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  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,911
    I suppose the question is, was Pogacar underpar in the Tour because he did MSR, Flanders and all of those classics races, or because he crashed and was injured in the run up to the Tour?
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 6,975
    The latter IMHO.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,143
    Of course it was the latter. He was off his bike for a month.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,143
    Vingegaard did as many race days before the end of April as Pogacar. They may have been at a lower level, although they both did Paris-Nice, but I don't think Pogacar's spring program had any impact on his Tour prep, or lack of.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,411
    Sorry, think I sent this off track (or helped to). Pog v Vingegaard seems a strange topic for an Ineos thread....
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  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 11,610

    Sorry, think I sent this off track (or helped to). Pog v Vingegaard seems a strange topic for an Ineos thread....

    Lol, I have been confused a couple of times wondering if I had mis clicked :D
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,411
    Geraint Thomas Cycling Club podcast dropping a teaser about signing today

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  • roscoe
    roscoe Posts: 465
    Confirmed on the Grenadiers You Tube channel.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,401
    Waiting on Luke now...
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  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 11,610
    2 years takes him through until he's 39.5 years old - I imagine he will ready to hang up his wheels at that point.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,411
    2 years is long enough to have a crack at the Giro again, then start putting on weight for the cobbles in '25..... :D
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  • rick_chasey
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    daniel_b said:

    2 years takes him through until he's 39.5 years old - I imagine he will ready to hang up his wheels at that point.

    I suspect it's a heavily performance related contract but why wouldn't you, if he'd almost won the Giro?
  • daniel_b said:

    2 years takes him through until he's 39.5 years old - I imagine he will ready to hang up his wheels at that point.

    2 years? He won't have any pride left by then.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,401
    Listened to the pod and he seems pretty happy with the whole thing. I suspect he's not on tour contender money but it seems like he's still on living in Monaco money...
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  • mididoctors
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    m.r.m. said:

    roscoe said:

    Pog is rumoured to be considering the Giro/Tour double.

    Seems a sure fire way to lose the Tour.
    Put it this way, he could ride the Giro and Tour and win the Giro and get on the podium in France, or he could skip the Giro and get on the podium in France.

    ;)

    Most likely
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  • roscoe
    roscoe Posts: 465
    Rodriguez signs on for another 3 years! Happy with that.
  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,212
    roscoe said:

    Rodriguez signs on for another 3 years! Happy with that.

    4 years
  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,043
    daniel_b said:



    I can't think of anyone, if Thomas is not riding the Tour, as a potential top 10 rider, Pidcock as an outside shot I guess, but I really don't see that as being his bag, and presumably he'd want to/need to keep a little something in reserve for the MTB race.

    an MTB stage in the TdF, now that is a good idea.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
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    r0bh said:

    roscoe said:

    Rodriguez signs on for another 3 years! Happy with that.

    4 years

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  • roscoe
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    r0bh said:

    roscoe said:

    Rodriguez signs on for another 3 years! Happy with that.

    4 years
    Of course, end of 2027 is 4 years. Silly me
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 11,610
    Andrew August follows Sheffield to the team.

    Bit of CX with Pidders perhaps?
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  • RichN95.
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    daniel_b said:

    Andrew August follows Sheffield to the team.

    They come from the same place. The August family bike shop used to sponsor Sheffield as a junior.
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  • mooro
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    daniel_b said:

    2 years takes him through until he's 39.5 years old - I imagine he will ready to hang up his wheels at that point.

    I suspect it's a heavily performance related contract but why wouldn't you, if he'd almost won the Giro?
    He says on his pod that it was originally one year, he asked for two and got it quickly so I assume it’s not a huge basic.
  • daniel_b
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    edited October 2023
    Oscar R now on the way too from Movistar.
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  • daniel_b said:

    Oscar R now on the way too from Movistar.

    Wow, they have actually signed someone, even if it’s just another water boy.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,401
    Worth catching Luke Rowe on the recent Besenwagon Podcast (the interview is in English). It's a really good interview because the hosts don't have to bother with the normal British "so, what is the tour de france" questions and aren't journos looking for a scoop so it's just a very good chat.

    He lets us know that he's signed for a firmly final 2 years but does not say who for (although, I can't believe it's not Ineos)
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  • huret
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    And still they haven't formed a Women's team. I thought in the past the bahaviour of Sutton would have been the reason, but he's been long gone.
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  • RichN95.
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    huret said:

    And still they haven't formed a Women's team. I thought in the past the bahaviour of Sutton would have been the reason, but he's been long gone.


    I just one person who said their should be a women's team actually went Sky or Ineos with a plan to start one, they'd be a women's team. But they haven't. They've just demanded that people who aren't interested do it for them.
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  • daniel_b
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    De Plus extends for 3 years taking him to the end of 2026.
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  • RichN95. said:

    huret said:

    And still they haven't formed a Women's team. I thought in the past the bahaviour of Sutton would have been the reason, but he's been long gone.


    I just one person who said their should be a women's team actually went Sky or Ineos with a plan to start one, they'd be a women's team. But they haven't. They've just demanded that people who aren't interested do it for them.
    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/feb/06/cycling-womens-team-sky-proposal-rejected-lizzie-deignan-fran-millar-team-ineos