The big Coronavirus thread
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My paramedic extended family member last week relayed the local NHS view that peak hysteria would be towards the end of the coming week. Building up nicely so far.0
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Clearly in any age range there is a lot of variation and you are probably much more likely to shake it off than others your age. As for self isolating, well going for a good bike ride on your own is a pretty good option.dabber said:
A weird situation for the so called elderly as well. I'm 72, ride around 100 miles a week... road,off-road and turbo. No underlying illness. Probably massively fitter than the majority of those in the their mid-50's (or younger).Stevo_666 said:This is just a bloody dreadful situation to be in for people with elderly relatives and I know quite a few on here are in that position. The only possible positive spin you can put on it is that around 92% of those in their 70's and 85% of those in their 80's survive this virus.
My wife is 70, again very fit, pilates, body balance etc 3 times a week, both walk regularly as well. No underlying illness.
What are we supposed to do? Vegetate in the house for 4 months, lose our fitness both physically and mentally?
The "70" threshold is purely an artificial number."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
And I guess that's the way we will actually handle it Stevo.... get out in the great outdoors.Stevo_666 said:
Clearly in any age range there is a lot of variation and you are probably much more likely to shake it off than others your age. As for self isolating, well going for a good bike ride on your own is a pretty good option.dabber said:
A weird situation for the so called elderly as well. I'm 72, ride around 100 miles a week... road,off-road and turbo. No underlying illness. Probably massively fitter than the majority of those in the their mid-50's (or younger).Stevo_666 said:This is just a bloody dreadful situation to be in for people with elderly relatives and I know quite a few on here are in that position. The only possible positive spin you can put on it is that around 92% of those in their 70's and 85% of those in their 80's survive this virus.
My wife is 70, again very fit, pilates, body balance etc 3 times a week, both walk regularly as well. No underlying illness.
What are we supposed to do? Vegetate in the house for 4 months, lose our fitness both physically and mentally?
The "70" threshold is purely an artificial number.
The food shopping is the bigger problem. Fortunately the additional costs of ordering on-line isn't a problem for us although it isn't our preferred method especially for fresh food. However, I fear that many older people may find the additional cost burdensome.“You may think that; I couldn’t possibly comment!”
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This is correct and realistically just carry on keeping away from people as much as possible, there is no reason why you should stop cycling.wiznaeme said:An attempt to quarantine an age group such as over 70’s will amount to no more than well intentioned advice. No one will be approaching the elderly in the street asking what age they are and sending them home and the police will arrest no one.
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You are trying to apply logic to people who think the world is flatPross said:
I actually think Goo's theory was far more believable. I mean, if you're into conspiracies they creating a diversion so that you can continue human right abuses without media attention makes sense. Even wearing my tinfoil hat I'm struggling to understand the case for 5g signals causing a virus.surrey_commuter said:
Do you really think that is madder than Goo thinking the Chinese Govt launched Coronavirus to distract from demonstrators in HKPross said:I've actually seen a friend share a post on Facebook comparing countries most affected by Coronavirus with those which are rolling out 5G. I mean, I know she's nuts (big into holistic medicine, hates big pharma, thinks cancer should be treated with natural remedies, anti-vaccination etc.) but how even so how can anyone be seriously linking a virus with 5G?
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That's true Dabber, I'm working from home as of now so will need to get out from time to time to avoid cabin fever, even if work is likely to be pretty busy anyway.dabber said:
And I guess that's the way we will actually handle it Stevo.... get out in the great outdoors.Stevo_666 said:
Clearly in any age range there is a lot of variation and you are probably much more likely to shake it off than others your age. As for self isolating, well going for a good bike ride on your own is a pretty good option.dabber said:
A weird situation for the so called elderly as well. I'm 72, ride around 100 miles a week... road,off-road and turbo. No underlying illness. Probably massively fitter than the majority of those in the their mid-50's (or younger).Stevo_666 said:This is just a bloody dreadful situation to be in for people with elderly relatives and I know quite a few on here are in that position. The only possible positive spin you can put on it is that around 92% of those in their 70's and 85% of those in their 80's survive this virus.
My wife is 70, again very fit, pilates, body balance etc 3 times a week, both walk regularly as well. No underlying illness.
What are we supposed to do? Vegetate in the house for 4 months, lose our fitness both physically and mentally?
The "70" threshold is purely an artificial number.
The food shopping is the bigger problem. Fortunately the additional costs of ordering on-line isn't a problem for us although it isn't our preferred method especially for fresh food. However, I fear that many older people may find the additional cost burdensome.
Now you mention shopping, I was also thinking about other stuff that is normally routine - like how to get my hair cut without putting myself at risk. May have to invest in some clippers and go skinhead."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Tracking deaths instead of positives
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Phefff, I'm going to cheer myself up and watch Das Boot.0
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isolating the over 70's also kills off a lot of childcare for their grandkids - so it's a massive impact.
We'd be impacted, but would have to deal with it - if they shut schools at the same time it would be handy as 2 of our neighbours are teachers - so they can carry on then
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More from the Verbier chronicles.
When I developed a cough for a night, my other housemates - with whom I do not get on with very well as theyre all romanian and so speak that 99% of the time - called the other Resort Manager (my equal) in dire straits about how I might have Coronavirus.
This week, one of them has come down with symptoms and is 'self-isolating' by sitting in the middle of the couch with all of them.
Apparently the coronavirus is only an issue if you don't catch it from a friend.
This is why we can't have nice things
[/rant]We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Surely if he has it, then you will get it (assuming you don't already have it).ddraver said:More from the Verbier chronicles.
When I developed a cough for a night, my other housemates - with whom I do not get on with very well as theyre all romanian and so speak that 99% of the time - called the other Resort Manager (my equal) in dire straits about how I might have Coronavirus.
This week, one of them has come down with symptoms and is 'self-isolating' by sitting in the middle of the couch with all of them.
Apparently the coronavirus is only an issue if you don't catch it from a friend.
This is why we can't have nice things
[/rant]"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Oh I probably gave it to him. I would think it's the same virus, Corona or not*.
My issue is more with the total variation in reaction. I suspect it's way more common that we might realise and the implications thereof are... concerning.
(*That said, we work driving people around so we could have got it from anyone any time over the last 2 or 3 weeks)We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Why are the government considering 'buying' private hospital beds? This is the UKs biggest national emergency since WW2. Surely the requisition of private hospitals is the order of the day.Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.0
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My house doesn't contain medical equipment essential for the saving of lives. Private hospitals do.john80 said:
Probably for similar reasons they cant just requisition your housemr_goo said:Why are the government considering 'buying' private hospital beds? This is the UKs biggest national emergency since WW2. Surely the requisition of private hospitals is the order of the day.
Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.0 -
I think you’ll find that they can, for a price, and it may not be the price you’d like. It’s called compulsory purchase. Ask anyone living on a proposed motorway/railway line.john80 said:
Probably for similar reasons they cant just requisition your housemr_goo said:Why are the government considering 'buying' private hospital beds? This is the UKs biggest national emergency since WW2. Surely the requisition of private hospitals is the order of the day.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I'll agree that it is probably much more widespread than people think, it looks like it is very infectious/contagious and the testing is someway behind the actual infections. That's why I'm becoming Harry Hermit, working from home and no social engagements.ddraver said:Oh I probably gave it to him. I would think it's the same virus, Corona or not*.
My issue is more with the total variation in reaction. I suspect it's way more common that we might realise and the implications thereof are... concerning.
(*That said, we work driving people around so we could have got it from anyone any time over the last 2 or 3 weeks)"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Just got back earlier from talking to my parents about them self isolating - read the Guardian on line about a govt. report that this epidemic may last until next spring. I mean I've just spent an hour or two persuading them that they have to take this seriously or run a significant risk it'll kill them - in my dad's case I'd say it likely would, my mum is still pretty fit for someone in her 80s - but 12 months self isolating is a hell of a thing to ask of people.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0
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Roads were surprisingly busy this morning but the train station is virtually deserted and I managed to park on the closest available street to the station for only the second time in the time I've been commuting by train.0
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I can see a connection between busy roads and quiet trains. 😉The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
That looks like we are about to take a decisive leadtailwindhome said:Tracking deaths instead of positives
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Yeah although I expected both to be a lot quieter to be honest. My work relies a lot on traffic surveys and we've been debating whether to keep on getting them done as they need to be typical examples and we were expecting a sharp drop off that might mean them having to be redone.pblakeney said:I can see a connection between busy roads and quiet trains. 😉
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Reuters aren't playing the 'Downing Street sources' game any more“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Like another chart I saw, comparing raw figures rather than per capita, is rather misleading.surrey_commuter said:
That looks like we are about to take a decisive leadtailwindhome said:Tracking deaths instead of positives
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People also seem to forget the y axis isn’t linear...surrey_commuter said:
That looks like we are about to take a decisive leadtailwindhome said:Tracking deaths instead of positives
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I am having the same conversations - maybe the older generations are more literal and it has to be translated as minimising contactDeVlaeminck said:Just got back earlier from talking to my parents about them self isolating - read the Guardian on line about a govt. report that this epidemic may last until next spring. I mean I've just spent an hour or two persuading them that they have to take this seriously or run a significant risk it'll kill them - in my dad's case I'd say it likely would, my mum is still pretty fit for someone in her 80s - but 12 months self isolating is a hell of a thing to ask of people.
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OK, I get yours (and RJST’s) points about the scale but why does this not mean that Boris’s plan is not working and our number of deaths is not outstripping countries who have tried to control the spread.rick_chasey said:
People also seem to forget the y axis isn’t linear...surrey_commuter said:
That looks like we are about to take a decisive leadtailwindhome said:Tracking deaths instead of positives
Personally I would have learnt from the countries on the right of the graph.0 -
Why do you think the Govt seizing and running private hospitals would lead to a more optimal outcome?mr_goo said:Why are the government considering 'buying' private hospital beds? This is the UKs biggest national emergency since WW2. Surely the requisition of private hospitals is the order of the day.
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It is not misleading as regards the speed of the spread. If you are looking at it as giving a likelihood that you will get the disease, then you need a per capita.rjsterry said:
Like another chart I saw, comparing raw figures rather than per capita, is rather misleading.surrey_commuter said:
That looks like we are about to take a decisive leadtailwindhome said:Tracking deaths instead of positives
And that would look worse for the UK.0 -
I tend to agree.surrey_commuter said:
OK, I get yours (and RJST’s) points about the scale but why does this not mean that Boris’s plan is not working and our number of deaths is not outstripping countries who have tried to control the spread.rick_chasey said:
People also seem to forget the y axis isn’t linear...surrey_commuter said:
That looks like we are about to take a decisive leadtailwindhome said:Tracking deaths instead of positives
Personally I would have learnt from the countries on the right of the graph.
I have read it's because the UK is eyeing up the 2nd wave and not the first, but I am not convinced by this.
It would be nice if they articulated why they are doing things differently.0
