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  • Ncovidius
    Ncovidius Posts: 229
    edited December 2021
    I’ve been offered a booster jab. I’ll probably have it, but not because I think it’s going to have any great effect, more because I think ‘Covid passports’ will only be issued to triple jabbed people soon, and I believe that it will be a requirement of entry to more events and places soon.
  • Ncovidius
    Ncovidius Posts: 229
    kingstongraham said:



    Bad. Especially for us in the middle who had AZ.

    Hopefully the news for serious disease will be better.

    So booster ASAP.
    It’s no surprise. Viral vector vaccines historically don’t work against human coronaviruses. It’s the main reason why there’s never been an effective vaccine against the ‘common cold’. ‘Common cold’ is an umbrella term for symptoms caused by a ‘soup’ of viruses ( rhinoviruses, adenoviruses ) and crucially, a coronavirus relic from the Spanish flu. It’s this component that has traditionally made it impossible to vaccinate people against the ‘common cold’ using viral vector vaccines. The new mRNA type vaccines have not previously been licensed for use in humans, and it seems that they do have some effect against human coronaviruses.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,079
    tailwindhome said:

    I'm becoming more and more convinced that the illness my wife had in March 2020 was an undiagnosed case of covid and that was it coming into our house.

    Too many friends and family have tested positive in subsequent waves, people we have been close contacts of, for none of us to have tested positive just based on luck.


    ETA...that said teenage son 1 is getting a PCR this evening

    It would be interesting to know, but I don't think you can read too much into not having had a positve test. I think the majority of people in the first wave didn't give Covid to anyone, and by the time delta came a long many were vaccinated already with complete protection from covid.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    Ncovidius said:

    kingstongraham said:



    Bad. Especially for us in the middle who had AZ.

    Hopefully the news for serious disease will be better.

    So booster ASAP.
    It’s no surprise. Viral vector vaccines historically don’t work against human coronaviruses. It’s the main reason why there’s never been an effective vaccine against the ‘common cold’. ‘Common cold’ is an umbrella term for symptoms caused by a ‘soup’ of viruses ( rhinoviruses, adenoviruses ) and crucially, a coronavirus relic from the Spanish flu. It’s this component that has traditionally made it impossible to vaccinate people against the ‘common cold’ using viral vector vaccines. The new mRNA type vaccines have not previously been licensed for use in humans, and it seems that they do have some effect against human coronaviruses.
    Wrong acct?
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,291
    Ncovidius said:

    kingstongraham said:



    Bad. Especially for us in the middle who had AZ.

    Hopefully the news for serious disease will be better.

    So booster ASAP.
    It’s no surprise. Viral vector vaccines historically don’t work against human coronaviruses. It’s the main reason why there’s never been an effective vaccine against the ‘common cold’. ‘Common cold’ is an umbrella term for symptoms caused by a ‘soup’ of viruses ( rhinoviruses, adenoviruses ) and crucially, a coronavirus relic from the Spanish flu. It’s this component that has traditionally made it impossible to vaccinate people against the ‘common cold’ using viral vector vaccines. The new mRNA type vaccines have not previously been licensed for use in humans, and it seems that they do have some effect against human coronaviruses.
    Well spotted, Einstein
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,183
    edited December 2021
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss1LSwjtrhA

    Still positive news in terms of how mild omicron is with regards data from South Africa.

    One concerning point is raised towards the end though, because people who unfortunately die (lung complications) occur towards the end of the infectious period, the virus at that point has already had ample time to spread and moved on. This consequently means there is no evolutionary motive for Covid not to kill it's host, where is the advantage/disadvantage if the virus has already spread?

    In other words strains could become milder or stronger. I hope this is proved to be wrong (click to jump to point in the video).
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Booster booked for dec 23 👍🏻👍🏻
    _
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,682
    rick_chasey said:

    Booster booked for dec 23 👍🏻👍🏻

    I feel I need to start having a reverse rant now considering how you were moaning about how long your original jabs took. I had my second in June and still waiting on a letter for my booster.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,594
    Pross said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Booster booked for dec 23 👍🏻👍🏻

    I feel I need to start having a reverse rant now considering how you were moaning about how long your original jabs took. I had my second in June and still waiting on a letter for my booster.
    Can't you just phone or book online?
    Being proactive this time round seems to get quicker appointments.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,682
    pblakeney said:

    Pross said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Booster booked for dec 23 👍🏻👍🏻

    I feel I need to start having a reverse rant now considering how you were moaning about how long your original jabs took. I had my second in June and still waiting on a letter for my booster.
    Can't you just phone or book online?
    Being proactive this time round seems to get quicker appointments.
    Nope, Welsh NHS doesn't allow it. They seemed to be quicker on the initial jabs but seems to be taking longer this time. Could be they are getting more people having it I suppose. Wife and daughter were both done quickly but they were in the first group.

  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,183
    edited December 2021
    Pross said:

    pblakeney said:

    Pross said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Booster booked for dec 23 👍🏻👍🏻

    I feel I need to start having a reverse rant now considering how you were moaning about how long your original jabs took. I had my second in June and still waiting on a letter for my booster.
    Can't you just phone or book online?
    Being proactive this time round seems to get quicker appointments.
    Nope, Welsh NHS doesn't allow it. They seemed to be quicker on the initial jabs but seems to be taking longer this time. Could be they are getting more people having it I suppose. Wife and daughter were both done quickly but they were in the first group.

    If you are fit and healthy and have no medical history, does it matter? Be patient and wait your turn knowing the people who require it before you are getting it (considered more vulnerable).
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,291
    Boosted today. VERY efficiently done at Kingston University.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,183
    I guess John Prescott's mates must call him five jabs now.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,666
    rick_chasey said:

    Booster booked for dec 23 👍🏻👍🏻

    It's still officially over 40s right? Does the site let you do it anyway?
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,079
    Of my three jabs, I'd rank efficiency in the following order
    1. GP group
    2. Pharmacy
    3. NHS vaccination site

    Third place was a long way behind.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    edited December 2021
    pangolin said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Booster booked for dec 23 👍🏻👍🏻

    It's still officially over 40s right? Does the site let you do it anyway?
    So I have a friend of a friend who is fairly systematic about checking.

    The site refused to let me book until about 16:30 or so.

    Presumably if it’s like last time they’ll announce Sunday morning.

    I checked the “not vulnerable/not important” boxes so I wasn’t gaming the system
    _
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    My London friends have it booked for *tomorrow* having gone to the site this evening.
    _
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,666
    rick_chasey said:

    My London friends have it booked for *tomorrow* having gone to the site this evening.

    Booked for next Sat
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • mully79
    mully79 Posts: 904
    focuszing723 said:

    Pross said:

    pblakeney said:

    Pross said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Booster booked for dec 23 👍🏻👍🏻

    I feel I need to start having a reverse rant now considering how you were moaning about how long your original jabs took. I had my second in June and still waiting on a letter for my booster.
    Can't you just phone or book online?
    Being proactive this time round seems to get quicker appointments.
    Nope, Welsh NHS doesn't allow it. They seemed to be quicker on the initial jabs but seems to be taking longer this time. Could be they are getting more people having it I suppose. Wife and daughter were both done quickly but they were in the first group.

    If you are fit and healthy and have no medical history, does it matter? Be patient and wait your turn knowing the people who require it before you are getting it (considered more vulnerable).
    We have to wait because people who live in England are all more deserving !
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,183
    mully79 said:

    focuszing723 said:

    Pross said:

    pblakeney said:

    Pross said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Booster booked for dec 23 👍🏻👍🏻

    I feel I need to start having a reverse rant now considering how you were moaning about how long your original jabs took. I had my second in June and still waiting on a letter for my booster.
    Can't you just phone or book online?
    Being proactive this time round seems to get quicker appointments.
    Nope, Welsh NHS doesn't allow it. They seemed to be quicker on the initial jabs but seems to be taking longer this time. Could be they are getting more people having it I suppose. Wife and daughter were both done quickly but they were in the first group.

    If you are fit and healthy and have no medical history, does it matter? Be patient and wait your turn knowing the people who require it before you are getting it (considered more vulnerable).
    We have to wait because people who live in England are all more deserving !
    I thought Pross said Wales were ahead of the game with the first two jabs and when you say England at the moment people are talking about London.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,666
    focuszing723 said:

    mully79 said:

    focuszing723 said:

    Pross said:

    pblakeney said:

    Pross said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Booster booked for dec 23 👍🏻👍🏻

    I feel I need to start having a reverse rant now considering how you were moaning about how long your original jabs took. I had my second in June and still waiting on a letter for my booster.
    Can't you just phone or book online?
    Being proactive this time round seems to get quicker appointments.
    Nope, Welsh NHS doesn't allow it. They seemed to be quicker on the initial jabs but seems to be taking longer this time. Could be they are getting more people having it I suppose. Wife and daughter were both done quickly but they were in the first group.

    If you are fit and healthy and have no medical history, does it matter? Be patient and wait your turn knowing the people who require it before you are getting it (considered more vulnerable).
    We have to wait because people who live in England are all more deserving !
    I thought Pross said Wales were ahead of the game with the first two jabs and when you say England at the moment people are talking about London.
    Mine's Bristol
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,183
    pangolin said:

    focuszing723 said:

    mully79 said:

    focuszing723 said:

    Pross said:

    pblakeney said:

    Pross said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Booster booked for dec 23 👍🏻👍🏻

    I feel I need to start having a reverse rant now considering how you were moaning about how long your original jabs took. I had my second in June and still waiting on a letter for my booster.
    Can't you just phone or book online?
    Being proactive this time round seems to get quicker appointments.
    Nope, Welsh NHS doesn't allow it. They seemed to be quicker on the initial jabs but seems to be taking longer this time. Could be they are getting more people having it I suppose. Wife and daughter were both done quickly but they were in the first group.

    If you are fit and healthy and have no medical history, does it matter? Be patient and wait your turn knowing the people who require it before you are getting it (considered more vulnerable).
    We have to wait because people who live in England are all more deserving !
    I thought Pross said Wales were ahead of the game with the first two jabs and when you say England at the moment people are talking about London.
    Mine's Bristol
    Christ! Couldn't you have just said London to backup my point?
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,666
    focuszing723 said:

    pangolin said:

    focuszing723 said:

    mully79 said:

    focuszing723 said:

    Pross said:

    pblakeney said:

    Pross said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Booster booked for dec 23 👍🏻👍🏻

    I feel I need to start having a reverse rant now considering how you were moaning about how long your original jabs took. I had my second in June and still waiting on a letter for my booster.
    Can't you just phone or book online?
    Being proactive this time round seems to get quicker appointments.
    Nope, Welsh NHS doesn't allow it. They seemed to be quicker on the initial jabs but seems to be taking longer this time. Could be they are getting more people having it I suppose. Wife and daughter were both done quickly but they were in the first group.

    If you are fit and healthy and have no medical history, does it matter? Be patient and wait your turn knowing the people who require it before you are getting it (considered more vulnerable).
    We have to wait because people who live in England are all more deserving !
    I thought Pross said Wales were ahead of the game with the first two jabs and when you say England at the moment people are talking about London.
    Mine's Bristol
    Christ! Couldn't you have just said London to backup my point?
    Sorry, Bristol on Thames
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,183
    pangolin said:

    focuszing723 said:

    pangolin said:

    focuszing723 said:

    mully79 said:

    focuszing723 said:

    Pross said:

    pblakeney said:

    Pross said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Booster booked for dec 23 👍🏻👍🏻

    I feel I need to start having a reverse rant now considering how you were moaning about how long your original jabs took. I had my second in June and still waiting on a letter for my booster.
    Can't you just phone or book online?
    Being proactive this time round seems to get quicker appointments.
    Nope, Welsh NHS doesn't allow it. They seemed to be quicker on the initial jabs but seems to be taking longer this time. Could be they are getting more people having it I suppose. Wife and daughter were both done quickly but they were in the first group.

    If you are fit and healthy and have no medical history, does it matter? Be patient and wait your turn knowing the people who require it before you are getting it (considered more vulnerable).
    We have to wait because people who live in England are all more deserving !
    I thought Pross said Wales were ahead of the game with the first two jabs and when you say England at the moment people are talking about London.
    Mine's Bristol
    Christ! Couldn't you have just said London to backup my point?
    Sorry, Bristol on Thames
    Yep, I knew it London!
  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498
    rick_chasey said:

    pangolin said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Booster booked for dec 23 👍🏻👍🏻

    It's still officially over 40s right? Does the site let you do it anyway?
    So I have a friend of a friend who is fairly systematic about checking.

    The site refused to let me book until about 16:30 or so.

    Presumably if it’s like last time they’ll announce Sunday morning.

    I checked the “not vulnerable/not important” boxes so I wasn’t gaming the system
    Thanks for the heads up. Booked my booster for Tuesday.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,183
    skyblueamateur said:

    rick_chasey said:

    pangolin said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Booster booked for dec 23 👍🏻👍🏻

    It's still officially over 40s right? Does the site let you do it anyway?
    So I have a friend of a friend who is fairly systematic about checking.

    The site refused to let me book until about 16:30 or so.

    Presumably if it’s like last time they’ll announce Sunday morning.

    I checked the “not vulnerable/not important” boxes so I wasn’t gaming the system
    Thanks for the heads up. Booked my booster for Tuesday.
    Do you live in London?
  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498
    focuszing723 said:

    skyblueamateur said:

    rick_chasey said:

    pangolin said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Booster booked for dec 23 👍🏻👍🏻

    It's still officially over 40s right? Does the site let you do it anyway?
    So I have a friend of a friend who is fairly systematic about checking.

    The site refused to let me book until about 16:30 or so.

    Presumably if it’s like last time they’ll announce Sunday morning.

    I checked the “not vulnerable/not important” boxes so I wasn’t gaming the system
    Thanks for the heads up. Booked my booster for Tuesday.
    Do you live in London?
    Coventry
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,183
    skyblueamateur said:

    focuszing723 said:

    skyblueamateur said:

    rick_chasey said:

    pangolin said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Booster booked for dec 23 👍🏻👍🏻

    It's still officially over 40s right? Does the site let you do it anyway?
    So I have a friend of a friend who is fairly systematic about checking.

    The site refused to let me book until about 16:30 or so.

    Presumably if it’s like last time they’ll announce Sunday morning.

    I checked the “not vulnerable/not important” boxes so I wasn’t gaming the system
    Thanks for the heads up. Booked my booster for Tuesday.
    Do you live in London?
    Coventry
    Sh1t!
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,465
    Ncovidius said:

    kingstongraham said:



    Bad. Especially for us in the middle who had AZ.

    Hopefully the news for serious disease will be better.

    So booster ASAP.
    It’s no surprise. Viral vector vaccines historically don’t work against human coronaviruses. It’s the main reason why there’s never been an effective vaccine against the ‘common cold’. ‘Common cold’ is an umbrella term for symptoms caused by a ‘soup’ of viruses ( rhinoviruses, adenoviruses ) and crucially, a coronavirus relic from the Spanish flu. It’s this component that has traditionally made it impossible to vaccinate people against the ‘common cold’ using viral vector vaccines. The new mRNA type vaccines have not previously been licensed for use in humans, and it seems that they do have some effect against human coronaviruses.
    You are a moron.

    There have historically been no vaccines for coronaviruses.

  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,465
    Pross said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Booster booked for dec 23 👍🏻👍🏻

    I feel I need to start having a reverse rant now considering how you were moaning about how long your original jabs took. I had my second in June and still waiting on a letter for my booster.
    If you are over 40 can you not just drop in?

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