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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,821
    I've been on the priority list so getting a flu jab since having chemo about 15 years back. I think it was 4 or 5 years ago I was offered pneumonia, so before 50 but jumping the queue by virtue of being on the list. Doubt I will get the covid booster any earlier than others if they are doing all over 50s. I kind of expected it to be given with the flu jab, but as above will have to wait and see as I base that on nothing more than it would appear more efficient.
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,312
    Looks like Boris' gamble is paying dividends and Starmer has stopped repeating "reckless" like a parrot, one for the Tories...
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  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    ugo.santalucia said:

    Looks like Boris' gamble is paying dividends and Starmer has stopped repeating "reckless" like a parrot, one for the Tories...


    Yep, does look that way. No idea if it was by luck or good judgment, but either way cases are heading in the right direction
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,187
    kingstonian said:

    ugo.santalucia said:

    Looks like Boris' gamble is paying dividends and Starmer has stopped repeating "reckless" like a parrot, one for the Tories...


    Yep, does look that way. No idea if it was by luck or good judgment, but either way cases are heading in the right direction
    Luck. Definitely. For making decisions he has one of those dice in a popper that used to come with Matel board games.
  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    First.Aspect said:

    kingstonian said:

    ugo.santalucia said:

    Looks like Boris' gamble is paying dividends and Starmer has stopped repeating "reckless" like a parrot, one for the Tories...


    Yep, does look that way. No idea if it was by luck or good judgment, but either way cases are heading in the right direction
    Luck. Definitely. For making decisions he has one of those dice in a popper that used to come with Matel board games.
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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,231
    Case numbers nothing whatsoever to do with no schools testing and people switching off the world class pinger app. 'Success' is all down to Spaffer's skillz.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    It would be nice if his optimism was well placed for a change, as much as I think he is utterly incapable.
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  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    Euros over too. All that pub mixing contributed to the rises during late June and July.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,187
    morstar said:

    Euros over too. All that pub mixing contributed to the rises during late June and July.

    Footie starting again soon. Mass gammon gatherings. Is that the right term?
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    First.Aspect said:

    morstar said:

    Euros over too. All that pub mixing contributed to the rises during late June and July.

    Footie starting again soon. Mass gammon gatherings. Is that the right term?
    A stadium of gammons sounds like the correct collective noun.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,154
    Just seen someone on the train with a hole cut in their face mask so their nose can more comfortably poke through.
  • womack
    womack Posts: 566
    kingstongraham said:

    Just seen someone on the train with a hole cut in their face mask so their nose can more comfortably poke through.



    Was it Rebecca?
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    kingstongraham said:

    Just seen someone on the train with a hole cut in their face mask so their nose can more comfortably poke through.

    To be fair so long as they breathe out through their mouth it's not a bad idea - it's all about protecting others after all.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited August 2021
    In case anyone is still paying attention to Cummings he’s basically saying Johnson bought into a lot of the rona scepticism and believes a lot of the “misinformation” coming out of telegraph columnists etc, including the “great barrington” stuff
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,389
    rick_chasey said:

    In case anyone is still paying attention to Cummings he’s basically saying Johnson bought into a lot of the rona scepticism and believes a lot of the “misinformation” coming out of telegraph columnists etc, including the “great barrington” stuff


    I don't think he really 'believes' anything in particular, just what suits the moment for his own ends.
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  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    rick_chasey said:

    In case anyone is still paying attention to Cummings he’s basically saying Johnson bought into a lot of the rona scepticism and believes a lot of the “misinformation” coming out of telegraph columnists etc, including the “great barrington” stuff

    Isn’t that obvious from his early stage failure to learn from other countries through to having a break at Xmas.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,698
    Eurrrgh, major Pfizer 2 malaise today... 😥🤕😷
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    surrey_commuter said:

    rick_chasey said:

    In case anyone is still paying attention to Cummings he’s basically saying Johnson bought into a lot of the rona scepticism and believes a lot of the “misinformation” coming out of telegraph columnists etc, including the “great barrington” stuff

    Isn’t that obvious from his early stage failure to learn from other countries through to having a break at Xmas.
    Lack of belief, which is how understood BoJo to be, and just being the “mayor who keeps the beaches open” is different to believing the nonsense.
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  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,609
    I do wonder what portion of right (and indeed left) wing columns are written sincerely and how many are written to as a "joke" simply try and get a rise.

  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    rick_chasey said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    rick_chasey said:

    In case anyone is still paying attention to Cummings he’s basically saying Johnson bought into a lot of the rona scepticism and believes a lot of the “misinformation” coming out of telegraph columnists etc, including the “great barrington” stuff

    Isn’t that obvious from his early stage failure to learn from other countries through to having a break at Xmas.
    Lack of belief, which is how understood BoJo to be, and just being the “mayor who keeps the beaches open” is different to believing the nonsense.
    Consider a different context. If he was told the French were going to invade then he may decide it was overblown rubbish and make no preparations. If he believed it was a viable threat he would attend meetings and do whatever he could to prevent them landing.
  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,609
    surrey_commuter said:

    rick_chasey said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    rick_chasey said:

    In case anyone is still paying attention to Cummings he’s basically saying Johnson bought into a lot of the rona scepticism and believes a lot of the “misinformation” coming out of telegraph columnists etc, including the “great barrington” stuff

    Isn’t that obvious from his early stage failure to learn from other countries through to having a break at Xmas.
    Lack of belief, which is how understood BoJo to be, and just being the “mayor who keeps the beaches open” is different to believing the nonsense.
    Consider a different context. If he was told the French were going to invade then he may decide it was overblown rubbish and make no preparations. If he believed it was a viable threat he would attend meetings and do whatever he could to prevent them landing.
    I think you give him too much credit.

  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,333
    BJ just doesn't learn even the simplest of lessons.
    It's only been a couple of weeks and here we go again.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58123017
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,726
    edited August 2021
    pblakeney said:

    BJ just doesn't learn even the simplest of lessons.
    It's only been a couple of weeks and here we go again.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58123017



    He's become a Drakeford puppet and is now following the Welsh rules, which changed this morning. :p
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  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,609
    pblakeney said:

    BJ just doesn't learn even the simplest of lessons.
    It's only been a couple of weeks and here we go again.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58123017

    Meh. Think this time he will ride it out as numbers are going down steadily. It looks like the country can withstand a wave without totally blowing hospital capacity.

    Although maybe he'll be kicking himself about a missed opportunity to use himself as a bio weapon against Nicola.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    Jezyboy said:

    pblakeney said:

    BJ just doesn't learn even the simplest of lessons.
    It's only been a couple of weeks and here we go again.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58123017

    Meh. Think this time he will ride it out as numbers are going down steadily. It looks like the country can withstand a wave without totally blowing hospital capacity.

    Although maybe he'll be kicking himself about a missed opportunity to use himself as a bio weapon against Nicola.
    I think he will ride it out but numbers are no longer going down steadily and we are at a mortality rate of 30K per year.

  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,333
    Jezyboy said:

    pblakeney said:

    BJ just doesn't learn even the simplest of lessons.
    It's only been a couple of weeks and here we go again.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58123017

    Meh. Think this time he will ride it out ....
    Oh, I think he will ride it out too.
    Mostly because he doesn't care though.
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  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965
    morstar said:

    Jezyboy said:

    pblakeney said:

    BJ just doesn't learn even the simplest of lessons.
    It's only been a couple of weeks and here we go again.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58123017

    Meh. Think this time he will ride it out as numbers are going down steadily. It looks like the country can withstand a wave without totally blowing hospital capacity.

    Although maybe he'll be kicking himself about a missed opportunity to use himself as a bio weapon against Nicola.
    I think he will ride it out but numbers are no longer going down steadily and we are at a mortality rate of 30K per year.

    So 10k above flu and there will be a large overlap between those groups. Those who think the world is not going to go back to pretty much how it was before are kidding themselves.

  • womack
    womack Posts: 566
    blazing_saddles said:

    pblakeney said:

    BJ just doesn't learn even the simplest of lessons.
    It's only been a couple of weeks and here we go again.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58123017



    He's become a Drakeford puppet and is now following the Welsh rules, which changed this morning. :p

    Never been a Labour voter but Mark Drakeford does come out of this pandemic with a fair bit of kudos.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    john80 said:

    morstar said:

    Jezyboy said:

    pblakeney said:

    BJ just doesn't learn even the simplest of lessons.
    It's only been a couple of weeks and here we go again.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58123017

    Meh. Think this time he will ride it out as numbers are going down steadily. It looks like the country can withstand a wave without totally blowing hospital capacity.

    Although maybe he'll be kicking himself about a missed opportunity to use himself as a bio weapon against Nicola.
    I think he will ride it out but numbers are no longer going down steadily and we are at a mortality rate of 30K per year.

    So 10k above flu and there will be a large overlap between those groups. Those who think the world is not going to go back to pretty much how it was before are kidding themselves.

    My first hand experience is that the world definitely is getting back to a normal state. But important to recognise that it is currently 30K deaths on top of 100K+
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,187
    morstar said:

    john80 said:

    morstar said:

    Jezyboy said:

    pblakeney said:

    BJ just doesn't learn even the simplest of lessons.
    It's only been a couple of weeks and here we go again.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58123017

    Meh. Think this time he will ride it out as numbers are going down steadily. It looks like the country can withstand a wave without totally blowing hospital capacity.

    Although maybe he'll be kicking himself about a missed opportunity to use himself as a bio weapon against Nicola.
    I think he will ride it out but numbers are no longer going down steadily and we are at a mortality rate of 30K per year.

    So 10k above flu and there will be a large overlap between those groups. Those who think the world is not going to go back to pretty much how it was before are kidding themselves.

    My first hand experience is that the world definitely is getting back to a normal state. But important to recognise that it is currently 30K deaths on top of 100K+
    It isn't.

    600 ish deaths a week reflects the infection rates weeks ago. Since that has roughly halved, today's infections will correspond to about 300ish a week.

    The infections have plateaued a bit because of the 19 July reopening. I have a hunch that they will start to fall a bit faster soon. And then it becomes an interesting policy debate in terms of acceptable ongoing rates.

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