TDF 2019, Stage 20: Albertville > Val Thorens 27/07/2019 - 130 km *Spoilers*

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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    ContrelaMontre wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    ContrelaMontre wrote:
    Craigus89 wrote:
    To be fair, if the stage had finished yesterday Bernal might have a 4 minute lead, at least there is some interest today!

    Bullshit! He might have blown up on Tignes and Thomas be in yellow.

    He hasn't won a stage yet, so if he wants to put his stamp on this victory and not be thought of as a lucky winner he needs to win today.
    The way he was riding? Yeah, sure he would have.

    Have you watched cycling before? How many attacks from 50km out get reeled back in? Bernal has not been the best at any point up until the Iseran. To say he'd be gaining 5+ minutes on a 7km climb is ridiculously counterfactual.

    Stage 19, Giro 2018.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    ContrelaMontre wrote:
    If Bernal was able to take 5 minutes on 1 stage why hasn't he shown such form previously?

    Because he is riding in support of someone else. You are aware of how Ineos formerly Sky work?
  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,233
    Eurosport update: Bradley’s wearing Fila and those lovely people at VW are bringing electric cars to the people, for the people. They’re doing it for US!
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    OCDuPalais wrote:
    Eurosport update: Bradley’s wearing Fila and those lovely people at VW are bringing electric cars to the people, for the people. They’re doing it for US!

    Like they brought us their eco diesels?
    Correlation is not causation.
  • ContrelaMontre
    ContrelaMontre Posts: 3,027
    Shirley Basso wrote:
    ContrelaMontre wrote:
    If Bernal was able to take 5 minutes on 1 stage why hasn't he shown such form previously?

    Because he is riding in support of someone else. You are aware of how Ineos formerly Sky work?

    Is that why he lost so much time in the time trial?
    Rule No.10 // It never gets easier, you just go faster
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Shirley Basso wrote:
    Bernal vs SK. I know who my money is on taking more time.

    And it was Bernal + Yates

    If one watches Bernal's attack again, it was Kruijswijk who tried to follow. He couldn't, pulled over and with Geraint next in line. that was it. He waved bye bye and was free and clear.

    With De Plus up the road and at that point had not been called back, it would have been more sensible to continue to ride on Bernal's wheel, call De Plus back and meet up somewhere on the road.
    So, I take any talk about SK saving it for the Tignes climb with just a pinch of salt.

    Oh I fully agree Bernal was taking more time.

    2 GC riders - Yates and Bernal pushing on together vs a demoralised SK with or without a knackered domestique with GT on his wheel waiting to launch an attack.
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    ContrelaMontre wrote:
    Shirley Basso wrote:
    ContrelaMontre wrote:
    If Bernal was able to take 5 minutes on 1 stage why hasn't he shown such form previously?

    Because he is riding in support of someone else. You are aware of how Ineos formerly Sky work?

    Is that why he lost so much time in the time trial?

    The TT has been discussed at length.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Why is anyone shocked at a Colombian climber doing well over multiple 2000+m climbs?
    Correlation is not causation.
  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,042
    Bardet may not ride the tour next year he's said.
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  • alanparsons
    alanparsons Posts: 529
    davidof wrote:
    Bardet may not ride the tour next year he's said.

    Hardly surprising, surely his sponsor/team will be looking for a genuine contender and I doubt he would be a great domestique.
  • ContrelaMontre
    ContrelaMontre Posts: 3,027
    They're at start now, hopefully we can stop speculating and just see what they do today.
    Rule No.10 // It never gets easier, you just go faster
  • PhilipPirrip
    PhilipPirrip Posts: 616
    Has anyone here mentioned the last 11km might be cancelled?
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 21,815
    edited July 2019
    OCDuPalais wrote:
    Eurosport update: Bradley’s wearing Fila and those lovely people at VW are bringing electric cars to the people, for the people. They’re doing it for US!

    Eurosport update: Sean Kelly surprisingly forthright about yesterday. He thinks Bernal might not necessarily have made it to the finish and he thinks Thomas was the big loser, as could have come out on top in the end.
    He's also picked him ftw today.

    Sounded quite the fanbois.
    PhilipPirrip wrote:
    Has anyone here mentioned the last 11km might be cancelled?

    Brad Wiggins did, without mentioning how far down the mountain.
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  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,233
    Bernal having sherbet dibdab on start line.
  • alanparsons
    alanparsons Posts: 529
    PhilipPirrip wrote:
    Has anyone here mentioned the last 11km might be cancelled?

    Not been mentioned on live TV so I guess it is going to the top, subject to the weather in the next 2 hours.
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,619
    "Do not miss a pedal stroke of it" says Ned, as they cut to adverts...
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    OCDuPalais wrote:
    Bernal having sherbet dibdab on start line.

    True Champion.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • PhilipPirrip
    PhilipPirrip Posts: 616
    Ned Boulting; 'Today's stage is short, don't miss a pedal stroke of it.' *Goes straight to adverts*

    LOL
  • alanparsons
    alanparsons Posts: 529
    edited July 2019
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    OCDuPalais wrote:
    Eurosport update: Bradley’s wearing Fila and those lovely people at VW are bringing electric cars to the people, for the people. They’re doing it for US!

    Eurosport update: Sean Kelly surprisingly forthright about yesterday. He thinks Bernal might not necessarily have made it to the finish and he thinks Thomas was the big loser, as could have come out on top in the end.
    He's also picked him ftw today.

    Sounded quite the fanbois.
    PhilipPirrip wrote:
    Has anyone here mentioned the last 11km might be cancelled?

    Brad Wiggins did, without mentioning how far down the mountain.

    Kelly sounded absolutely spot on to me.
  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,042
    alanparsons wrote:
    davidof wrote:
    Bardet may not ride the tour next year he's said.

    Hardly surprising, surely his sponsor/team will be looking for a genuine contender and I doubt he would be a great domestique.

    The French teams don't seem too bothered about winning, it would seem.

    Bardet wants to focus on races he can be a serious contender in rather then obsessing with the tour. He's a good allrounder.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,734
    Here we go
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  • slim_boy_fat
    slim_boy_fat Posts: 1,810
    PhilipPirrip wrote:
    Ned Boulting; 'Today's stage is short, don't miss a pedal stroke of it.' *Goes straight to adverts*

    LOL
    Depart Fictif innit.
  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,233
    E.U*: Virenque Festina ad followed by yet another VW ad. followed by Carlton Kirby... what/why am I watching!?
  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,233
    *Eurosprt Update
  • alanparsons
    alanparsons Posts: 529
    OCDuPalais wrote:
    E.U*: Virenque Festina ad followed by yet another VW ad. followed by Carlton Kirby... what/why am I watching!?

    At least it will be over quickly today.
  • richard_t._biscuit
    richard_t._biscuit Posts: 246
    They should've had one of those GP style starts.
  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,042
    PhilipPirrip wrote:
    Has anyone here mentioned the last 11km might be cancelled?

    The publicity caravan is blocked on the climb due to storms, can't chuck chinese plastic crap all over the mountain.

    Looks ok on the webcam though

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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,734
    Big day for ineos’ Dutch duo
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,734
    How much time does Bernal & Thomas have to play with?
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  • ShutupJens
    ShutupJens Posts: 1,373
    Richard T. Biscuit wrote:
    They should've had one of those GP style starts.

    Might as well. A le Mans style start wouldn't make anything more weird than it has been the last two days

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