S*** small races - Post Lockdown 2020

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  • Well, it ain't over yet, as today's final stage has a familiar look to it.


    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    ddraver said:

    Pross said:

    ddraver said:

    ^^^^^

    In other countries MTB and CX are not seen as "lower" events.

    Broaden your Anglo-centric horizons...

    I think that's a stretch, they may be more popular in other countries but in any cycling nation I would suggest World Tour road racing is king by a long way and I suspect that is reflected in the salaries of top riders. Anglo centric would put track cycling up with road racing.
    Well... Pidcock and MvdP clearly disagree.

    MvdP currently values XCO world and Olympic gold above Paris Roubaix for example...
    I know, I said in my first post on the subject that I understand it from their point of view but as a cycling fan it's disappointing to not have all the best of a promising generation racing each of regularly on the road.

    It would have been disappointing if Nadal had opted to spend a large part of his season playing squash and badminton rather than going up against Federer even if he was the best squash and badminton player and was winning world and Olympic titles.
  • Well, it ain't over yet, as today's final stage has a familiar look to it.


    They don't f*** about in the Baby Giro, do they?
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    RichN95. said:

    ddraver said:



    MvdP currently values XCO world and Olympic gold above Paris Roubaix for example...

    At the moment. There was a time when Geraint Thomas valued Olympic gold first too.

    And how is Stuart O'Grady remembered? As a Paris-Roubaix winner or as........ let's face it you didn't even know he has a Olympic Gold did you?
    In cycling circles perhaps.

    With the UK layperson I think that an Olympic gold is far, far more meaningful than Paris Roubaix (simply because most laypeople probably haven't even heard of Paris Roubaix). Probably not far off winning the Tour.

    Having an Olympic gold medal has much more mainstream impact in the UK than pretty much any other cycling achievement, like it or not. Tour, perhaps Worlds above (not that many people watch the Worlds, but saying someone is "world champion" has some weight).
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Pidcock took the Baby Giro and was interviewed afterwards on the ITV Tour coverage. He said he'll probably focus on the road in 2 years which I guess ties in with targeting the Olympic MTB next year. Said he's just enjoying riding his bike which is obviously important but seems to realise he has to concentrate on the road sooner rather than later.
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    Pross said:

    Pidcock took the Baby Giro and was interviewed afterwards on the ITV Tour coverage. He said he'll probably focus on the road in 2 years which I guess ties in with targeting the Olympic MTB next year. Said he's just enjoying riding his bike which is obviously important but seems to realise he has to concentrate on the road sooner rather than later.

    There's a really good profile of Pidcock on YouTube somewhere called something like 'joining the Elite'.
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    Caught the spoiler on GCN that he'd won the GC but didn't realise he'd won the stage as well. He totally dominated that Baby Giro.

    Another awesome ride from Thomas Gloag again, finishing 7th. I know next to nothing about him but Pidcock was down to 2 teammates and this kid appears to have really stepped up.
  • Thought he came across really well on the ITV coverage.

    Also pleased ITV were so keen to get him on. It shows how much the coverage has changed in the last decade or so from trying to endlessly explain the basics for people who hadn't seen it before, to covering news from the baby Giro. It really does assume a lot more of the audience now, and the interesting thing is that they've not had to change the team to do it - just give them their heads and the confidence to do it.
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249

    Thought he came across really well on the ITV coverage.

    Also pleased ITV were so keen to get him on. It shows how much the coverage has changed in the last decade or so from trying to endlessly explain the basics for people who hadn't seen it before, to covering news from the baby Giro. It really does assume a lot more of the audience now, and the interesting thing is that they've not had to change the team to do it - just give them their heads and the confidence to do it.

    That's good to hear. Sadly, I generally don't get to see the ITV coverage. Hooking my local bar up with GCN this year was a major achievement and I don't want to over-complicate matters. I will try and take a look on the ITV catch-up service tomorrow.
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    The same guy has put up the last two stages on YouTube. Pidcock is a genuine talent. Gloag looks like someone to keep an eye on.
  • DeadCalm said:

    The same guy has put up the last two stages on YouTube. Pidcock is a genuine talent. Gloag looks like someone to keep an eye on.

    I have found 10 minutes of the final stage on YouTube, but not the full 40 minutes highlights package.
    That I found here:

    https://tiz-cycling.io/videos/giro-ciclistico-ditalia-2020-stage-8-full-stage-u23italian/?tape=2
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Cheers for the vids.
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  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249

    DeadCalm said:

    The same guy has put up the last two stages on YouTube. Pidcock is a genuine talent. Gloag looks like someone to keep an eye on.

    I have found 10 minutes of the final stage on YouTube, but not the full 40 minutes highlights package.
    That I found here:

    https://tiz-cycling.io/videos/giro-ciclistico-ditalia-2020-stage-8-full-stage-u23italian/?tape=2
    Brilliant. Thank you.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    Pidcock wins the stage solo and extends his lead, Gloag comes in fourth.
  • andyp said:

    Pidcock wins the stage solo and extends his lead, Gloag comes in fourth.

    Moderation queue strikes again?
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    I suspect it doesn't like the name.
  • I suspect it doesn't like the name.

    The Scunthorpe problem
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549

    andyp said:

    Pidcock wins the stage solo and extends his lead, Gloag comes in fourth.

    Moderation queue strikes again?
    It does. Posted that on Friday, obviously.
  • Another live first starting today on GCN/Eurosport Player: The Skoda Tour of Luxembourg.
    A couple of hours scheduled each day from around the 11-15-11-30am mark, so an early finish.

    No prologue this year.











    Top competitors

    GILBERT Philippe
    CAVENDISH Mark
    DEGENKOLB John
    ULISSI Diego
    DÉMARE Arnaud
    GALLOPIN Tony
    WELLENS Tim
    BAKELANTS Jan
    BOLE Grega
    PLANCKAERT Baptiste
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249

    Another live first starting today on GCN/Eurosport Player: The Skoda Tour of Luxembourg.
    A couple of hours scheduled each day from around the 11-15-11-30am mark, so an early finish.

    No prologue this year.











    Top competitors

    GILBERT Philippe
    CAVENDISH Mark
    DEGENKOLB John
    ULISSI Diego
    DÉMARE Arnaud
    GALLOPIN Tony
    WELLENS Tim
    BAKELANTS Jan
    BOLE Grega
    PLANCKAERT Baptiste

    Anyone else unable to view the highlights on GCN?
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    edited September 2020
    I am watching the whole live and uninterrupted coverage as I type, with no problems.
    But that's on the Eurosport player.
    Good race.

    Jens Voigt's pick to take today's Tour stage on Velonews is currently going solo. :D
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    edited September 2020

    I am watching the whole live and uninterrupted coverage as I type, with no problems.
    But that's on the Eurosport player.
    Good race.

    Jens Voigt's pick to take today's Tour stage on Velonews is currently going solo. :D

    I just get the GCN splash screen. :(

    I've been trying on the web version without success. Just tried on my phone and it works.
  • DeadCalm said:

    I am watching the whole live and uninterrupted coverage as I type, with no problems.
    But that's on the Eurosport player.
    Good race.

    Jens Voigt's pick to take today's Tour stage on Velonews is currently going solo. :D

    I just get the GCN splash screen. :(
    Here you go. The whole live stage coverage:

    https://tiz-cycling.io/videos/tour-de-luxembourg-2020-stage-1-full-stage/
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249

    DeadCalm said:

    I am watching the whole live and uninterrupted coverage as I type, with no problems.
    But that's on the Eurosport player.
    Good race.

    Jens Voigt's pick to take today's Tour stage on Velonews is currently going solo. :D

    I just get the GCN splash screen. :(
    Here you go. The whole live stage coverage:

    https://tiz-cycling.io/videos/tour-de-luxembourg-2020-stage-1-full-stage/
    Thanks. This works on my computer which I can show on my telly whereas the phone I can't.
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    Nice to see Degenkolb take a win after his various travails.
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    edited September 2020

    I suspect it doesn't like the name.

    The Scunthorpe problem

    I suspect it doesn't like the name.

    The Scunthorpe problem
    Well, let's test that theory out.

    He (Tom Pidcock) has been selected to lead the GB team at the Worlds Road Race.

    Edit: post appeared immediately so doesn't seem to be the case.
  • DeadCalm said:

    I suspect it doesn't like the name.

    The Scunthorpe problem

    I suspect it doesn't like the name.

    The Scunthorpe problem
    Well, let's test that theory out.

    He (Tom Pidcock) has been selected to lead the GB team at the Worlds Road Race.

    Edit: post appeared immediately so doesn't seem to be the case.
    I think it's triggered if you edit too many times. Might be a spam filter rather than a sweary filter.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Ethan Hayter got his first pro win today winning the Giro Dell'Appennino a race with some big names as past winners.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    RichN95. said:

    Ethan Hayter got his first pro win today winning the Giro Dell'Appennino a race with some big names as past winners.

    Replacement for Dunbar in the Giro squad?