2021 Transfer rumours and facts
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I do think they can work together.yorkshireraw said:
Do you think Naesen and GvA can work together tho?rick_chasey said:AG2R are going to be really strong in the cobbled classics.
Super strong
Greg to AG2R still seems a strange one to me - can't believe he didn't have other options. A year or two with Ineos esp. now Stannard's gone?
They're really close - not quite best mates but if either got married tomorrow the other would be on their stag do.
They train together almost every day - GvA usually beats him in the sprints for the lampposts.
I think if GvA isn't quite at the level he was, which is possible given his age, he would be more than happy to bury himself for Naesen.
But as we've seen with QS, you need a bunch of strong guys not necessarily the strongest to win.0 -
Cheers, good insight. Although if GvA got married tomorrow I'm sure the current Mrs vA might have something to say about that ;-) (I get what you mean tho).rick_chasey said:
I do think they can work together.yorkshireraw said:
Do you think Naesen and GvA can work together tho?rick_chasey said:AG2R are going to be really strong in the cobbled classics.
Super strong
Greg to AG2R still seems a strange one to me - can't believe he didn't have other options. A year or two with Ineos esp. now Stannard's gone?
They're really close - not quite best mates but if either got married tomorrow the other would be on their stag do.
They train together almost every day - GvA usually beats him in the sprints for the lampposts.
I think if GvA isn't quite at the level he was, which is possible given his age, he would be more than happy to bury himself for Naesen.
But as we've seen with QS, you need a bunch of strong guys not necessarily the strongest to win.
I still think GvA has the edge over Naesen in terms of potential wins, but both (along with all the other classics boys) have got a conundrum on their hands taking on Wout , MVDP and Alaphilippe it would appear.0 -
that interview was bloody excruciating.0
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Agreed. It was a difficult position to justify.dish_dash said:
Good to hear. Though listening to his interview on the Cycling Podcast I couldn't help feeling that he wasn't really doing himself any favours with his approach. Doesn't have an agent which struck me as being a bit of a flaw especially after a couple of years of struggling to sort a contract.carbonclem said:James Shaw to ride for Ribble Weldtite - presumably he got Harry Tanfield's place?
It’s a shame, I guess he’s working for almost nothing. Gotta be hard to keep going.2020/2021/2022 Metric Century Challenge Winner0 -
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Signing him for mountain domestique duties presumably...rick_chasey said:Rumours ineos are serious about getting WvA 😢😢
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No he’d be Tom’s foil in cross races.mrb123 said:
Signing him for mountain domestique duties presumably...rick_chasey said:Rumours ineos are serious about getting WvA 😢😢
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Probably just his agent trying to push up his price.
But Jumbo are now finding out why Sky's wage bill was so high. It's not recruiting riders that costs the money, it's retaining the successful ones.
(I say Sky as Ineos seem to be spending it on recruitment more)Twitter: @RichN950 -
He'll be a decent domestic for Pogacar, alongside Hirshi."Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago0
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If WvA ends up at Ineos then the clamour for a budget/salary cap will start up again. And, in fairness, I think there's a case.It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.0
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How can there be salary cap with the current financial model? As in the rule makers / 'organisers' trouser what they can while teams are dependent on attracting specific external funding.0
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Is there a sport where a salary cap works.0
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It works reasonably well in English rugby , though one club chose to continue to ignore the warnings and hence got relegated.webboo said:Is there a sport where a salary cap works.
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Dorset_Boy said:
It works reasonably well in English rugby , though one club chose to continue to ignore the warnings and hence got relegated.webboo said:Is there a sport where a salary cap works.
But then in rugby the best players go off and play for their country for half the season and earn their money there.Twitter: @RichN950 -
Not at all true for English players.RichN95. said:Dorset_Boy said:
It works reasonably well in English rugby , though one club chose to continue to ignore the warnings and hence got relegated.webboo said:Is there a sport where a salary cap works.
But then in rugby the best players go off and play for their country for half the season and earn their money there.
They were paid £23k per international and that's been reduced to £17,250 currently.
Club contract will be £250-600k pa.
https://telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2020/08/30/england-players-have-match-fees-reduced-5750-autumn/#:~:text=Discussions%20between%20England's%20players%20and,drop%20of%2025%20per%20cent.0 -
They really should be paid more than that per game.
Anyway the problem with salary caps in cycling is it does not fit in with cycling's business model. The teams in sports that have salary caps derive most of the income from TV rights which are negotiated collectively. A financial framework is agreed on which is beneficial to all and based on the guaranteed income of all the teams.
Cycling on the other hand is every man for himself. The TV rights are owned by private companies and the UCI charges teams for licences. To install a salary cap would amount to restraint of trade and not stand up in court. It would drive salaries down as teams with currently medium sized would move to lower budgets under the salary cap. Because while cycling is a team sport, it move often comes down to who has the best rider. Pogacar and MVDP have shown that this year.
Cycling depends on the teams attracting money to the sport. Penalising those that are good at it, is self-destructive. And it is usually supported by those team principals who are crap at it. There would be no motivation to try and better themselves in terms of budget - which Jumbo have done very well.Twitter: @RichN953 -
As good as he may be, WvA isn't going to command the same salary as Froome.
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
So unlike in the amateur days there’s no money left in ones shoes in the changing rooms or suddenly someone gets a high paid job in the city. You are having a laugh. English rugby playing by the rules ha they don’t even do that on the pitch.Dorset_Boy said:
It works reasonably well in English rugby , though one club chose to continue to ignore the warnings and hence got relegated.webboo said:Is there a sport where a salary cap works.
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Jay Vine joins Alpecin-Fenixbobmcstuff said:Related since one of these riders will win a contract with CANYON//SRAM and another with Alpecin-Fenix - finalists announced a few days ago:
The 5 finalists competing for a spot with CANYON//SRAM are:
Neve Bradbury, Australia – 18 years old – 55th ranked woman on ZwiftPower
Nicole Coates, UK – U23 rider, 77th ranked in UK
Eva Marie Hering, Germany – 27 years old, 12th in 2020 Germany Nationals Road race
Kate McCarthy, New Zealand – 25 years old, 5th and 4th in 2020 New Zealand Nationals Road race and ITT, respectively
Natalia Franco Villegas, Colombia – 25 years old, rider with Team Twenty20
The 5 finalists competing for the contract with Alpecin-Fenix are:
Damien Clayton, UK – 28 years old, pro rider with Ribble Weldtite
Jochem Kerckhaert, The Netherlands – 20 years old, 25th in 2020 Netherlands Nationals Road race
Oliver Moors, UK – 24 years old, pro rider with Ribble Weldtite
Jay Vine, Australia – 25 years old, 5th in GC for 2020 Herald Sun Tour
Lionel Vujasin, Belgium – 31 years old, 12th ranked on ZwiftPower. Lionel rides for Canyon Esports and is one of the most well-known racers on the platform
https://zwiftinsider.com/zwift-academy-road-finalists/
So one rider from each list will be in the pro ranks next year. Caught my eye as obviously Tanfield was at Ribble-Weldtite and there's 2 of his teammates in the men's list there!
I thought it was for amateurs but clearly not given the amount of existing pros on there...
Neve Bradbury (18 years old!) joins Canyon SRAM0 -
Are you really saying boot money was unique to English rugby?webboo said:
So unlike in the amateur days there’s no money left in ones shoes in the changing rooms or suddenly someone gets a high paid job in the city. You are having a laugh. English rugby playing by the rules ha they don’t even do that on the pitch.Dorset_Boy said:
It works reasonably well in English rugby , though one club chose to continue to ignore the warnings and hence got relegated.webboo said:Is there a sport where a salary cap works.
It wasn't BTW.
No rugby team plays by rules, the game has laws.
I'm guessing you're a bitter celt of some sort. Which laws are different for English rugby then?
And certainly the laws of the game are clearly different to what Alun Whinge Jones thinks they are.0 -
You couldn’t be more wrong. Now I will guess and say I have been English a lot longer than your good self.Dorset_Boy said:webboo said:
So unlike in the amateur days there’s no money left in ones shoes in the changing rooms or suddenly someone gets a high paid job in the city. You are having a laugh. English rugby playing by the rules ha they don’t even do that on the pitch.Dorset_Boy said:
It works reasonably well in English rugby , though one club chose to continue to ignore the warnings and hence got relegated.webboo said:Is there a sport where a salary cap works.
I'm guessing you're a bitter celt of some sort.
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Firstly you have ignored the questions posed - why?webboo said:
You couldn’t be more wrong. Now I will guess and say I have been English a lot longer than your good self.Dorset_Boy said:webboo said:
So unlike in the amateur days there’s no money left in ones shoes in the changing rooms or suddenly someone gets a high paid job in the city. You are having a laugh. English rugby playing by the rules ha they don’t even do that on the pitch.Dorset_Boy said:
It works reasonably well in English rugby , though one club chose to continue to ignore the warnings and hence got relegated.webboo said:Is there a sport where a salary cap works.
I'm guessing you're a bitter celt of some sort.
The answer to the last part of your post is available on another thread which isn't hard to find - the title is patently obvious.0 -
I ignored the questions because you felt the need to try and make it personal by trying to make out my beliefs about rugby union were to do with my nationality.Dorset_Boy said:
Firstly you have ignored the questions posed - why?webboo said:
You couldn’t be more wrong. Now I will guess and say I have been English a lot longer than your good self.Dorset_Boy said:webboo said:
So unlike in the amateur days there’s no money left in ones shoes in the changing rooms or suddenly someone gets a high paid job in the city. You are having a laugh. English rugby playing by the rules ha they don’t even do that on the pitch.Dorset_Boy said:
It works reasonably well in English rugby , though one club chose to continue to ignore the warnings and hence got relegated.webboo said:Is there a sport where a salary cap works.
I'm guessing you're a bitter celt of some sort.
The answer to the last part of your post is available on another thread which isn't hard to find - the title is patently obvious.1 -
We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Marc Hirschi deal terminated by DSM.0
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He's a man of style on the bike and couldn't bring himself to wear that awfully unimaginative new kit?50x11 said:Marc Hirschi deal terminated by DSM.
More seriously - bought out of contract by a big team?0 -
Would UAE have the budget to do this, could be good extra help for pogacar0
