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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    TheBigBean said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Good news - vaccine does seem to reduce risk of long covid. Based on people who caught covid after vaccination compared to those before vaccination.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/7e56427a-788a-11ec-a9ac-7b4ca33c4cb4?shareToken=10c6748201dab963fe5d0d3e58ba44dc

    Have you recovered?
    Nope.

    No heart or lung damage on mri and ct scans though, so trying to build up by doing a little exercise and work out how much is loss of fitness. Have got health insurance so feels like I had every test imaginable in the last couple of months. Low lymphocytes is the only possibly relevant thing they found, so waiting on another more detailed blood test for that.

    Seems likely that because there's no scarring on the heart or lungs, I will eventually get back to being able to do stuff. Bored of it to be honest.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,325
    Darwinism bites yet another.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60050996
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    pblakeney said:

    Darwinism bites yet another.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60050996

    There's more to that story I think. Getting up to go for a walk then choking to death in 10 minutes?
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    edited January 2022
    Boris expects us to wash our hands and "think about" wearing a face mask in enclosed spaces. Why the distinction between the two pieces of guidance?
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    I absolutely hate everything about masks, but it seems stupid to remove them from the guidance while we're still in winter.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,325
    First.Aspect said:

    pblakeney said:

    Darwinism bites yet another.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60050996

    There's more to that story I think. Getting up to go for a walk then choking to death in 10 minutes?
    I was thinking respiratory problems rather than choking.
    A translation issue, maybe?
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    pblakeney said:

    First.Aspect said:

    pblakeney said:

    Darwinism bites yet another.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60050996

    There's more to that story I think. Getting up to go for a walk then choking to death in 10 minutes?
    I was thinking respiratory problems rather than choking.
    A translation issue, maybe?
    pblakeney said:

    First.Aspect said:

    pblakeney said:

    Darwinism bites yet another.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60050996

    There's more to that story I think. Getting up to go for a walk then choking to death in 10 minutes?
    I was thinking respiratory problems rather than choking.
    A translation issue, maybe?
    Possibly. I didn't think covid was so sudden that you would go from being able to get dressed to death, without passing the not being able to walk around and going to hospital to be ventilated stage.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    Sad news, maybe a blood clot or something like that if Covid related ?
    [Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,915
    kingstongraham said:

    TheBigBean said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Good news - vaccine does seem to reduce risk of long covid. Based on people who caught covid after vaccination compared to those before vaccination.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/7e56427a-788a-11ec-a9ac-7b4ca33c4cb4?shareToken=10c6748201dab963fe5d0d3e58ba44dc

    Have you recovered?
    Nope.

    No heart or lung damage on mri and ct scans though, so trying to build up by doing a little exercise and work out how much is loss of fitness. Have got health insurance so feels like I had every test imaginable in the last couple of months. Low lymphocytes is the only possibly relevant thing they found, so waiting on another more detailed blood test for that.

    Seems likely that because there's no scarring on the heart or lungs, I will eventually get back to being able to do stuff. Bored of it to be honest.
    Sounds frustrating.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,550
    First.Aspect said:

    kingstonian said:

    The mask wearing really doesn’t bother me. Two years ago, just before Covid kicked off in the UK, the thought of wearing a mask was alien to me but now it feels normal. Whilst some of the restrictions imposed when Omicron started are likely to be rolled back, if mask wearing on public transport remained, for example, I’d be fine with it.

    Fine if you are popping into a shop, or on a shortish train journey, but how would would you feel if you were wearing one all day every day at work?
    Still not in any way a big deal.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,915
    After nearly two years though I'd estimate that less than 5% of people where an effective mask in an effective way.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    TheBigBean said:

    After nearly two years though I'd estimate that less than 5% of people where an effective mask in an effective way.

    The USA government are distributing 400m N95 masks. Bit late.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    rjsterry said:

    First.Aspect said:

    kingstonian said:

    The mask wearing really doesn’t bother me. Two years ago, just before Covid kicked off in the UK, the thought of wearing a mask was alien to me but now it feels normal. Whilst some of the restrictions imposed when Omicron started are likely to be rolled back, if mask wearing on public transport remained, for example, I’d be fine with it.

    Fine if you are popping into a shop, or on a shortish train journey, but how would would you feel if you were wearing one all day every day at work?
    Still not in any way a big deal.
    Not any more given the rule changes today.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    First.Aspect said:

    kingstonian said:

    The mask wearing really doesn’t bother me. Two years ago, just before Covid kicked off in the UK, the thought of wearing a mask was alien to me but now it feels normal. Whilst some of the restrictions imposed when Omicron started are likely to be rolled back, if mask wearing on public transport remained, for example, I’d be fine with it.

    Fine if you are popping into a shop, or on a shortish train journey, but how would would you feel if you were wearing one all day every day at work?
    Still not in any way a big deal.
    Not any more given the rule changes today.
    Nobody is stopping people from choosing to wear a decent mask to protect themselves. If circumstances dictate, I'll definitely be doing that.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    kingstongraham said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    First.Aspect said:

    kingstonian said:

    The mask wearing really doesn’t bother me. Two years ago, just before Covid kicked off in the UK, the thought of wearing a mask was alien to me but now it feels normal. Whilst some of the restrictions imposed when Omicron started are likely to be rolled back, if mask wearing on public transport remained, for example, I’d be fine with it.

    Fine if you are popping into a shop, or on a shortish train journey, but how would would you feel if you were wearing one all day every day at work?
    Still not in any way a big deal.
    Not any more given the rule changes today.
    Nobody is stopping people from choosing to wear a decent mask to protect themselves. If circumstances dictate, I'll definitely be doing that.
    Absolutely - people can still choose to take precautions if they want. Free country etc. Overall I think it s a sensible decision in the circumstances.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    edited January 2022
    Getting rid of the things they introduced that were never going to do any good is welcome, obviously.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,550
    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    First.Aspect said:

    kingstonian said:

    The mask wearing really doesn’t bother me. Two years ago, just before Covid kicked off in the UK, the thought of wearing a mask was alien to me but now it feels normal. Whilst some of the restrictions imposed when Omicron started are likely to be rolled back, if mask wearing on public transport remained, for example, I’d be fine with it.

    Fine if you are popping into a shop, or on a shortish train journey, but how would would you feel if you were wearing one all day every day at work?
    Still not in any way a big deal.
    Not any more given the rule changes today.
    I wasn't wearing just because of the rules. Will probably continue for a while yet as I have quite a few face to face meetings with lots of talking.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,915
    Test and trace have specified a quarantine period for a family member, but this is based on the day of her positive PCR and not the day of her first symptom or the day of her positive lateral flow test. Should this just be ignored as the guidance is clear that it is from the first symptom?

    Also, I sent four tests at the same time and have only received one result which was 10 hours ago.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    TheBigBean said:

    Test and trace have specified a quarantine period for a family member, but this is based on the day of her positive PCR and not the day of her first symptom or the day of her positive lateral flow test. Should this just be ignored as the guidance is clear that it is from the first symptom?

    Also, I sent four tests at the same time and have only received one result which was 10 hours ago.

    The texts I got from T&T were contradictory. First said 7 days from positive test which would have been the 15th, the second said 17th was the last full day and the last on the 18th at 23:59.

    So use your own judgement to do what is right
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,915
    surrey_commuter said:

    TheBigBean said:

    Test and trace have specified a quarantine period for a family member, but this is based on the day of her positive PCR and not the day of her first symptom or the day of her positive lateral flow test. Should this just be ignored as the guidance is clear that it is from the first symptom?

    Also, I sent four tests at the same time and have only received one result which was 10 hours ago.

    The texts I got from T&T were contradictory. First said 7 days from positive test which would have been the 15th, the second said 17th was the last full day and the last on the 18th at 23:59.

    So use your own judgement to do what is right
    I was planning to do that, but I had assumed they might have it working smoothly by now.. Anyway, thanks for your reply. Which day did you choose?
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,347
    TheBigBean said:

    I was planning to do that, but I had assumed they might have it working smoothly by now..


    Nah, not for just £37bn and two years' experience.
    https://www.facebook.com/unanglaisendiois
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697


    So... It's 25 of March, your work mate comes in with a horrible cough, a temperature and a positive test.

    What do you do..?
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    ddraver said:



    So... It's 25 of March, your work mate comes in with a horrible cough, a temperature and a positive test.

    What do you do..?


    I’d do what I did before Covid, and tell them they should be at home rather than spread their germs in the office.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    And if they dont go..?

    And you have plans to see your parents that weekend etc etc
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    ddraver said:

    And if they dont go..?

    And you have plans to see your parents that weekend etc etc

    What did you do before when someone turned up ill?
    People will have to learn to live with covid and make their own decisions
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    Before the diseases didnt have a chance of killing/crippling me.

    At the risk of sounding like Stevo, you didnt answer the question though...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    YOU are the one there. YOU are a grown up. YOU make any decision based on how YOU perceive the threat to your well being based on whether you are jabbed or have a comprised immune system.
    Life must get back to normal sometime.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    If someone turned up with a positive test I'd tell them to get out and if they didn't I'd escalate it until they did or they forced me to shut up. I mean a bit of a sniffle is one thing but nailed on positive and showing symptoms is another level.
    [Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    People have posted on here how they have been blasé about catching it off family members so it would be a bit rich for them to get all precious about catching it from a colleague
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    I've not seen anyone blasé about passing it on to others.
    [Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]

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