The big Coronavirus thread
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How much bog roll do you need to last a month per person?0
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Whereabouts are you? I have a garage full and am getting worried about the use by date.focuszing723 said:How much bog roll do you need to last a month per person?
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Hold on to it, that could be worth a tenner a roll soon. I will just go Roman stylee like last time and use a sponge on a stick.surrey_commuter said:
Whereabouts are you? I have a garage full and am getting worried about the use by date.focuszing723 said:How much bog roll do you need to last a month per person?
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surrey_commuter said:
Whereabouts are you? I have a garage full and am getting worried about the use by date.focuszing723 said:How much bog roll do you need to last a month per person?
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Can I recommend the Westminster Insider podcast for a good discussion on how prepared we'd be for the next pandemic
One interesting point made, which I hadn't considered before, was if the first version of Covid19 had been the same as the Delta variant, we would have had a huge problem“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Im going through the waiting to find out if Ive got it phase after working closely with someone for 40 minutes who is now positive.
I have no idea how likely it is that ive got it as they had no symptoms so I assume not shedding large amounts of virus.0 -
A decapitated swan is better.focuszing723 said:
Hold on to it, that could be worth a tenner a roll soon. I will just go Roman stylee like last time and use a sponge on a stick.surrey_commuter said:
Whereabouts are you? I have a garage full and am getting worried about the use by date.focuszing723 said:How much bog roll do you need to last a month per person?
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Dorset_Boy said:
France has changed it's Pass Sanitaire rules today.
Among changes are that they must all have their booster between 5 and 7 months after their second jab or the PS will become invalid.
Single (or non) jabbed will have to do daily LFR or PCR tests to access the PS.
So effectively a social lockdown has been enforced for those not fully vaccinated.
It's going to cause big problems for those with 12-15 year olds planning to ski (or holiday) in France over Christmas and New Year.
I’m hoping that 12-15 year olds start getting a 2nd jab starting from January, which would allow me to take my sons to France in early Feb.0 -
You didn't actually believe that would happen did you?TheBigBean said:
The deaths trail the infections, so as infections were declining a few weeks ago, deaths are now declining. I would expect them to pick up again soon.briantrumpet said:Given the UK's tacit 'Let it rip' policy, these two together do give at least some cause for optimism here, as the death toll still edges downwards daily with still high levels of infection. More by luck than design, I suspect, but...
The hope that UK cases would drop rapidly in November is fading.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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The science behind it was reasonable, but far from certain, so I guess I believed it was a possibility.rjsterry said:
You didn't actually believe that would happen did you?TheBigBean said:
The deaths trail the infections, so as infections were declining a few weeks ago, deaths are now declining. I would expect them to pick up again soon.briantrumpet said:Given the UK's tacit 'Let it rip' policy, these two together do give at least some cause for optimism here, as the death toll still edges downwards daily with still high levels of infection. More by luck than design, I suspect, but...
The hope that UK cases would drop rapidly in November is fading.0 -
I wonder what the trend will be. Apart from a short space of time when daily cases dropped to 35,000 or so, we’ve been in the 40-50k range for what feels like ages. Will we just keep at that level for the foreseeable future, or will we start to see a slow decline? Or heaven forbid, case numbers climbing?0
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New variant will almost certainly be here so all bets are off at this point.kingstonian said:I wonder what the trend will be. Apart from a short space of time when daily cases dropped to 35,000 or so, we’ve been in the 40-50k range for what feels like ages. Will we just keep at that level for the foreseeable future, or will we start to see a slow decline? Or heaven forbid, case numbers climbing?
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Will be interesting to follow the progress - or otherwise - of the Belgian omicron patient, who apparently developed symptoms on Nov 22. I wonder if we'll get to hear. Apparently, she was un-vaxed too..0
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rick_chasey said:
New variant will almost certainly be here so all bets are off at this point.kingstonian said:I wonder what the trend will be. Apart from a short space of time when daily cases dropped to 35,000 or so, we’ve been in the 40-50k range for what feels like ages. Will we just keep at that level for the foreseeable future, or will we start to see a slow decline? Or heaven forbid, case numbers climbing?
Even if it is the it's-only-like-the-flu Telegraph, maybe a little reassurance for Captain Mainwaring from Corporal Whitty.
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All, as in all, of the lots of bars and restaurants I've been in today (yesterday as typing this) in Ieper and Poperinge in Westvlaanderen Belgium have scanned vaccination pass on entry, else get tae f if not vacced. Covid Safe Ticket pass in Belgium, but e.g. NHS vaccination travel pass QR code works as well for us furrins.
Mandatory face masks while moving about indoors plus 80% of people walking about outside also wearing masks.
Time to implement similar in dUK? You choose not to vaccinate so putting yourself but more importantly others at risk? Fine, your choice. But it means you don't get to behave like it doesn't matter.0 -
But that's an infringement of my civil liberties. Police state etc.orraloon said:All, as in all, of the lots of bars and restaurants I've been in today (yesterday as typing this) in Ieper and Poperinge in Westvlaanderen Belgium have scanned vaccination pass on entry, else get tae f if not vacced. Covid Safe Ticket pass in Belgium, but e.g. NHS vaccination travel pass QR code works as well for us furrins.
Mandatory face masks while moving about indoors plus 80% of people walking about outside also wearing masks.
Time to implement similar in dUK? You choose not to vaccinate so putting yourself but more importantly others at risk? Fine, your choice. But it means you don't get to behave like it doesn't matter.
Covid passes are needed for cinemas and theatres here in Wales and I suspect they'll be needed for hospitality soon. A cinema in Swansea got shut down yesterday after refusing to implement the Covid pass as it is 'unfair'. I assume people getting ill and dying is fairness.
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What about driving a motor vehicle while drunk? Not allowed, illegal, given the risks to self but more importantly others. Is that an infringement of civil liberty in a police state? Maybe a small % of knuckle draggers might feel that it is. Vast majority agree that it is sensible and correct.
So translate to vaccination against a high impact disease....0 -
Definitely time to crank up the restrictions IMO.
As for those choosing to not take the vaccine, let them continue to do so in the knowledge their freedoms are going to be more and more restricted. They’ve made their point, now get on board.0 -
orraloon said:
What about driving a motor vehicle while drunk? Not allowed, illegal, given the risks to self but more importantly others. Is that an infringement of civil liberty in a police state? Maybe a small % of knuckle draggers might feel that it is. Vast majority agree that it is sensible and correct.
So translate to vaccination against a high impact disease....
Doesn't the Second Amendment give everyone the right to spread diseases?0 -
Couldn't agree more but that's the claim you always get from selfish twunts who refuse to get vaccinated but want to continue doing everything they did pre-pandemic. They also often suggest it is those who are vulnerable who should live a hermit lifestyle even if they have got themselves vaccinated.orraloon said:What about driving a motor vehicle while drunk? Not allowed, illegal, given the risks to self but more importantly others. Is that an infringement of civil liberty in a police state? Maybe a small % of knuckle draggers might feel that it is. Vast majority agree that it is sensible and correct.
So translate to vaccination against a high impact disease....0 -
What he's quoted as saying has a slightly different tone:briantrumpet said:rick_chasey said:
New variant will almost certainly be here so all bets are off at this point.kingstonian said:I wonder what the trend will be. Apart from a short space of time when daily cases dropped to 35,000 or so, we’ve been in the 40-50k range for what feels like ages. Will we just keep at that level for the foreseeable future, or will we start to see a slow decline? Or heaven forbid, case numbers climbing?
Even if it is the it's-only-like-the-flu Telegraph, maybe a little reassurance for Captain Mainwaring from Corporal Whitty.
"Prof Whitty said he was more concerned about the risks posed by existing variants, describing the delta epidemic as "undoubtedly the principal thing we need to concern ourselves with between now and Christmas"."
And that the precautionary measures are appropriate.
As panicking is very rarely the right response to anything I say we shouldn't panic.0 -
Crank up restrictions because of the new variant?kingstonian said:Definitely time to crank up the restrictions IMO.
As for those choosing to not take the vaccine, let them continue to do so in the knowledge their freedoms are going to be more and more restricted. They’ve made their point, now get on board.
Depending on what restrictions were cranked up now it could suggest that some of the anti vaxers had a bit of a point..."y'all got injected with a experimental drug for nuffink"
I'm torn on restrictions for the unvaccinated, although I'm increasingly finding the histrionics on the part of the anti vaxers tiresome...
"I don't know what's in it" says the person happy to eat endless ready meals, breathe in whatever shiit is in airfresherner and generally benefit from ever other part of completely un natural modern life.0 -
kingstongraham said:
What he's quoted as saying has a slightly different tone:briantrumpet said:rick_chasey said:
New variant will almost certainly be here so all bets are off at this point.kingstonian said:I wonder what the trend will be. Apart from a short space of time when daily cases dropped to 35,000 or so, we’ve been in the 40-50k range for what feels like ages. Will we just keep at that level for the foreseeable future, or will we start to see a slow decline? Or heaven forbid, case numbers climbing?
Even if it is the it's-only-like-the-flu Telegraph, maybe a little reassurance for Captain Mainwaring from Corporal Whitty.
"Prof Whitty said he was more concerned about the risks posed by existing variants, describing the delta epidemic as "undoubtedly the principal thing we need to concern ourselves with between now and Christmas"."
And that the precautionary measures are appropriate.
As panicking is very rarely the right response to anything I say we shouldn't panic.
As far as Telegraph headlines go, this isn't too far off the mark though, and it's not been used to justify a two-week delay in doing something sensible. With this variant, it does feel like there's more of a convergence of international responses rather than grandstanding.
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Jezyboy said:
I'm torn on restrictions for the unvaccinated, although I'm increasingly finding the histrionics on the part of the anti vaxers tiresome...
I knew it would provoke one or two when I posted on the community FB Group about the very high local rates ( >1000/100k), just mentioning that people might like to be aware, and that people could book their japs at the local site via the web. Sure as eggs is eggs, one reply started politely, but saying that "most people in hospital with covid are vaccinated", "Vaccines working then?", then the inevitable "98.6% of people recover".0 -
The press is doing the inevitable 'Find the Omicron cases in Europe' now. But don't panic...0
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I hope you pointed out that if 80% of people are vaccinated it stands to reason the majority in hospital are vaccinated but that if, say, 40% of those in hospital are unvaccinated then they are over-represented. I'd also be asking what percentage of the 1.4% who don't recover are vaccinated.briantrumpet said:Jezyboy said:
I'm torn on restrictions for the unvaccinated, although I'm increasingly finding the histrionics on the part of the anti vaxers tiresome...
I knew it would provoke one or two when I posted on the community FB Group about the very high local rates ( >1000/100k), just mentioning that people might like to be aware, and that people could book their japs at the local site via the web. Sure as eggs is eggs, one reply started politely, but saying that "most people in hospital with covid are vaccinated", "Vaccines working then?", then the inevitable "98.6% of people recover".0 -
It's going to be omnipresent before we know it.0
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Bit disappointed they didn't call it the Nu variant. Worked well.- Genesis Croix de Fer
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If roughly 30% of our UK population is not vaccinated (including kids etc) thats still a hell of a lot of people to carry on the infection.
At 50k infections a day its still going to take 12 months to infect them all.0 -
I think the next two were Nu which has a large potential for confusion and Xi, which I guess wouldn't have pleased the Chinese. So Omicron it is.pangolin said:Bit disappointed they didn't call it the Nu variant. Worked well.
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