Coronavirus and pro sport

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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Wasn't expecting this but maybe a pointer towards the Tour's chances being greater than zero?

    Other sport in France remains suspended but horse racing has been given the all-clear after discussions with government officials.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/52614050

    Starts this morning.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • joe2019
    joe2019 Posts: 1,338
    blazing_saddles said:

    Wasn't expecting this but maybe a pointer towards the Tour's chances being greater than zero?

    Other sport in France remains suspended but horse racing has been given the all-clear after discussions with government officials.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/52614050

    Starts this morning.

    Horse racing is a strange one, literally no-one would watch it if they couldn't place a bet on it.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    joe2019 said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    Wasn't expecting this but maybe a pointer towards the Tour's chances being greater than zero?

    Other sport in France remains suspended but horse racing has been given the all-clear after discussions with government officials.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/52614050

    Starts this morning.

    Horse racing is a strange one, literally no-one would watch it if they couldn't place a bet on it.
    Isn't betting in France nationalised?
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,119
    blazing_saddles said:

    Wasn't expecting this but maybe a pointer towards the Tour's chances being greater than zero?

    Other sport in France remains suspended but horse racing has been given the all-clear after discussions with government officials.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/52614050

    Starts this morning.

    Everyone wearing masks all the time (except the horses), everywhere shut that can be, and minimum time spent in changing and weighing rooms.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,554
    rick_chasey said:

    joe2019 said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    Wasn't expecting this but maybe a pointer towards the Tour's chances being greater than zero?

    Other sport in France remains suspended but horse racing has been given the all-clear after discussions with government officials.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/52614050

    Starts this morning.

    Horse racing is a strange one, literally no-one would watch it if they couldn't place a bet on it.
    Isn't betting in France nationalised?
    Certainly no high street bookies, and bets can only be placed in certain shops / bars.
  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    Not sure that horse racing is that similar to the Tour de France ?
  • joe2019
    joe2019 Posts: 1,338
    fenix said:

    Not sure that horse racing is that similar to the Tour de France ?

    Not sure horse racing is similar to sport

  • redvision
    redvision Posts: 2,958
    The telegraph are reporting pro sport in UK to resume from June 12th - with strict precautions/ measures in place.

    Waiting patiently for the outcome of today's Premier league meeting. Sounds like there is real conflict and different opinions on the league resuming, and a growing number of players reportedly against playing until there is a vaccine.

    I would suspect many athletes across all sports may feel this way.
  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    redvision said:

    The telegraph are reporting pro sport in UK to resume from June 12th - with strict precautions/ measures in place.

    Waiting patiently for the outcome of today's Premier league meeting. Sounds like there is real conflict and different opinions on the league resuming, and a growing number of players reportedly against playing until there is a vaccine.

    I would suspect many athletes across all sports may feel this way.

    While they are still getting paid! Or those few rare sports stars that have earnt more than enough money to never have to play again

  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    Geraint Thomas has today flown out to France to resume full training ahead of the planned cycling restart and his participation in the TdF
  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    In the premier League - even the lowest average yearly wage is 730k.
    At Man City it's almost ten times that.

    Not exactly hand to mouth living.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    It's worth repeating that the planned Tour start is still 16 weeks away. Nearly a third of a year. Paris-Nice finished eight weeks ago.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,307
    edited May 2020
    fenix said:

    In the premier League - even the lowest average yearly wage is 730k.
    At Man City it's almost ten times that.

    Not exactly hand to mouth living.


    "Fulham – Denis Odoi, £109 Per Minute

    (Earns £8,900 a week, played 2115 minutes in the Premier League)"

    No, not hand to mouth, but not £730k either.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,119
    pblakeney said:

    fenix said:

    In the premier League - even the lowest average yearly wage is 730k.
    At Man City it's almost ten times that.

    Not exactly hand to mouth living.


    "Fulham – Denis Odoi, £109 Per Minute

    (Earns £8,900 a week, played 2115 minutes in the Premier League)"

    No, not hand to mouth, but not £730k either.
    That's still almost half a million!

    The stat above was lowest average yearly wage - I assume that would be Sheffield United from this: https://talksport.com/football/646948/average-first-team-2019-salary-every-premier-league-club/
  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    pblakeney said:

    fenix said:

    In the premier League - even the lowest average yearly wage is 730k.
    At Man City it's almost ten times that.

    Not exactly hand to mouth living.


    "Fulham – Denis Odoi, £109 Per Minute

    (Earns £8,900 a week, played 2115 minutes in the Premier League)"

    No, not hand to mouth, but not £730k either.
    So he's under the average. 9 grand a week seems pretty decent still ?
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,307
    Yeah. Lowest average team v lowest individual player.
    Anyway. The main driver will be the club's ability to stay afloat while maintaining those wages. Some were operating at a loss during the good times.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    fenix said:

    Not sure that horse racing is that similar to the Tour de France ?

    It is similar in the sense that it takes place in the great outdoors and has been able to negotiate with the government outside of the blanket ban.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    RichN95. said:

    It's worth repeating that the planned Tour start is still 16 weeks away. Nearly a third of a year. Paris-Nice finished eight weeks ago.

    I admire your optimism.

    it's also worth repeating that quite a few epidemiologists seem to think we'll be in various modes of lockdown for at least the rest of 2020.
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  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    blazing_saddles said:

    fenix said:

    Not sure that horse racing is that similar to the Tour de France ?

    It is similar in the sense that it takes place in the great outdoors and has been able to negotiate with the government outside of the blanket ban.
    But it's not the public roads and moving from town to town every day. It's quite different.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    edited May 2020
    fenix said:

    pblakeney said:

    fenix said:

    In the premier League - even the lowest average yearly wage is 730k.
    At Man City it's almost ten times that.

    Not exactly hand to mouth living.


    "Fulham – Denis Odoi, £109 Per Minute

    (Earns £8,900 a week, played 2115 minutes in the Premier League)"

    No, not hand to mouth, but not £730k either.
    So he's under the average. 9 grand a week seems pretty decent still ?


    He's not playing in the Premier League either.
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    No UK pro sport till at least 1 June, although that probably is a surprise to no-one https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/52619111
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    edited May 2020
    fenix said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    fenix said:

    Not sure that horse racing is that similar to the Tour de France ?

    It is similar in the sense that it takes place in the great outdoors and has been able to negotiate with the government outside of the blanket ban.
    But it's not the public roads and moving from town to town every day. It's quite different.
    You asked how they were similar, so I ask which part of able to negotiate with the government outside of the blanket ban did you not understand?
    Unless you know of other sports within France that have been given similar discretion.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    Ok so it's outside and in France.

    Apart from that - nothing like the Tour.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,119
    fenix said:

    Ok so it's outside and in France.

    Apart from that - nothing like the Tour.

    In France is the key bit.

    If they can produce enough evidence that they have made so many changes that there is minimal risk... they might get an exemption.
  • joe2019
    joe2019 Posts: 1,338
    kingstongraham said:

    fenix said:

    Ok so it's outside and in France.

    Apart from that - nothing like the Tour.

    In France is the key bit.

    If they can produce enough evidence that they have made so many changes that there is minimal risk... they might get an exemption.
    Minimal risk is the key bit.

  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,119
    joe2019 said:

    kingstongraham said:

    fenix said:

    Ok so it's outside and in France.

    Apart from that - nothing like the Tour.

    In France is the key bit.

    If they can produce enough evidence that they have made so many changes that there is minimal risk... they might get an exemption.
    Minimal risk is the key bit.

    I don't see it either. It would be a different tour if they were all wearing masks, I suppose.
  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    If they can get branding onto the masks - then you might have something !
  • joe2019
    joe2019 Posts: 1,338
    And before this, all they had to worry about was having some p*ss thrown over them.
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    bobmcstuff said:

    No UK pro sport till at least 1 June, although that probably is a surprise to no-one https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/52619111

    is it just me that hates seeing dates written like that. Should be 1st June, or even better 1st Of June. Dont like this American number only format.

    Does anyone know, is horse racing only taking place at one venue, or are all the horses and riders and staff criss-crossing the country
  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    This is an excellent read and shows the risks of indoors vs outdoors

    https://www.erinbromage.com/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them
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