna similar to the Kipchoge sub 2 hour marathon.
60km seems to be an obvious mark to aim for. Presumably even for him that might be too difficult under the current UCI regulations.
The 2 hour marathon wasn't compliant with official world record rules though so maybe they could try it with a bike and clothing that is non-UCI compliant and just aim for the ultimate solo hour distance.0 -
and the Fugeesugo.santalucia said:
Don't know...RichN95. said:Didn't Millar have some sort of aborted attempt (pre-reboot) or am I imagining that ?
I think we could in theory add Michael Hutchinson to the list of two timers...0 -
60 km is impossible for this generation of riders, the move from 55 to 60 km/h is enormous in terms of power required... maybe 56 is possible... but it's not an inspiring numbermrb123 said:This hour record talk makes me wonder if Ineos might be tempted to try something with Ganna similar to the Kipchoge sub 2 hour marathon.
60km seems to be an obvious mark to aim for. Presumably even for him that might be too difficult under the current UCI regulations.
The 2 hour marathon wasn't compliant with official world record rules though so maybe they could try it with a bike and clothing that is non-UCI compliant and just aim for the ultimate solo hour distance.left the forum March 20230 -
I think Boardman already did over 56 under the old rules. That was over 20 years ago so presumably there's scope for some improvement with the latest tech. Maybe not enough to get to 60km though!ugo.santalucia said:
60 km is impossible for this generation of riders, the move from 55 to 60 km/h is enormous in terms of power required... maybe 56 is possible... but it's not an inspiring numbermrb123 said:This hour record talk makes me wonder if Ineos might be tempted to try something with Ganna similar to the Kipchoge sub 2 hour marathon.
60km seems to be an obvious mark to aim for. Presumably even for him that might be too difficult under the current UCI regulations.
The 2 hour marathon wasn't compliant with official world record rules though so maybe they could try it with a bike and clothing that is non-UCI compliant and just aim for the ultimate solo hour distance.0 -
Certainly not enough to 60 km/h... I think 56 to 57 is probably the limit and for that you need the gods to assist you. One of the issue with the Hour that we seem to forget is that you set a date without knowing what the air pressure will be on the day, what temperature the velodrome will be on the day and these variable do matter significantly... and typically you only have one shot over a whole career... Wiggins wasn't particularly lucky with air pressure, for instancemrb123 said:
I think Boardman already did over 56 under the old rules. That was over 20 years ago so presumably there's scope for some improvement with the latest tech. Maybe not enough to get to 60km though!ugo.santalucia said:
60 km is impossible for this generation of riders, the move from 55 to 60 km/h is enormous in terms of power required... maybe 56 is possible... but it's not an inspiring numbermrb123 said:This hour record talk makes me wonder if Ineos might be tempted to try something with Ganna similar to the Kipchoge sub 2 hour marathon.
60km seems to be an obvious mark to aim for. Presumably even for him that might be too difficult under the current UCI regulations.
The 2 hour marathon wasn't compliant with official world record rules though so maybe they could try it with a bike and clothing that is non-UCI compliant and just aim for the ultimate solo hour distance.left the forum March 20230 -
Something for those who think avoiding Covid completely is impossible: does anyone really think that the Queen has a chance in a million to get Covid? And that bearing in mind the army of people who live around her, which Joe Bloggs doesn't have to contend with...
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ugo.santalucia said:
Something for those who think avoiding Covid completely is impossible: does anyone really think that the Queen has a chance in a million to get Covid? And that bearing in mind the army of people who live around her, which Joe Bloggs doesn't have to contend with...
It's all about the planning, folks, all about planning things right
The Queen met with Prince Charles and Boris Johnson in March, just before their diagnosis, so there is a chance that she has already had it, and it was kept quiet, as Prince William's was.
One of her aides also tested positive in March.0 -
Can lizards catch covid?3
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But that was March... getting Covid in March was excusable, nobody really knew what to do back then... getting it now carries quite a lot of responsibility, unless you work in Care or NHS or are a school teacher or other high risk category...joe2019 said:
One of her aides also tested positive in March.
Which brings back to Dowsett...
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That's all new to me... especially now that everyone wears masks, there is hand sanitiser everywhere... where did you read this?RichN95. said:The most common place that people catch it is the supermarket
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Found it:
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-supermarkets-most-common-exposure-setting-for-catching-coronavirus-in-england-latest-data-shows-12136418
Supermarket - 18.3%
Secondary school - 12.7%
Primary school - 10.1%
Hospital - 3.6%
Care home - 2.8%
College - 2.4%
Warehouse - 2.2%
Nursery preschool - 1.8%
Pub or bar - 1.6%
Hospitality - 1.5%
University - 1.4%
Manufacture engineering - 1.4%
Household fewer than five - 1.2%
General practice - 1.1%
Gym - 1.1%
Restaurant or cafe - 1.0%0 -
Hardly credible... it was probably a survey done during lockdown, when the hospitality sector was shut and supermarkets were the only hangoutsjoe2019 said:Found it:
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-supermarkets-most-common-exposure-setting-for-catching-coronavirus-in-england-latest-data-shows-12136418
Supermarket - 18.3%
Secondary school - 12.7%
Primary school - 10.1%
Hospital - 3.6%
Care home - 2.8%
College - 2.4%
Warehouse - 2.2%
Nursery preschool - 1.8%
Pub or bar - 1.6%
Hospitality - 1.5%
University - 1.4%
Manufacture engineering - 1.4%
Household fewer than five - 1.2%
General practice - 1.1%
Gym - 1.1%
Restaurant or cafe - 1.0%left the forum March 20230 -
most common places visited before positive testjoe2019 said:Found it:
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-supermarkets-most-common-exposure-setting-for-catching-coronavirus-in-england-latest-data-shows-12136418
Supermarket - 18.3%
Secondary school - 12.7%
Primary school - 10.1%
Hospital - 3.6%
Care home - 2.8%
College - 2.4%
Warehouse - 2.2%
Nursery preschool - 1.8%
Pub or bar - 1.6%
Hospitality - 1.5%
University - 1.4%
Manufacture engineering - 1.4%
Household fewer than five - 1.2%
General practice - 1.1%
Gym - 1.1%
Restaurant or cafe - 1.0%
Before this misuse of statistics goes any further here is the official explanation
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RichN95. said:
The most common place that people catch it is the supermarket
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Makes a lot more senseleft the forum March 20230
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'Politicians use statistics like a drunk man uses a lamppost: not for illumination but to support their standing'It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.0
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The interview I read with him he sounded gutted as he had , unintentionally, let his team mates down. As with Dowsett, I have much sympathy.ugo.santalucia said:
Euro track Champs... now that's an important race... a once in a lifetime opportunity to what? To wear the rainbow jersey and show off a bit?r0bh said:
Errr Ganna's Covid positive meant he couldn't race at the Euro Track Champs this weekend just gone, so his season clearly hadn't endedshirley_basso said:
Ugo answered this for me.r0bh said:
Yet with the same amount of evidence (i.e. none) you were willing to give Ganna the benefit of the doubt ¯\_(ツ)_/¯shirley_basso said:
I did say I had zero detail but was not willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.andyp said:Are you Tory MP? Because you seem to make decisions based on no or little evidence.
Your decision is also made with the same amount of evidence but yours is favourable.
Ganna is bad luck but excusable given his season as ended and was likely celebrating.
He probably didn't care enough to self isolate, can you blame him?
Once you catch it despite avoiding it all you can, you’ll understand.2020/2021/2022 Metric Century Challenge Winner0 -
I was raised with the idea that there is no tooth fairy, Santa Claus and you are in charge of your own luck... If I get it (I really hope I don't) I'll only have myself to blame.carbonclem said:
The interview I read with him he sounded gutted as he had , unintentionally, let his team mates down. As with Dowsett, I have much sympathy.ugo.santalucia said:
Euro track Champs... now that's an important race... a once in a lifetime opportunity to what? To wear the rainbow jersey and show off a bit?r0bh said:
Errr Ganna's Covid positive meant he couldn't race at the Euro Track Champs this weekend just gone, so his season clearly hadn't endedshirley_basso said:
Ugo answered this for me.r0bh said:
Yet with the same amount of evidence (i.e. none) you were willing to give Ganna the benefit of the doubt ¯\_(ツ)_/¯shirley_basso said:
I did say I had zero detail but was not willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.andyp said:Are you Tory MP? Because you seem to make decisions based on no or little evidence.
Your decision is also made with the same amount of evidence but yours is favourable.
Ganna is bad luck but excusable given his season as ended and was likely celebrating.
He probably didn't care enough to self isolate, can you blame him?
Once you catch it despite avoiding it all you can, you’ll understand.left the forum March 20230 -
Nah, blame the Chinese!ugo.santalucia said:
I was raised with the idea that there is no tooth fairy, Santa Claus and you are in charge of your own luck... If I get it (I really hope I don't) I'll only have myself to blame.carbonclem said:
The interview I read with him he sounded gutted as he had , unintentionally, let his team mates down. As with Dowsett, I have much sympathy.ugo.santalucia said:
Euro track Champs... now that's an important race... a once in a lifetime opportunity to what? To wear the rainbow jersey and show off a bit?r0bh said:
Errr Ganna's Covid positive meant he couldn't race at the Euro Track Champs this weekend just gone, so his season clearly hadn't endedshirley_basso said:
Ugo answered this for me.r0bh said:
Yet with the same amount of evidence (i.e. none) you were willing to give Ganna the benefit of the doubt ¯\_(ツ)_/¯shirley_basso said:
I did say I had zero detail but was not willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.andyp said:Are you Tory MP? Because you seem to make decisions based on no or little evidence.
Your decision is also made with the same amount of evidence but yours is favourable.
Ganna is bad luck but excusable given his season as ended and was likely celebrating.
He probably didn't care enough to self isolate, can you blame him?
Once you catch it despite avoiding it all you can, you’ll understand.0 -
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you'd think on a point to point road course, with a tailwind, he'd be able to hit it.mrb123 said:This hour record talk makes me wonder if Ineos might be tempted to try something with Ganna similar to the Kipchoge sub 2 hour marathon.
60km seems to be an obvious mark to aim for. Presumably even for him that might be too difficult under the current UCI regulations.
The 2 hour marathon wasn't compliant with official world record rules though so maybe they could try it with a bike and clothing that is non-UCI compliant and just aim for the ultimate solo hour distance.
The guy who recently did a sub 3 hour 100 miler was obv good but no where near Ganna power levels.0 -
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