The big Coronavirus thread

rjsterry

laurentian said:

Went out to the pub last night as we do every Tuesday.

There were about 6 of us in the "main" part of the pub after about 9.30pm but the large adjoining restaurant was packed, properly packed for a "meeting" of antivaxxers. There must have been 80 - 100 of them.

On leaving the pub at chucking out time, there were a gaggle of these people outside nattering and I think they thought we had been in the meeting so when we came out of the pub, one small group (3 or 4) started talking to my mates and I. When we told them that we were fully vaxxed and boosted, one apparantly deranged woman began to tell us how sorry she felt for us and our kids as we were absolutely, undoubtedly going to die in line with the government's current policy of "depopulating" by vaccine.

No amount of reasoning or questioning would eleicit anything like a sensible answer.

Q. "Why would the government want to depopulate?"
A. "OH MY GOD . . . Arrrrrgh . . . you just don't get it!"
Q. "Get What?"
A. "that they're trying to kill you!"
Q. But why would they want to kill me?"
A. Arrgh!

And so it continued until my mate and I got bored.

They were total nutters! I was just amazed how many there were in this little village pub. Their evangelical approach was something I haven't seen since the days when people would come up to you in the street to ask if Jesus was in your life. . .

Scary stuff

Amazing how the urge to be part of the gang just overrides every other instinct.

rjsterry

laurentian said:

Went out to the pub last night as we do every Tuesday.

There were about 6 of us in the "main" part of the pub after about 9.30pm but the large adjoining restaurant was packed, properly packed for a "meeting" of antivaxxers. There must have been 80 - 100 of them.

On leaving the pub at chucking out time, there were a gaggle of these people outside nattering and I think they thought we had been in the meeting so when we came out of the pub, one small group (3 or 4) started talking to my mates and I. When we told them that we were fully vaxxed and boosted, one apparantly deranged woman began to tell us how sorry she felt for us and our kids as we were absolutely, undoubtedly going to die in line with the government's current policy of "depopulating" by vaccine.

No amount of reasoning or questioning would eleicit anything like a sensible answer.

Q. "Why would the government want to depopulate?"
A. "OH MY GOD . . . Arrrrrgh . . . you just don't get it!"
Q. "Get What?"
A. "that they're trying to kill you!"
Q. But why would they want to kill me?"
A. Arrgh!

And so it continued until my mate and I got bored.

They were total nutters! I was just amazed how many there were in this little village pub. Their evangelical approach was something I haven't seen since the days when people would come up to you in the street to ask if Jesus was in your life. . .

Scary stuff

Amazing how the urge to be part of the gang just overrides every other instinct.

pangolin

rjsterry said:

laurentian said:

Went out to the pub last night as we do every Tuesday.

There were about 6 of us in the "main" part of the pub after about 9.30pm but the large adjoining restaurant was packed, properly packed for a "meeting" of antivaxxers. There must have been 80 - 100 of them.

On leaving the pub at chucking out time, there were a gaggle of these people outside nattering and I think they thought we had been in the meeting so when we came out of the pub, one small group (3 or 4) started talking to my mates and I. When we told them that we were fully vaxxed and boosted, one apparantly deranged woman began to tell us how sorry she felt for us and our kids as we were absolutely, undoubtedly going to die in line with the government's current policy of "depopulating" by vaccine.

No amount of reasoning or questioning would eleicit anything like a sensible answer.

Q. "Why would the government want to depopulate?"
A. "OH MY GOD . . . Arrrrrgh . . . you just don't get it!"
Q. "Get What?"
A. "that they're trying to kill you!"
Q. But why would they want to kill me?"
A. Arrgh!

And so it continued until my mate and I got bored.

They were total nutters! I was just amazed how many there were in this little village pub. Their evangelical approach was something I haven't seen since the days when people would come up to you in the street to ask if Jesus was in your life. . .

Scary stuff

Amazing how the urge to be part of the gang just overrides every other instinct.

Yeah!!!

longy

laurentian said:

Went out to the pub last night as we do every Tuesday.

There were about 6 of us in the "main" part of the pub after about 9.30pm but the large adjoining restaurant was packed, properly packed for a "meeting" of antivaxxers. There must have been 80 - 100 of them.

On leaving the pub at chucking out time, there were a gaggle of these people outside nattering and I think they thought we had been in the meeting so when we came out of the pub, one small group (3 or 4) started talking to my mates and I. When we told them that we were fully vaxxed and boosted, one apparantly deranged woman began to tell us how sorry she felt for us and our kids as we were absolutely, undoubtedly going to die in line with the government's current policy of "depopulating" by vaccine.

No amount of reasoning or questioning would eleicit anything like a sensible answer.

Q. "Why would the government want to depopulate?"
A. "OH MY GOD . . . Arrrrrgh . . . you just don't get it!"
Q. "Get What?"
A. "that they're trying to kill you!"
Q. But why would they want to kill me?"
A. Arrgh!

And so it continued until my mate and I got bored.

They were total nutters! I was just amazed how many there were in this little village pub. Their evangelical approach was something I haven't seen since the days when people would come up to you in the street to ask if Jesus was in your life. . .

Scary stuff

To be honest, with people like that around, I'm having some sympathy with "they".

briantrumpet

Over 100k cases reported today, but 'only' 140 deaths, which is lower than last week. And I still am left wondering when the high number of cases couple with steady mortality rates (I accept the later isn't yet established) will actually be reported as good news, rather than 😱

kingstongraham

briantrumpet said:

Over 100k cases reported today, but 'only' 140 deaths, which is lower than last week. And I still am left wondering when the high number of cases couple with steady mortality rates (I accept the later isn't yet established) will actually be reported as good news, rather than 😱

Up till now it's the booster effect on delta. Which is great news.

I can't see it staying steady in a couple of weeks when the last week's infections feed through. It's whether it goes up to 500 or 1500 a day, probably.

London hospital admissions up to 301 (50% up in a week) as the rise in infections starts to get into those numbers.

skyblueamateur

kingstongraham said:

briantrumpet said:

Over 100k cases reported today, but 'only' 140 deaths, which is lower than last week. And I still am left wondering when the high number of cases couple with steady mortality rates (I accept the later isn't yet established) will actually be reported as good news, rather than 😱

Up till now it's the booster effect on delta. Which is great news.

I can't see it staying steady in a couple of weeks when the last week's infections feed through. It's whether it goes up to 500 or 1500 a day, probably.

London hospital admissions up to 301 (50% up in a week) as the rise in infections starts to get into those numbers.

Is that people in hospital with Covid or because of Covid?

First.Aspect

kingstongraham said:

briantrumpet said:

Over 100k cases reported today, but 'only' 140 deaths, which is lower than last week. And I still am left wondering when the high number of cases couple with steady mortality rates (I accept the later isn't yet established) will actually be reported as good news, rather than 😱

Up till now it's the booster effect on delta. Which is great news.

I can't see it staying steady in a couple of weeks when the last week's infections feed through. It's whether it goes up to 500 or 1500 a day, probably.

London hospital admissions up to 301 (50% up in a week) as the rise in infections starts to get into those numbers.

Is that still effectively harvesting though, given that 30% ish of London's adult population isn't vaccinated.

Hopefully not reflected nationwide.

First.Aspect

briantrumpet said:

Over 100k cases reported today, but 'only' 140 deaths, which is lower than last week. And I still am left wondering when the high number of cases couple with steady mortality rates (I accept the later isn't yet established) will actually be reported as good news, rather than 😱

Nice emoticonation.

kingstongraham

skyblueamateur said:

kingstongraham said:

briantrumpet said:

Over 100k cases reported today, but 'only' 140 deaths, which is lower than last week. And I still am left wondering when the high number of cases couple with steady mortality rates (I accept the later isn't yet established) will actually be reported as good news, rather than 😱

Up till now it's the booster effect on delta. Which is great news.

I can't see it staying steady in a couple of weeks when the last week's infections feed through. It's whether it goes up to 500 or 1500 a day, probably.

London hospital admissions up to 301 (50% up in a week) as the rise in infections starts to get into those numbers.

Is that people in hospital with Covid or because of Covid?

Same stats as ever, so the former including the latter, and some of the former will become the latter.

kingstongraham

First.Aspect said:

kingstongraham said:

briantrumpet said:

Over 100k cases reported today, but 'only' 140 deaths, which is lower than last week. And I still am left wondering when the high number of cases couple with steady mortality rates (I accept the later isn't yet established) will actually be reported as good news, rather than 😱

Up till now it's the booster effect on delta. Which is great news.

I can't see it staying steady in a couple of weeks when the last week's infections feed through. It's whether it goes up to 500 or 1500 a day, probably.

London hospital admissions up to 301 (50% up in a week) as the rise in infections starts to get into those numbers.

Is that still effectively harvesting though, given that 30% ish of London's adult population isn't vaccinated.

Hopefully not reflected nationwide.

🤷‍♂️

But hopefully will be a lower percentage nationwide.

briantrumpet

First.Aspect said:

briantrumpet said:

Over 100k cases reported today, but 'only' 140 deaths, which is lower than last week. And I still am left wondering when the high number of cases couple with steady mortality rates (I accept the later isn't yet established) will actually be reported as good news, rather than 😱

Nice emoticonation.

Just winding up the 👴

briantrumpet

kingstongraham said:

skyblueamateur said:

kingstongraham said:

briantrumpet said:

Over 100k cases reported today, but 'only' 140 deaths, which is lower than last week. And I still am left wondering when the high number of cases couple with steady mortality rates (I accept the later isn't yet established) will actually be reported as good news, rather than 😱

Up till now it's the booster effect on delta. Which is great news.

I can't see it staying steady in a couple of weeks when the last week's infections feed through. It's whether it goes up to 500 or 1500 a day, probably.

London hospital admissions up to 301 (50% up in a week) as the rise in infections starts to get into those numbers.

Is that people in hospital with Covid or because of Covid?

Same stats as ever, so the former including the latter, and some of the former will become the latter.

Dr John Campbell noted that 50% of those admissions identified with covid were presenting with other conditions, and that the covid was asymptomatic/incidental. I think in South Africa that percentage was even higher, IIRC.

First.Aspect

Oh for god's sake what does iirc mean?

orraloon

First.Aspect said:

Oh for god's sake what does iirc mean?

It's Klingon for "ah dinnae hae a clue"

kingstongraham

First.Aspect said:

Oh for god's sake what does iirc mean?

I I ReCkon

First.Aspect

kingstongraham said:

First.Aspect said:

Oh for god's sake what does iirc mean?

I I ReCkon

Why two i's.

Stoopid yoofs.

rick_chasey

If I remember correctly

briantrumpet

First.Aspect said:

kingstongraham said:

briantrumpet said:

Over 100k cases reported today, but 'only' 140 deaths, which is lower than last week. And I still am left wondering when the high number of cases couple with steady mortality rates (I accept the later isn't yet established) will actually be reported as good news, rather than 😱

Up till now it's the booster effect on delta. Which is great news.

I can't see it staying steady in a couple of weeks when the last week's infections feed through. It's whether it goes up to 500 or 1500 a day, probably.

London hospital admissions up to 301 (50% up in a week) as the rise in infections starts to get into those numbers.

Is that still effectively harvesting though, given that 30% ish of London's adult population isn't vaccinated.

Hopefully not reflected nationwide.

Yup. I assume/hope that they are collecting data on the % of hospitalisations because of covid, and the % of those who are unvaccinated, so that they can adjust for other parts of the country.

London is being closely watched because the Omicron spike took off first here, and so it is assumd that what is happening in the capital will be replicated in other parts of the country.

But London also has a population with unusually low rates of vaccination. More than 30% of Londoners over the age of 12 have not yet had a first jab. Nationally the equivalent figure is 10%. That suggests London may turn out to be more of an outlier than a reliable indicator for how Omicron will drive up hospitalisation rates in the rest of the UK.

briantrumpet

kingstongraham said:

First.Aspect said:

Oh for god's sake what does iirc mean?

I I ReCkon

I, I, Remember can't.

First.Aspect

But who would say the non abbreviated version, and would also feel the need to abbreviate?

Other than Brian.

briantrumpet

Do we need to do an old 💨's dictionary of standard internet abbreviations?

First.Aspect

briantrumpet said:

Do we need to do an old 💨's dictionary of standard internet abbreviations?

I would find this helpful.

DeVlaeminck

Anti vaxxers are using this WHO spokesperson (edit - it's the Director General) misspeaking as evidence of the vaccines harm.

https://twitter.com/suzseddon/status/1473544980341923844?t=Mm7goMA3i0VmpE0H5RcMRQ&s=19

briantrumpet

First.Aspect said:

briantrumpet said:

Do we need to do an old 💨's dictionary of standard internet abbreviations?

I would find this helpful.

Actually, TBF (to be fair), I don't use many. You've had one, IMHO (in my humble opinion) is another useful one that an emoji would struggle to convey. LOL (not 'lots of love', as my mum might have used it) has been overtaken by 🤣 or 😂.

I also like FRO ('right off' are the last two words), but it's not for polite and learned discussions as we have in CS (Cake Stop).

DeVlaeminck

kingstongraham said:

First.Aspect said:

Oh for god's sake what does iirc mean?

I I ReCkon

briantrumpet

A handful of useful/common ones here:

TheBigBean

kingstongraham said:

skyblueamateur said:

kingstongraham said:

briantrumpet said:

Over 100k cases reported today, but 'only' 140 deaths, which is lower than last week. And I still am left wondering when the high number of cases couple with steady mortality rates (I accept the later isn't yet established) will actually be reported as good news, rather than 😱

Up till now it's the booster effect on delta. Which is great news.

I can't see it staying steady in a couple of weeks when the last week's infections feed through. It's whether it goes up to 500 or 1500 a day, probably.

London hospital admissions up to 301 (50% up in a week) as the rise in infections starts to get into those numbers.

Is that people in hospital with Covid or because of Covid?

Same stats as ever, so the former including the latter, and some of the former will become the latter.

It's vaguely important to understand this because a virus that spreads easily in a hospital, but is very mild would misrepresent the stats when compared to previous waves.

First.Aspect

briantrumpet said:

A handful of useful/common ones here:

A lot of these pre date the internet, and go back as far as the post it. Aka. Fyi. TBC.

And why abbreviate "people"? The clarity: brevity ratio is all wrong.

briantrumpet

First.Aspect said:

briantrumpet said:

A handful of useful/common ones here:

A lot of these pre date the internet, and go back as far as the post it. Aka. Fyi. TBC.

And why abbreviate "people"? The clarity: brevity ratio is all wrong.

Yes, some of those are a waste of time, and outdated. I remember reading a book in French in the 90's on English slang, and if a French person had followed its advice, they'd have sounded like Austin Powers.