So who now for the Yellow Jersey ?
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I'm warming to the idea that each mountain stage there's a different combination of half a dozen GC riders finishing together, but each time Buchmann is hanging on the back unnoticed. Then it comes to the end of stage 20 and everyone thinks 'who the hell is that?'PBlakeney wrote:
Possible. I always thought anyone within 6 minutes (ie top 10 today) going into the last week are in with a shout. Things've tightened up over the years but anyone in today's top 10 can blow up.RichN95 wrote:We talk about riders riding A la Zubeldia - getting into the top ten without anyone really noticing them. I'm wondering if Buchmann can get on the podium or maybe even win A la Zubeldia.Twitter: @RichN950 -
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I'm warming to the idea that each mountain stage there's a different combination of half a dozen GC riders finishing together, but each time Buchmann is hanging on the back unnoticed. Then it comes to the end of stage 20 and everyone thinks 'who the hell is that?'PBlakeney wrote:
Possible. I always thought anyone within 6 minutes (ie top 10 today) going into the last week are in with a shout. Things've tightened up over the years but anyone in today's top 10 can blow up.RichN95 wrote:We talk about riders riding A la Zubeldia - getting into the top ten without anyone really noticing them. I'm wondering if Buchmann can get on the podium or maybe even win A la Zubeldia.
Uran pretty much got 2nd by doing that in 2017.0 -
phreak wrote:Uran pretty much got 2nd by doing that in 2017.
He let his invisibility cloak slip slightly though when he won a stage.0 -
As for the surprise of an Alaphilippe win, I think he would be the first person in ages that no one had down as a contender, unless I didn’t look in the right places. By comparison there was quite a bit of talk around Thomas last year.0
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How many pundits mentioned Carapaz before the Giro?0
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mrfpb wrote:How many pundits mentioned Carapaz before the Giro?
Quite a few on Velogames!
To be fair, he did finish 4th in the Giro last year, aged 24 and then finished top 20 in the Vuelta.
All eyes were looking in Landa's direction."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
he dosesn't look as stressed/tired as Simon did in that giro."If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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mididoctors wrote:he dosesn't look as stressed/tired as Simon did in that giro.
Simon didn't look at all fatigued this side of the second rest day. Today is stage 15 of the Tour.
Stage 15 of the Giro saw by far his most impressive stage win of the three."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
French press listed him amongst the second favourites.inseine wrote:As for the surprise of an Alaphilippe win, I think he would be the first person in ages that no one had down as a contender, unless I didn’t look in the right places. By comparison there was quite a bit of talk around Thomas last year.BASI Nordic Ski Instructor
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Buchmann was listed as one of 12 Tour contenders on the non-UK cycling website I often look at, albeit only with the same chance of winning as Uran or Mas and with 9 other names considered more likely on the podium. So in some circles he isn't anonymous. Despite several top-10 GC placings in the Tour, I doubt Zubeldia ever made a list of 12 possible contenders.RichN95 wrote:
I'm warming to the idea that each mountain stage there's a different combination of half a dozen GC riders finishing together, but each time Buchmann is hanging on the back unnoticed. Then it comes to the end of stage 20 and everyone thinks 'who the hell is that?'PBlakeney wrote:
Possible. I always thought anyone within 6 minutes (ie top 10 today) going into the last week are in with a shout. Things've tightened up over the years but anyone in today's top 10 can blow up.RichN95 wrote:We talk about riders riding A la Zubeldia - getting into the top ten without anyone really noticing them. I'm wondering if Buchmann can get on the podium or maybe even win A la Zubeldia.
Emu (as Buchmann is called) has two faults – he lacks explosivity in his riding and he is retiring in character, not happy in the limelight. His Tour aim was to finish within the top-10, but many on the Continent tipped him for about 5th overall.0 -
Blazing Saddles wrote:mididoctors wrote:he dosesn't look as stressed/tired as Simon did in that giro.
Simon didn't look at all fatigued this side of the second rest day. Today is stage 15 of the Tour.
Stage 15 of the Giro saw by far his most impressive stage win of the three.
Et voila...."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
L’équipe didn't list in their top 14 but some of the betting had him 5thdavidof wrote:
French press listed him amongst the second favourites.inseine wrote:As for the surprise of an Alaphilippe win, I think he would be the first person in ages that no one had down as a contender, unless I didn’t look in the right places. By comparison there was quite a bit of talk around Thomas last year.0 -
Krashbike looked pretty good to me. Pinot and Bernal too0
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inseine wrote:
L’équipe didn't list in their top 14 but some of the betting had him 5thdavidof wrote:
French press listed him amongst the second favourites.inseine wrote:As for the surprise of an Alaphilippe win, I think he would be the first person in ages that no one had down as a contender, unless I didn’t look in the right places. By comparison there was quite a bit of talk around Thomas last year.
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So, I guess Valverde is probably the best fit model for Alaphilippe if he wants to be serious about riding gc. It shows that it's possible to ride well both in classics and gts. Of course, Valverde doesn't tend to waste any energy at all on panache or showmanship.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0
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Thomas the very slight favourite now? The steadier climbs of the Alps more to his liking than the gradients of the Pyrenees.
Conversely, they should suit Alaphilippe better too but I get the impression he's getting really tired now.
Pinot looking the strongest in the Pyrenees but worried how he'll cope with the heat.
Kruijswijk is riding strongly and looks like a certainty for the podium. I'd make him second favourite.
Got a feeling the crunch point of the race will be the final 2 kilometres of the Col de l’Iseran.0 -
Stage 16 - Nimes / Nimes - on paper a nothing day for the GC, but that's been said before. But even so, highest likelihood outcome is no change in GC, even if someone comes out of the rest day for a jour sans.
Stage 17 - Pont du Gard / Gap - would be normally an Alaphilippe sort of day, but he's not likely to animate anything, or be given the chance to. Likely a hard day for all controlling and matching each other's moves, so fatiguing but no other impact on GC.
Stage 18 - Embrun / Valloire - 208km, 3x over 2000m including Izoard & Galibier. Who knows?!? Izoard for nimble climbers, Galibier for diesels? But could it all come back together on the descent, or we see some incident as they hare down at the end of the day. Weather could be critical, but higher likelihood of some mix up in the GC. I wouldn't bet against Alaphilippe staying in yellow.
Stage 19 - SJdM / Tignes - Iseran could well be the decider, but a lot might depend on what has gone on in Stage 18. Nice of them to finish this right outside where I was staying at Easter, and where some idiot did this https://youtu.be/JOmgblulTik The day Alaphilippe loses yellow?
Stage 20 - Albertville / Val Thorens - 33km final climb could be a procession if 18 / 19 have sorted out the GC more clearly, but if it's still all to play for could be absolute chaos and carnage.
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DeadCalm wrote:Conversely, they should suit Alaphilippe better too but I get the impression he's getting really tired now.
Alaphilippe won't finish in the top ten“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
larkim wrote:Stage 16 - Nimes / Nimes - on paper a nothing day for the GC, but that's been said before. But even so, highest likelihood outcome is no change in GC, even if someone comes out of the rest day for a jour sans.
Stage 17 - Pont du Gard / Gap - would be normally an Alaphilippe sort of day, but he's not likely to animate anything, or be given the chance to. Likely a hard day for all controlling and matching each other's moves, so fatiguing but no other impact on GC.
Stage 18 - Embrun / Valloire - 208km, 3x over 2000m including Izoard & Galibier. Who knows?!? Izoard for nimble climbers, Galibier for diesels? But could it all come back together on the descent, or we see some incident as they hare down at the end of the day. Weather could be critical, but higher likelihood of some mix up in the GC. I wouldn't bet against Alaphilippe staying in yellow.
Stage 19 - SJdM / Tignes - Iseran could well be the decider, but a lot might depend on what has gone on in Stage 18. Nice of them to finish this right outside where I was staying at Easter, and where some idiot did this https://youtu.be/JOmgblulTik The day Alaphilippe loses yellow?
Stage 20 - Albertville / Val Thorens - 33km final climb could be a procession if 18 / 19 have sorted out the GC more clearly, but if it's still all to play for could be absolute chaos and carnage.
Thursday / Friday look like good days to book some annual leave if you get the chance ;-)
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Maybe this gives a better view of the finish area ;-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOmO0RKN9ww
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Rookie mistake, should have pulled up on the steering wheel on take-off.0
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I wonder whos going to win."If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Interesting that they think JA is going to lose the jersey on the Galibier stage. I've never ridden that side of the Lautaret but from watching previous TDF it's pretty steady going isn't it ? Unless he cracks on the Izoard then he's likely to get to the Galibier itself - given his descending skills and the length of the descent into Valloire he's probably going to have to ship at least a couple of minutes in 5k of the Galibier for him not to be wearing yellow on Thursday night.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0
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i am thinking JA attacks on the descent into gap"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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JA reconned every stage of this tour."If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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DeVlaeminck wrote:Interesting that they think JA is going to lose the jersey on the Galibier stage. I've never ridden that side of the Lautaret but from watching previous TDF it's pretty steady going isn't it ? Unless he cracks on the Izoard then he's likely to get to the Galibier itself - given his descending skills and the length of the descent into Valloire he's probably going to have to ship at least a couple of minutes in 5k of the Galibier for him not to be wearing yellow on Thursday night.
Yeah it's really steady up to the Lautaret from Briançon, just a long slog from Le Monêtier-les-Bains at 4-5%. It's hot though, no shade and the sun reflects back off the rocks. It's probably more likely that the the 3 2,000+m cols will do for him, rather than the Galibier itself.Correlation is not causation.0
