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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,752


    The Telegraph really have redefined the word Premium

    His argument is that the EU is rubbish because it didn't take EU-wide action, and it was left to the nation states. I wonder what he'd have said if the EU tried ordering an EU-wide lockdown when the outbreak took off in Lombardy.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    edited March 2020
    Foreigners are judging Boris
    Greece has banned flights from the UK
    The Mayor of Bergamo has summoned his daughters home from the UK.

    Strangely as we come down to the wire and find out if he truly can turn the tap on or off or whether he is a complete narcissistic fvck wit I am starting to admire the balls of the bloke.

    Obviously I would rather he was leader of another country but that would not be as exciting
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,833


    I don't think the symptoms are the same for everybody. Some peoples immune systems seem to be able to fight it better than others. As we know children seem to show little if any complications.


    There are also some reports of people losing the sense of smell and taste, as additional indicators.

    Gary Lineker posted today that someone in his house has had exactly those symptoms, but not had it confirmed whether or not it is Covid-19
    Couldn't tell salt and vinegar from cheese and onion apparently.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    Lockdown
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    Much better Johnson. Clear and serious.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597

    Much better Johnson. Clear and serious.

    Decided he's best without press and reading the autocue.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867

    Plans being put together to take over the Excel centre

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/23/nhs-plans-to-turn-excel-centre-into-coronavirus-hospital

    Wish someone had thought of that earlier.

    I will wait for a more reliable source but it does seem bizarre the way we appear to have done no planning whatsoever.

    The deal with private hospitals last week, the tv appeal for somebody, anybody, to make ventilators the week before and the week before that a staffing Budget totally ignoring the onrushing tsunami.

    If we assume that nobody could be so knowingly stupid why do we think this was?
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,611
    That's it then, pretty much 99% lockdown
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,833
    Positively Churchillian there Boris.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    Whenever I hear lockdown mentioned I think of this

    https://youtu.be/63kbFPYcQVM
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    He strikes with perfect timing so that as the number of victims max out so does the capacity of the NHS.

    Two weeks off the first sombrero, so buckle up and let’s hope he has got his sums right.
  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    Pross said:

    Much better Johnson. Clear and serious.

    Decided he's best without press and reading the autocue.

    Very, very important statement, can’t afford a slip up, needs the message to be completely unambiguous, so he’d be crazy to not autocue it.
  • capt_slog
    capt_slog Posts: 3,974

    Pross said:

    Much better Johnson. Clear and serious.

    Decided he's best without press and reading the autocue.

    Very, very important statement, can’t afford a slip up, needs the message to be completely unambiguous, so he’d be crazy to not autocue it.
    but sadly it was only on the BBC. The hard of thinking who really needed to watch it were having their usual dose of Corrie.


    The older I get, the better I was.

  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    capt_slog said:

    Pross said:

    Much better Johnson. Clear and serious.

    Decided he's best without press and reading the autocue.

    Very, very important statement, can’t afford a slip up, needs the message to be completely unambiguous, so he’d be crazy to not autocue it.
    but sadly it was only on the BBC. The hard of thinking who really needed to watch it were having their usual dose of Corrie.


    Ah, didn’t know it was BBC only
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,272
    capt_slog said:

    Pross said:

    Much better Johnson. Clear and serious.

    Decided he's best without press and reading the autocue.

    Very, very important statement, can’t afford a slip up, needs the message to be completely unambiguous, so he’d be crazy to not autocue it.
    but sadly it was only on the BBC. The hard of thinking who really needed to watch it were having their usual dose of Corrie.
    Does that mean Leavers can still leave their homes then? 😉
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228

    Much better Johnson. Clear and serious.

    Agreed. Finally
  • raymondo60
    raymondo60 Posts: 735
    edited March 2020
    Bike ride 8am tomorrow :-) solo of course
    Raymondo

    "Let's just all be really careful out there folks!"
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    Almost 3 hours since being taken off to hospital our family friend is still waiting on the ambulance to be admitted and no other news. It's the worst affected hospital in Wales and the local health board has over half of the confirmed cases so presumably they're overwhelmed.
  • mrfpb
    mrfpb Posts: 4,569
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52009108

    Meanwhile in America Trump appears to go cold on the lockdown option, and the Elected Reps are still too busy point scoring to agree a fiscal rescue package.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,825
    ddraver said:

    What I know of this comes from Ma and Pa raver who were, until recently, A practice Nurse and GP respectively.

    The currently available test only tests for the presence of CV in your system (snot from what I've seen). There have been many cases of people repeatedly testing negative but then rapidly coming down with the virus. Also, anecdotes from Iceland where the entire population was tested suggests that 50% of people may test positive but show no symptoms. I wonder - as a...geologist - that if I'm living with three people testing positive for CV, if I would test positive too because particles are in my nose but not affecting my system because my body knows how to deal with it. i.e. I have the antibodies to deal with it

    As you've worked out I'm sure, the next test that needs to be developed is one for antibodies, effectively similar to the BCG pre-test (which I'm sure has an actual name). From then we can work out who is 'safe' and whether or not people can catch it twice etc. This is bloomin hard work for a lot of very clever people though.

    Hook has just captured Tigerlilly... 😮

    Thanks DDR.

    The antibody test is what I was referring to before. Also intriguing is that this disease can manifest itself in such a wide variety of ways/symptoms and a huge difference in severity from 'don't even know you're ill' to 'dead'.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • crescent
    crescent Posts: 1,201
    I've just replayed the announcement. So, I heard "ok to cycle" and "ok to go out and buy essentials". Essentially the PM has told us all to buy a new bike......I think.
    Bianchi ImpulsoBMC Teammachine SLR02 01Trek Domane AL3“When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. “ ~H.G. Wells Edit - "Unless it's a BMX"
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,752

    Much better Johnson. Clear and serious.

    Agreed. Finally

    Johnson is a liar, and has few, if any, principles. I dislike him intensely for how he's used Brexit to further his personal ambition. But he said what needed saying, convincingly. He might yet redeem himself. I hope he can. He's made a start.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,816
    Pross said:

    Almost 3 hours since being taken off to hospital our family friend is still waiting on the ambulance to be admitted and no other news. It's the worst affected hospital in Wales and the local health board has over half of the confirmed cases so presumably they're overwhelmed.

    Sorry to hear that Pross.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    crescent said:

    I've just replayed the announcement. So, I heard "ok to cycle" and "ok to go out and buy essentials". Essentially the PM has told us all to buy a new bike......I think.

    Good luck finding a bike shop open.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,825

    crescent said:

    I've just replayed the announcement. So, I heard "ok to cycle" and "ok to go out and buy essentials". Essentially the PM has told us all to buy a new bike......I think.

    Good luck finding a bike shop open.
    Online bike retailers might benefit from this? Boris did say use delivery services where you can...

    I heard run, cycle (covers me) and exercise i.e walk the dogs (covers me and the OH).
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • crescent
    crescent Posts: 1,201

    crescent said:

    I've just replayed the announcement. So, I heard "ok to cycle" and "ok to go out and buy essentials". Essentially the PM has told us all to buy a new bike......I think.

    Good luck finding a bike shop open.
    Damn. Thwarted.
    Bianchi ImpulsoBMC Teammachine SLR02 01Trek Domane AL3“When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. “ ~H.G. Wells Edit - "Unless it's a BMX"
  • twotoebenny
    twotoebenny Posts: 1,542


    I heard run, cycle (covers me) and exercise i.e walk the dogs (covers me and the OH).

    ONE form of exercise... so technically if ur. cycling then you ain't walking the dog
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 16,004



    I heard run, cycle (covers me) and exercise i.e walk the dogs (covers me and the OH).

    ONE form of exercise... so technically if ur. cycling then you ain't walking the dog

    Tbf Stevo is a communter not a cyclist. If he's not communting he can walk his dog.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,752
    Time to start renting out dogs for people to walk...
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    Sister in law does dog walking in London. Wonder where her business is going?