2021 Transfer rumours and facts

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  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    If he ends up at Ineos everyone will lose their sh1t
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 12,035
    edited January 2021
    Shocker.

    Jumbo, Quickstep or ISUN are my punts - in that order.

    EDIT: Ineos not a bad shout though, with DB's new love of panache etc
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  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632
    I thought INEOS as well, they could easily outbid anyone and buy him out of his current contract with loose change. Would be a decent long term successor to Kwiatkowski.
    According to PCS they already have 31 riders for 2021 though.
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    Trek, maybe? Cancellara manages him.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632
    salsiccia1 said:

    Trek, maybe? Cancellara manages him.

    was wondering about that - you'd think they might have a few € spare after off-loading Porte.
  • neonriver
    neonriver Posts: 228
    yorkshireraw said:

    I thought INEOS as well, they could easily outbid anyone and buy him out of his current contract with loose change. Would be a decent long term successor to Kwiatkowski.
    According to PCS they already have 31 riders for 2021 though.

    Ineos website has 30 riders for the coming season

  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    Crikey. That’s a shock.
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632
    neonriver said:

    yorkshireraw said:

    I thought INEOS as well, they could easily outbid anyone and buy him out of his current contract with loose change. Would be a decent long term successor to Kwiatkowski.
    According to PCS they already have 31 riders for 2021 though.

    Ineos website has 30 riders for the coming season

    add Pidcock from 1/3/21.

    Thought WT teams were restricted to 30 riders (unless that's been relaxed due to Covid etc), unless Moscon or someone else departs before then.
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,486
    Is there currently a more desirable free agent than Hirshi?

    Probably only Pogacar, Alaphilippe, MvdP and WVA depending on their contracts (every young GC contender of course).
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    salsiccia1 said:

    Trek, maybe? Cancellara manages him.


    Trek have denied it's them according to Ciro at Gazzetta
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    yorkshireraw said:

    neonriver said:

    yorkshireraw said:

    I thought INEOS as well, they could easily outbid anyone and buy him out of his current contract with loose change. Would be a decent long term successor to Kwiatkowski.
    According to PCS they already have 31 riders for 2021 though.

    Ineos website has 30 riders for the coming season

    add Pidcock from 1/3/21.

    Thought WT teams were restricted to 30 riders (unless that's been relaxed due to Covid etc), unless Moscon or someone else departs before then.

    32 allowed for 2021, 31 for 2022, then back to 30 for 2023
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  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,620
    edited January 2021
    m.r.m. said:

    Is there currently a more desirable free agent than Hirshi?

    Probably only Pogacar, Alaphilippe, MvdP and WVA depending on their contracts (every young GC contender of course).

    I'd sign hirschi over any of them. I re watched his long break stage from the tour over the weekend. The one that Roglic won.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    edited January 2021
    I think he'll be going to AG2R. They have money to spend and Cancellara is connected with BMC these days.
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  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,620
    I can't really see him at anywhere other than Ineos. They have the money, they'd surely want him and I reckon he's the sort of person who'd want to ride for them.
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  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    UAE according to Wielerflits.
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • carbonclem
    carbonclem Posts: 1,798
    edited January 2021
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  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,620
    gweeds said:

    UAE according to Wielerflits.

    Inrng has re tweeted it, which is good enough for me. It's a shame that one team will have the best gt rider and the best 1 day rider in 2021
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  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,620
    ... And you'll still never see them riding on the front.
    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Too good to be riding for someone else
    _
  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632
    rick_chasey said:

    Too good to be riding for someone else

    agreed.

    Ref team numbers I read elsewhere that if Ineos want to have 32 riders for 2021 the final one needs to be another neo-pro apparently.
  • amrushton
    amrushton Posts: 1,313
    edited January 2021
    If there is nothing untoward then someone with a big budget like UAE or Ineos. Surprised he couldnt stay another year. UAE got rid of Aru so 2 million euros free there and Peiper the DS can probdoa lot with a rider of Hirschi's quality. Also Ulissisi has a heart issue so someone like Hirschi gives another card to play.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    yorkshireraw said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Too good to be riding for someone else

    agreed.

    Ref team numbers I read elsewhere that if Ineos want to have 32 riders for 2021 the final one needs to be another neo-pro apparently.

    I've seen that as well. I'm fairly sure it's wrong. I doubt he'll be going to Ineos though
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  • 50x11
    50x11 Posts: 408
    gsk82 said:

    gweeds said:

    UAE according to Wielerflits.

    Inrng has re tweeted it, which is good enough for me. It's a shame that one team will have the best gt rider and the best 1 day rider in 2021
    This is such a stretch, obv you like him, but he's not even in the top 5 best one day riders.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    edited January 2021
    50x11 said:

    gsk82 said:

    gweeds said:

    UAE according to Wielerflits.

    Inrng has re tweeted it, which is good enough for me. It's a shame that one team will have the best gt rider and the best 1 day rider in 2021
    This is such a stretch, obv you like him, but he's not even in the top 5 best one day riders.
    Who's in your top 5?

    So you have Alaphilippe, WvA, WvdP - and then? Mads Pederson?
    _
  • joe_totale-2
    joe_totale-2 Posts: 1,333
    I'd have Kwiatkowski, Gilbert and GvA near the top of my list although Hirschi could soon supplant GvA and Gilbert.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    The question with all the riders who had big results last season is how much did they benefit from the unusual season and will it be sustained in a more normal season. So it's a bit early to put him in the top 5 without backing those performances up.
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  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    Is Bernal set to ride this year or is he having a year off to recover?
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    50x11 said:

    gsk82 said:

    gweeds said:

    UAE according to Wielerflits.

    Inrng has re tweeted it, which is good enough for me. It's a shame that one team will have the best gt rider and the best 1 day rider in 2021
    This is such a stretch, obv you like him, but he's not even in the top 5 best one day riders.
    Pogacar being the best gt rider isn't clear cut, either.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,587
    phreak said:

    Is Bernal set to ride this year or is he having a year off to recover?

    Presumably they'd still have to have him under contract even if he won't be riding?
  • 50x11
    50x11 Posts: 408
    rick_chasey said:

    50x11 said:

    gsk82 said:

    gweeds said:

    UAE according to Wielerflits.

    Inrng has re tweeted it, which is good enough for me. It's a shame that one team will have the best gt rider and the best 1 day rider in 2021
    This is such a stretch, obv you like him, but he's not even in the top 5 best one day riders.
    Who's in your top 5?

    So you have Alaphilippe, WvA, WvdP - and then? Mads Pederson?
    Alaphilippe, WvA, MvdP are certainly better.

    Kwiatkowski, Gilbert, GvA, Roglic, and any monuments winner all certainly have a better shot of being in the top 5 that Hirschi.

    He's obviously very good and very talented, but you can't call him the best 1 day rider in the world when he's won 1 one day race, and even that that the least meaningful of the trio it belongs to.

    Cycling is for romantics and that's why you have guys calling a rider with 1 win, the best at the discipline.

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