Coronavirus and pro sport
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It would still be great without the crowds - there's a lot fewer for Omloop and that is a great race too.0
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Oh me too. I live near Belgium so I might even make my way there if I'm allowed and it's not too risky.DeVlaeminck said:Yes I like the crowds in the classics where they don't get in the way - I'd still watch though.
Don't you think there will always be a metaphorical asterisk next to each winner's name though.
And how is it going to work for the teams? Some of the half decent classics riders (longshots who might still have a chance of a podium) will surely be sent to a GT instead.0 -
Trouble with that is that there are likely a good few hundred thinking the same.nickice said:
Oh me too. I live near Belgium so I might even make my way there if I'm allowed and it's not too risky.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I don't understand why some individuals on here remain so eager to pour cold water on even the faintest optimism about events that aren't scheduled for four months.pblakeney said:
Trouble with that is that there are likely a good few hundred thinking the same.nickice said:
Oh me too. I live near Belgium so I might even make my way there if I'm allowed and it's not too risky.
Allow us a little light at the end of the tunnel."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
I meant the general climate, i.e. there might be an effective treatment (or even a vaccine if unlikely), or, even better (for me), my growing suspicion that I've already had it are confirmed not that I would go if the crowds weren't too big.pblakeney said:
Trouble with that is that there are likely a good few hundred thinking the same.nickice said:
Oh me too. I live near Belgium so I might even make my way there if I'm allowed and it's not too risky.
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Why get your hopes up to get dashed?blazing_saddles said:
I don't understand why some individuals on here remain so eager to pour cold water on even the faintest optimism about events that aren't scheduled for four months.pblakeney said:
Trouble with that is that there are likely a good few hundred thinking the same.nickice said:
Oh me too. I live near Belgium so I might even make my way there if I'm allowed and it's not too risky.
Allow us a little light at the end of the tunnel.
I prefer be surprised on the upside.0 -
Surprised?rick_chasey said:
Why get your hopes up to get dashed?blazing_saddles said:
I don't understand why some individuals on here remain so eager to pour cold water on even the faintest optimism about events that aren't scheduled for four months.pblakeney said:
Trouble with that is that there are likely a good few hundred thinking the same.nickice said:
Oh me too. I live near Belgium so I might even make my way there if I'm allowed and it's not too risky.
Allow us a little light at the end of the tunnel.
I prefer be surprised on the upside.
Truth is Rick, you would be absolutely gutted if the Tour took place.
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.1 -
I think you're mistaking expectation for hope.blazing_saddles said:
Surprised?rick_chasey said:
Why get your hopes up to get dashed?blazing_saddles said:
I don't understand why some individuals on here remain so eager to pour cold water on even the faintest optimism about events that aren't scheduled for four months.pblakeney said:
Trouble with that is that there are likely a good few hundred thinking the same.nickice said:
Oh me too. I live near Belgium so I might even make my way there if I'm allowed and it's not too risky.
Allow us a little light at the end of the tunnel.
I prefer be surprised on the upside.
Truth is Rick, you would be absolutely gutted if the Tour took place.
I would be surprised if the Tour takes place this year, but if it does, it means that the world is in a better place than I expect, so it would be a fantastic result.
They should be planning for it to happen, because why wouldn't they?0 -
I think some are putting hope ahead of reality.blazing_saddles said:
I don't understand why some individuals on here remain so eager to pour cold water on even the faintest optimism about events that aren't scheduled for four months.pblakeney said:
Trouble with that is that there are likely a good few hundred thinking the same.nickice said:
Oh me too. I live near Belgium so I might even make my way there if I'm allowed and it's not too risky.
Allow us a little light at the end of the tunnel.
Very happy to be proven wrong.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
German football gets Merkel's green light for go, around the middle of this month.
(She's also said all shops can re-open)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52557699
Meanwhile, the UCI boss has mentioned the the D word again if the Tour doesn't go ahead.
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/tour-de-france/uci-president-says-not-holding-the-tour-de-france-in-2020-would-be-a-disaster-as-he-shares-thoughts-on-new-worldtour-calendar-455458"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
pblakeney said:
I think some are putting hope ahead of reality.
And what is reality in September?
The biggest failing of dealing with this pandemic is the hiring of scientists who can't foresee what will happen next week when there were expects available on social media who know with certainty what will happen in several monthsTwitter: @RichN953 -
The only thing we know, is that we don’t know.
Opening things up now gives a high probability of a second wave around then.
Plan for the best scenario by all means but don’t assume that the plans will come to fruition.
Unless this has all been a lizard people plan to track and trace us while there is no real threat.
Which scenario is more likely?
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
pblakeney said:
The only thing we know, is that we don’t know.
Opening things up now gives a high probability of a second wave around then.
Plan for the best scenario by all means but don’t assume that the plans will come to fruition.
Why are you wasting your knowledge on us? Go and tell the European governments who are clearly listening to less informed people than you.
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You didn't read the first sentence, did you?RichN95. said:pblakeney said:The only thing we know, is that we don’t know.
Opening things up now gives a high probability of a second wave around then.
Plan for the best scenario by all means but don’t assume that the plans will come to fruition.
Why are you wasting your knowledge on us? Go and tell the European governments who are clearly listening to less informed people than you.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
But you then again contradict your first sentence with negative assumptions and guesswork.pblakeney said:
You didn't read the first sentence, did you?RichN95. said:pblakeney said:The only thing we know, is that we don’t know.
Opening things up now gives a high probability of a second wave around then.
Plan for the best scenario by all means but don’t assume that the plans will come to fruition.
Why are you wasting your knowledge on us? Go and tell the European governments who are clearly listening to less informed people than you.
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Everyone else is just guessing since no one knows what is happening far less what will happen. Believe what you wish. I hope you are right. I'm at the acceptance stage.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
pblakeney said:
You didn't read the first sentence, did you?RichN95. said:pblakeney said:The only thing we know, is that we don’t know.
Opening things up now gives a high probability of a second wave around then.
Plan for the best scenario by all means but don’t assume that the plans will come to fruition.
Why are you wasting your knowledge on us? Go and tell the European governments who are clearly listening to less informed people than you.
I did. And you should have stopped thereTwitter: @RichN950 -
Truth is a return to sporting events will enable some return to normality. Even if these events are closed doors or restricted.
Sport is an enormously important part of everyday life.
Personally I think they should start from the bottom up and allow grassroots football etc to resume.
In my humble opinion I cannot see the TdF NOT going ahead in August.
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Yes. 22 players behind closed doors for 90 mins is very similar to 176 riders being in close formation for 6 Hours a Day on the public roads.blazing_saddles said:German football gets Merkel's green light for go, around the middle of this month.
(She's also said all shops can re-open)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52557699
Meanwhile, the UCI boss has mentioned the the D word again if the Tour doesn't go ahead.
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/tour-de-france/uci-president-says-not-holding-the-tour-de-france-in-2020-would-be-a-disaster-as-he-shares-thoughts-on-new-worldtour-calendar-455458
Makes as much sense as us lifting some of the lockdown restrictions too soon.0 -
Oh come on. You know I am a gigantic cycling fan. It's one of the few things I really really miss. Why would I not want it to happen?blazing_saddles said:
Surprised?rick_chasey said:
Why get your hopes up to get dashed?blazing_saddles said:
I don't understand why some individuals on here remain so eager to pour cold water on even the faintest optimism about events that aren't scheduled for four months.pblakeney said:
Trouble with that is that there are likely a good few hundred thinking the same.nickice said:
Oh me too. I live near Belgium so I might even make my way there if I'm allowed and it's not too risky.
Allow us a little light at the end of the tunnel.
I prefer be surprised on the upside.
Truth is Rick, you would be absolutely gutted if the Tour took place.
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You may like to note the name of this thread.fenix said:
Yes. 22 players behind closed doors for 90 mins is very similar to 176 riders being in close formation for 6 Hours a Day on the public roads.blazing_saddles said:German football gets Merkel's green light for go, around the middle of this month.
(She's also said all shops can re-open)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52557699
Meanwhile, the UCI boss has mentioned the the D word again if the Tour doesn't go ahead.
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/tour-de-france/uci-president-says-not-holding-the-tour-de-france-in-2020-would-be-a-disaster-as-he-shares-thoughts-on-new-worldtour-calendar-455458
Makes as much sense as us lifting some of the lockdown restrictions too soon.
Those two links appeared at the same time and were not intended to relate in any way.
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Now here's one sport re-starting that I do scratch my head over.
NZ expect to be able to introduce both a netball and rugby mini series in the very near future.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/52573423"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
New Zealand could pretty safely restart almost anything with a daily new case rate of about 1.blazing_saddles said:Now here's one sport re-starting that I do scratch my head over.
NZ expect to be able to introduce both a netball and rugby mini series in the very near future.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/525734230 -
22 players plus subs plus officials multiplied by however many games are played - not that different. Public roads makes little difference unless we have crowds packed watching .fenix said:
Yes. 22 players behind closed doors for 90 mins is very similar to 176 riders being in close formation for 6 Hours a Day on the public roads.blazing_saddles said:German football gets Merkel's green light for go, around the middle of this month.
(She's also said all shops can re-open)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52557699
Meanwhile, the UCI boss has mentioned the the D word again if the Tour doesn't go ahead.
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/tour-de-france/uci-president-says-not-holding-the-tour-de-france-in-2020-would-be-a-disaster-as-he-shares-thoughts-on-new-worldtour-calendar-455458
Makes as much sense as us lifting some of the lockdown restrictions too soon.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0 -
Makes a difference if one person tests positive and all those who have come into contact with them need to isolate. (Not the public roads bit, the first bit.)DeVlaeminck said:
22 players plus subs plus officials multiplied by however many games are played - not that different. Public roads makes little difference unless we have crowds packed watching .fenix said:
Yes. 22 players behind closed doors for 90 mins is very similar to 176 riders being in close formation for 6 Hours a Day on the public roads.blazing_saddles said:German football gets Merkel's green light for go, around the middle of this month.
(She's also said all shops can re-open)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52557699
Meanwhile, the UCI boss has mentioned the the D word again if the Tour doesn't go ahead.
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/tour-de-france/uci-president-says-not-holding-the-tour-de-france-in-2020-would-be-a-disaster-as-he-shares-thoughts-on-new-worldtour-calendar-455458
Makes as much sense as us lifting some of the lockdown restrictions too soon.0 -
And the different hotels, start towns etc they would be staying in every night.DeVlaeminck said:
22 players plus subs plus officials multiplied by however many games are played - not that different. Public roads makes little difference unless we have crowds packed watching .fenix said:
Yes. 22 players behind closed doors for 90 mins is very similar to 176 riders being in close formation for 6 Hours a Day on the public roads.blazing_saddles said:German football gets Merkel's green light for go, around the middle of this month.
(She's also said all shops can re-open)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52557699
Meanwhile, the UCI boss has mentioned the the D word again if the Tour doesn't go ahead.
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/tour-de-france/uci-president-says-not-holding-the-tour-de-france-in-2020-would-be-a-disaster-as-he-shares-thoughts-on-new-worldtour-calendar-455458
Makes as much sense as us lifting some of the lockdown restrictions too soon.0 -
So long as it doesn't involve anyone from outside +NZ for the next few years.....kingstongraham said:
New Zealand could pretty safely restart almost anything with a daily new case rate of about 1.blazing_saddles said:Now here's one sport re-starting that I do scratch my head over.
NZ expect to be able to introduce both a netball and rugby mini series in the very near future.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/525734231 -
It's easier for NZ to choose to insist that anyone who arrives from an area riddled with it has to go through quarantine, but yes, it's a choice.Dorset_Boy said:
So long as it doesn't involve anyone from outside +NZ for the next few years.....kingstongraham said:
New Zealand could pretty safely restart almost anything with a daily new case rate of about 1.blazing_saddles said:Now here's one sport re-starting that I do scratch my head over.
NZ expect to be able to introduce both a netball and rugby mini series in the very near future.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/525734230 -
I would say that's now a gimme.kingstongraham said:
New Zealand could pretty safely restart almost anything with a daily new case rate of about 1.blazing_saddles said:Now here's one sport re-starting that I do scratch my head over.
NZ expect to be able to introduce both a netball and rugby mini series in the very near future.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/52573423
If scrums, rucks and mauls are OK, then social distancing rules are no longer being applied.
Yet, the games will be played behind closed doors.
Hence my head scratching remark."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Going all-in on demolishing the curve.blazing_saddles said:
I would say that's now a gimme.kingstongraham said:
New Zealand could pretty safely restart almost anything with a daily new case rate of about 1.blazing_saddles said:Now here's one sport re-starting that I do scratch my head over.
NZ expect to be able to introduce both a netball and rugby mini series in the very near future.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/52573423
If scrums, rucks and mauls are OK, then social distancing rules are no longer being applied.
Yet, the games will be played behind closed doors.
Hence my head scratching remark.0
