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rick_chasey said:
As in, you are surprised Klopp understands the cost to others for not being vaccinated?joe2019 said:Jurgen Klopp says refusing vaccine is like drink-driving as it endangers others.
The level of understanding is astonishing.
As in, I'm surprised that he thinks the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated.0 -
There was a discussion on Football Weekly podcast about how some clubs inc Liverpool, Leeds had most of their players vaccinated while other PL sides would appear to rife with the conspiracy theory BS. Then there's the upcoming international break with kickballers spreading around the world inc red zone countries. But PL moneyballers ain't Joe Public so it'll all be fine, no worries.0
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They are a danger to those who are unable to be vaccinated for medical reasons, they're a danger to vulnerable people.joe2019 said:rick_chasey said:
As in, you are surprised Klopp understands the cost to others for not being vaccinated?joe2019 said:Jurgen Klopp says refusing vaccine is like drink-driving as it endangers others.
The level of understanding is astonishing.
As in, I'm surprised that he thinks the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated.1 -
elbowloh said:
They are a danger to those who are unable to be vaccinated for medical reasons, they're a danger to vulnerable people.joe2019 said:rick_chasey said:
As in, you are surprised Klopp understands the cost to others for not being vaccinated?joe2019 said:Jurgen Klopp says refusing vaccine is like drink-driving as it endangers others.
The level of understanding is astonishing.
As in, I'm surprised that he thinks the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated.
Agreed, but then so are the vaccinated, who can still catch and spread Covid.
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They are a danger to everyone who has been vaccinated, just less so than they are to each other.elbowloh said:
They are a danger to those who are unable to be vaccinated for medical reasons, they're a danger to vulnerable people.joe2019 said:rick_chasey said:
As in, you are surprised Klopp understands the cost to others for not being vaccinated?joe2019 said:Jurgen Klopp says refusing vaccine is like drink-driving as it endangers others.
The level of understanding is astonishing.
As in, I'm surprised that he thinks the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated.0 -
First.Aspect said:
They are a danger to everyone who has been vaccinated, just less so than they are to each other.elbowloh said:
They are a danger to those who are unable to be vaccinated for medical reasons, they're a danger to vulnerable people.joe2019 said:rick_chasey said:
As in, you are surprised Klopp understands the cost to others for not being vaccinated?joe2019 said:Jurgen Klopp says refusing vaccine is like drink-driving as it endangers others.
The level of understanding is astonishing.
As in, I'm surprised that he thinks the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated.
So, everyone is a danger to everyone... just less so to the vaccinated.
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You have always been one of the tin hat brigade when it comes to the vaccine.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
They are a danger to everyone who has been vaccinated, just less so than they are to each other.elbowloh said:
They are a danger to those who are unable to be vaccinated for medical reasons, they're a danger to vulnerable people.joe2019 said:rick_chasey said:
As in, you are surprised Klopp understands the cost to others for not being vaccinated?joe2019 said:Jurgen Klopp says refusing vaccine is like drink-driving as it endangers others.
The level of understanding is astonishing.
As in, I'm surprised that he thinks the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated.
So, everyone is a danger to everyone... just less so to the vaccinated.1 -
Yes, it is nice and simple and Jürgen is correct. We are all potentially dangerous to other road users, but some actions or inactions can make is knowingly more dangerous.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
They are a danger to everyone who has been vaccinated, just less so than they are to each other.elbowloh said:
They are a danger to those who are unable to be vaccinated for medical reasons, they're a danger to vulnerable people.joe2019 said:rick_chasey said:
As in, you are surprised Klopp understands the cost to others for not being vaccinated?joe2019 said:Jurgen Klopp says refusing vaccine is like drink-driving as it endangers others.
The level of understanding is astonishing.
As in, I'm surprised that he thinks the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated.
So, everyone is a danger to everyone... just less so to the vaccinated.
Would an analogy with two beans and another two beans be more useful?
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And masks, although he admitted he was intentionally winding people up about that so don't waste too much time arguing about vaccines.webboo said:
You have always been one of the tin hat brigade when it comes to the vaccine.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
They are a danger to everyone who has been vaccinated, just less so than they are to each other.elbowloh said:
They are a danger to those who are unable to be vaccinated for medical reasons, they're a danger to vulnerable people.joe2019 said:rick_chasey said:
As in, you are surprised Klopp understands the cost to others for not being vaccinated?joe2019 said:Jurgen Klopp says refusing vaccine is like drink-driving as it endangers others.
The level of understanding is astonishing.
As in, I'm surprised that he thinks the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated.
So, everyone is a danger to everyone... just less so to the vaccinated.- Genesis Croix de Fer
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First.Aspect said:
Yes, it is nice and simple and Jürgen is correct. We are all potentially dangerous to other road users, but some actions or inactions can make is knowingly more dangerous.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
They are a danger to everyone who has been vaccinated, just less so than they are to each other.elbowloh said:
They are a danger to those who are unable to be vaccinated for medical reasons, they're a danger to vulnerable people.joe2019 said:rick_chasey said:
As in, you are surprised Klopp understands the cost to others for not being vaccinated?joe2019 said:Jurgen Klopp says refusing vaccine is like drink-driving as it endangers others.
The level of understanding is astonishing.
As in, I'm surprised that he thinks the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated.
So, everyone is a danger to everyone... just less so to the vaccinated.
Would an analogy with two beans and another two beans be more useful?
But being unvaccinated doesn't make it more anymore dangerous for others does it... it simply makes it more dangerous for themselves.
As for Jürgen, comparing it to drink driving is full-on scaremongering.
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webboo said:
You have always been one of the tin hat brigade when it comes to the vaccine.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
They are a danger to everyone who has been vaccinated, just less so than they are to each other.elbowloh said:
They are a danger to those who are unable to be vaccinated for medical reasons, they're a danger to vulnerable people.joe2019 said:rick_chasey said:
As in, you are surprised Klopp understands the cost to others for not being vaccinated?joe2019 said:Jurgen Klopp says refusing vaccine is like drink-driving as it endangers others.
The level of understanding is astonishing.
As in, I'm surprised that he thinks the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated.
So, everyone is a danger to everyone... just less so to the vaccinated.
I am fully vaccinated.
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No, I'm afraid being unvaccinated does make you more more likely to be more dangerous to others, both in terms of likelihood of infection and potential viral load.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
Yes, it is nice and simple and Jürgen is correct. We are all potentially dangerous to other road users, but some actions or inactions can make is knowingly more dangerous.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
They are a danger to everyone who has been vaccinated, just less so than they are to each other.elbowloh said:
They are a danger to those who are unable to be vaccinated for medical reasons, they're a danger to vulnerable people.joe2019 said:rick_chasey said:
As in, you are surprised Klopp understands the cost to others for not being vaccinated?joe2019 said:Jurgen Klopp says refusing vaccine is like drink-driving as it endangers others.
The level of understanding is astonishing.
As in, I'm surprised that he thinks the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated.
So, everyone is a danger to everyone... just less so to the vaccinated.
Would an analogy with two beans and another two beans be more useful?
But being unvaccinated doesn't make it more anymore dangerous for others does it... it simply makes it more dangerous for themselves.
As for Jürgen, comparing it to drink driving is full-on scaremongering.
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First.Aspect said:
No, I'm afraid being unvaccinated does make you more more likely to be more dangerous to others, both in terms of likelihood of infection and potential viral load.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
Yes, it is nice and simple and Jürgen is correct. We are all potentially dangerous to other road users, but some actions or inactions can make is knowingly more dangerous.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
They are a danger to everyone who has been vaccinated, just less so than they are to each other.elbowloh said:
They are a danger to those who are unable to be vaccinated for medical reasons, they're a danger to vulnerable people.joe2019 said:rick_chasey said:
As in, you are surprised Klopp understands the cost to others for not being vaccinated?joe2019 said:Jurgen Klopp says refusing vaccine is like drink-driving as it endangers others.
The level of understanding is astonishing.
As in, I'm surprised that he thinks the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated.
So, everyone is a danger to everyone... just less so to the vaccinated.
Would an analogy with two beans and another two beans be more useful?
But being unvaccinated doesn't make it more anymore dangerous for others does it... it simply makes it more dangerous for themselves.
As for Jürgen, comparing it to drink driving is full-on scaremongering.
Have you got to bring science into this?0 -
I'm amazed this even needs explaining.0
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Sorry.briantrumpet said:First.Aspect said:
No, I'm afraid being unvaccinated does make you more more likely to be more dangerous to others, both in terms of likelihood of infection and potential viral load.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
Yes, it is nice and simple and Jürgen is correct. We are all potentially dangerous to other road users, but some actions or inactions can make is knowingly more dangerous.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
They are a danger to everyone who has been vaccinated, just less so than they are to each other.elbowloh said:
They are a danger to those who are unable to be vaccinated for medical reasons, they're a danger to vulnerable people.joe2019 said:rick_chasey said:
As in, you are surprised Klopp understands the cost to others for not being vaccinated?joe2019 said:Jurgen Klopp says refusing vaccine is like drink-driving as it endangers others.
The level of understanding is astonishing.
As in, I'm surprised that he thinks the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated.
So, everyone is a danger to everyone... just less so to the vaccinated.
Would an analogy with two beans and another two beans be more useful?
But being unvaccinated doesn't make it more anymore dangerous for others does it... it simply makes it more dangerous for themselves.
As for Jürgen, comparing it to drink driving is full-on scaremongering.
Have you got to bring science into this?
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That just shows you had one.joe2019 said:webboo said:
You have always been one of the tin hat brigade when it comes to the vaccine.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
They are a danger to everyone who has been vaccinated, just less so than they are to each other.elbowloh said:
They are a danger to those who are unable to be vaccinated for medical reasons, they're a danger to vulnerable people.joe2019 said:rick_chasey said:
As in, you are surprised Klopp understands the cost to others for not being vaccinated?joe2019 said:Jurgen Klopp says refusing vaccine is like drink-driving as it endangers others.
The level of understanding is astonishing.
As in, I'm surprised that he thinks the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated.
So, everyone is a danger to everyone... just less so to the vaccinated.
I am fully vaccinated.
How you wittered on about it. You and your missus were not going to have a second AZ jab because it had been suspended in the EU.
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First.Aspect said:
No, I'm afraid being unvaccinated does make you more more likely to be more dangerous to others, both in terms of likelihood of infection and potential viral load.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
Yes, it is nice and simple and Jürgen is correct. We are all potentially dangerous to other road users, but some actions or inactions can make is knowingly more dangerous.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
They are a danger to everyone who has been vaccinated, just less so than they are to each other.elbowloh said:
They are a danger to those who are unable to be vaccinated for medical reasons, they're a danger to vulnerable people.joe2019 said:rick_chasey said:
As in, you are surprised Klopp understands the cost to others for not being vaccinated?joe2019 said:Jurgen Klopp says refusing vaccine is like drink-driving as it endangers others.
The level of understanding is astonishing.
As in, I'm surprised that he thinks the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated.
So, everyone is a danger to everyone... just less so to the vaccinated.
Would an analogy with two beans and another two beans be more useful?
But being unvaccinated doesn't make it more anymore dangerous for others does it... it simply makes it more dangerous for themselves.
As for Jürgen, comparing it to drink driving is full-on scaremongering.
"Data from COVID-19 tests in the United States, the United Kingdom and Singapore are showing that vaccinated people who become infected with Delta SARS-CoV-2 can carry as much virus in their nose as do unvaccinated people."
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? Want a contradicting quote from a more recent study, so we can have a quotation battle?joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
No, I'm afraid being unvaccinated does make you more more likely to be more dangerous to others, both in terms of likelihood of infection and potential viral load.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
Yes, it is nice and simple and Jürgen is correct. We are all potentially dangerous to other road users, but some actions or inactions can make is knowingly more dangerous.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
They are a danger to everyone who has been vaccinated, just less so than they are to each other.elbowloh said:
They are a danger to those who are unable to be vaccinated for medical reasons, they're a danger to vulnerable people.joe2019 said:rick_chasey said:
As in, you are surprised Klopp understands the cost to others for not being vaccinated?joe2019 said:Jurgen Klopp says refusing vaccine is like drink-driving as it endangers others.
The level of understanding is astonishing.
As in, I'm surprised that he thinks the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated.
So, everyone is a danger to everyone... just less so to the vaccinated.
Would an analogy with two beans and another two beans be more useful?
But being unvaccinated doesn't make it more anymore dangerous for others does it... it simply makes it more dangerous for themselves.
As for Jürgen, comparing it to drink driving is full-on scaremongering.
"Data from COVID-19 tests in the United States, the United Kingdom and Singapore are showing that vaccinated people who become infected with Delta SARS-CoV-2 can carry as much virus in their nose as do unvaccinated people."0 -
webboo said:
That just shows you had one.joe2019 said:webboo said:
You have always been one of the tin hat brigade when it comes to the vaccine.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
They are a danger to everyone who has been vaccinated, just less so than they are to each other.elbowloh said:
They are a danger to those who are unable to be vaccinated for medical reasons, they're a danger to vulnerable people.joe2019 said:rick_chasey said:
As in, you are surprised Klopp understands the cost to others for not being vaccinated?joe2019 said:Jurgen Klopp says refusing vaccine is like drink-driving as it endangers others.
The level of understanding is astonishing.
As in, I'm surprised that he thinks the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated.
So, everyone is a danger to everyone... just less so to the vaccinated.
I am fully vaccinated.
How you wittered on about it. You and your missus were not going to have a second AZ jab because it had been suspended in the EU.
Had one?
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One jab.0
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First.Aspect said:
? Want a contradicting quote from a more recent study, so we can have a quotation battle?joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
No, I'm afraid being unvaccinated does make you more more likely to be more dangerous to others, both in terms of likelihood of infection and potential viral load.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
Yes, it is nice and simple and Jürgen is correct. We are all potentially dangerous to other road users, but some actions or inactions can make is knowingly more dangerous.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
They are a danger to everyone who has been vaccinated, just less so than they are to each other.elbowloh said:
They are a danger to those who are unable to be vaccinated for medical reasons, they're a danger to vulnerable people.joe2019 said:rick_chasey said:
As in, you are surprised Klopp understands the cost to others for not being vaccinated?joe2019 said:Jurgen Klopp says refusing vaccine is like drink-driving as it endangers others.
The level of understanding is astonishing.
As in, I'm surprised that he thinks the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated.
So, everyone is a danger to everyone... just less so to the vaccinated.
Would an analogy with two beans and another two beans be more useful?
But being unvaccinated doesn't make it more anymore dangerous for others does it... it simply makes it more dangerous for themselves.
As for Jürgen, comparing it to drink driving is full-on scaremongering.
"Data from COVID-19 tests in the United States, the United Kingdom and Singapore are showing that vaccinated people who become infected with Delta SARS-CoV-2 can carry as much virus in their nose as do unvaccinated people."
That would be fun.
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Oh goody. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/vaccinated-people-are-less-likely-spread-covid-new-research-finds-n1280583joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
? Want a contradicting quote from a more recent study, so we can have a quotation battle?joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
No, I'm afraid being unvaccinated does make you more more likely to be more dangerous to others, both in terms of likelihood of infection and potential viral load.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
Yes, it is nice and simple and Jürgen is correct. We are all potentially dangerous to other road users, but some actions or inactions can make is knowingly more dangerous.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
They are a danger to everyone who has been vaccinated, just less so than they are to each other.elbowloh said:
They are a danger to those who are unable to be vaccinated for medical reasons, they're a danger to vulnerable people.joe2019 said:rick_chasey said:
As in, you are surprised Klopp understands the cost to others for not being vaccinated?joe2019 said:Jurgen Klopp says refusing vaccine is like drink-driving as it endangers others.
The level of understanding is astonishing.
As in, I'm surprised that he thinks the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated.
So, everyone is a danger to everyone... just less so to the vaccinated.
Would an analogy with two beans and another two beans be more useful?
But being unvaccinated doesn't make it more anymore dangerous for others does it... it simply makes it more dangerous for themselves.
As for Jürgen, comparing it to drink driving is full-on scaremongering.
"Data from COVID-19 tests in the United States, the United Kingdom and Singapore are showing that vaccinated people who become infected with Delta SARS-CoV-2 can carry as much virus in their nose as do unvaccinated people."
That would be fun.2 -
First.Aspect said:
Oh goody. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/vaccinated-people-are-less-likely-spread-covid-new-research-finds-n1280583joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
? Want a contradicting quote from a more recent study, so we can have a quotation battle?joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
No, I'm afraid being unvaccinated does make you more more likely to be more dangerous to others, both in terms of likelihood of infection and potential viral load.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
Yes, it is nice and simple and Jürgen is correct. We are all potentially dangerous to other road users, but some actions or inactions can make is knowingly more dangerous.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
They are a danger to everyone who has been vaccinated, just less so than they are to each other.elbowloh said:
They are a danger to those who are unable to be vaccinated for medical reasons, they're a danger to vulnerable people.joe2019 said:rick_chasey said:
As in, you are surprised Klopp understands the cost to others for not being vaccinated?joe2019 said:Jurgen Klopp says refusing vaccine is like drink-driving as it endangers others.
The level of understanding is astonishing.
As in, I'm surprised that he thinks the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated.
So, everyone is a danger to everyone... just less so to the vaccinated.
Would an analogy with two beans and another two beans be more useful?
But being unvaccinated doesn't make it more anymore dangerous for others does it... it simply makes it more dangerous for themselves.
As for Jürgen, comparing it to drink driving is full-on scaremongering.
"Data from COVID-19 tests in the United States, the United Kingdom and Singapore are showing that vaccinated people who become infected with Delta SARS-CoV-2 can carry as much virus in their nose as do unvaccinated people."
That would be fun.
Fair, but this study, which is yet to be peer reviewed, does suggest there is a similar level of viral load in unvaccinated and vaccinated people who were infected with the delta variant, backing up prior studies.
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That drops quickly, reducing transmission. Which contradicts your original thesis.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
Oh goody. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/vaccinated-people-are-less-likely-spread-covid-new-research-finds-n1280583joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
? Want a contradicting quote from a more recent study, so we can have a quotation battle?joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
No, I'm afraid being unvaccinated does make you more more likely to be more dangerous to others, both in terms of likelihood of infection and potential viral load.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
Yes, it is nice and simple and Jürgen is correct. We are all potentially dangerous to other road users, but some actions or inactions can make is knowingly more dangerous.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
They are a danger to everyone who has been vaccinated, just less so than they are to each other.elbowloh said:
They are a danger to those who are unable to be vaccinated for medical reasons, they're a danger to vulnerable people.joe2019 said:rick_chasey said:
As in, you are surprised Klopp understands the cost to others for not being vaccinated?joe2019 said:Jurgen Klopp says refusing vaccine is like drink-driving as it endangers others.
The level of understanding is astonishing.
As in, I'm surprised that he thinks the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated.
So, everyone is a danger to everyone... just less so to the vaccinated.
Would an analogy with two beans and another two beans be more useful?
But being unvaccinated doesn't make it more anymore dangerous for others does it... it simply makes it more dangerous for themselves.
As for Jürgen, comparing it to drink driving is full-on scaremongering.
"Data from COVID-19 tests in the United States, the United Kingdom and Singapore are showing that vaccinated people who become infected with Delta SARS-CoV-2 can carry as much virus in their nose as do unvaccinated people."
That would be fun.
Fair, but this study, which is yet to be peer reviewed, does suggest there is a similar level of viral load in unvaccinated and vaccinated people who were infected with the delta variant, backing up prior studies.0 -
First.Aspect said:
That drops quickly, reducing transmission. Which contradicts your original thesis.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
Oh goody. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/vaccinated-people-are-less-likely-spread-covid-new-research-finds-n1280583joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
? Want a contradicting quote from a more recent study, so we can have a quotation battle?joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
No, I'm afraid being unvaccinated does make you more more likely to be more dangerous to others, both in terms of likelihood of infection and potential viral load.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
Yes, it is nice and simple and Jürgen is correct. We are all potentially dangerous to other road users, but some actions or inactions can make is knowingly more dangerous.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
They are a danger to everyone who has been vaccinated, just less so than they are to each other.elbowloh said:
They are a danger to those who are unable to be vaccinated for medical reasons, they're a danger to vulnerable people.joe2019 said:rick_chasey said:
As in, you are surprised Klopp understands the cost to others for not being vaccinated?joe2019 said:Jurgen Klopp says refusing vaccine is like drink-driving as it endangers others.
The level of understanding is astonishing.
As in, I'm surprised that he thinks the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated.
So, everyone is a danger to everyone... just less so to the vaccinated.
Would an analogy with two beans and another two beans be more useful?
But being unvaccinated doesn't make it more anymore dangerous for others does it... it simply makes it more dangerous for themselves.
As for Jürgen, comparing it to drink driving is full-on scaremongering.
"Data from COVID-19 tests in the United States, the United Kingdom and Singapore are showing that vaccinated people who become infected with Delta SARS-CoV-2 can carry as much virus in their nose as do unvaccinated people."
That would be fun.
Fair, but this study, which is yet to be peer reviewed, does suggest there is a similar level of viral load in unvaccinated and vaccinated people who were infected with the delta variant, backing up prior studies.
According to an unrefereed preprint, yes.
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First.Aspect said:
That drops quickly, reducing transmission. Which contradicts your original thesis.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
Oh goody. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/vaccinated-people-are-less-likely-spread-covid-new-research-finds-n1280583joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
? Want a contradicting quote from a more recent study, so we can have a quotation battle?joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
No, I'm afraid being unvaccinated does make you more more likely to be more dangerous to others, both in terms of likelihood of infection and potential viral load.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
Yes, it is nice and simple and Jürgen is correct. We are all potentially dangerous to other road users, but some actions or inactions can make is knowingly more dangerous.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
They are a danger to everyone who has been vaccinated, just less so than they are to each other.elbowloh said:
They are a danger to those who are unable to be vaccinated for medical reasons, they're a danger to vulnerable people.joe2019 said:rick_chasey said:
As in, you are surprised Klopp understands the cost to others for not being vaccinated?joe2019 said:Jurgen Klopp says refusing vaccine is like drink-driving as it endangers others.
The level of understanding is astonishing.
As in, I'm surprised that he thinks the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated.
So, everyone is a danger to everyone... just less so to the vaccinated.
Would an analogy with two beans and another two beans be more useful?
But being unvaccinated doesn't make it more anymore dangerous for others does it... it simply makes it more dangerous for themselves.
As for Jürgen, comparing it to drink driving is full-on scaremongering.
"Data from COVID-19 tests in the United States, the United Kingdom and Singapore are showing that vaccinated people who become infected with Delta SARS-CoV-2 can carry as much virus in their nose as do unvaccinated people."
That would be fun.
Fair, but this study, which is yet to be peer reviewed, does suggest there is a similar level of viral load in unvaccinated and vaccinated people who were infected with the delta variant, backing up prior studies.
Are you trying to tell us that a study involving 150,000 people and actual transmission patterns in the real world is more useful than one single-counting the nasal viral load of 900 people?0 -
Thick or ignorant?joe2019 said:rick_chasey said:
As in, you are surprised Klopp understands the cost to others for not being vaccinated?joe2019 said:Jurgen Klopp says refusing vaccine is like drink-driving as it endangers others.
The level of understanding is astonishing.
As in, I'm surprised that he thinks the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated.0 -
Yes those guys at Oxford can't be trusted with anything vaccine related, can they?joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
That drops quickly, reducing transmission. Which contradicts your original thesis.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
Oh goody. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/vaccinated-people-are-less-likely-spread-covid-new-research-finds-n1280583joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
? Want a contradicting quote from a more recent study, so we can have a quotation battle?joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
No, I'm afraid being unvaccinated does make you more more likely to be more dangerous to others, both in terms of likelihood of infection and potential viral load.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
Yes, it is nice and simple and Jürgen is correct. We are all potentially dangerous to other road users, but some actions or inactions can make is knowingly more dangerous.joe2019 said:First.Aspect said:
They are a danger to everyone who has been vaccinated, just less so than they are to each other.elbowloh said:
They are a danger to those who are unable to be vaccinated for medical reasons, they're a danger to vulnerable people.joe2019 said:rick_chasey said:
As in, you are surprised Klopp understands the cost to others for not being vaccinated?joe2019 said:Jurgen Klopp says refusing vaccine is like drink-driving as it endangers others.
The level of understanding is astonishing.
As in, I'm surprised that he thinks the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated.
So, everyone is a danger to everyone... just less so to the vaccinated.
Would an analogy with two beans and another two beans be more useful?
But being unvaccinated doesn't make it more anymore dangerous for others does it... it simply makes it more dangerous for themselves.
As for Jürgen, comparing it to drink driving is full-on scaremongering.
"Data from COVID-19 tests in the United States, the United Kingdom and Singapore are showing that vaccinated people who become infected with Delta SARS-CoV-2 can carry as much virus in their nose as do unvaccinated people."
That would be fun.
Fair, but this study, which is yet to be peer reviewed, does suggest there is a similar level of viral load in unvaccinated and vaccinated people who were infected with the delta variant, backing up prior studies.
According to an unrefereed preprint, yes.0
