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  • robert88
    robert88 Posts: 2,696
    john80 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    john80 wrote:
    Robert88 wrote:
    He's ducked the Sky News Leadership debate.

    Has he realised he is simply not up to the job at last?

    Or alternatively maybe he regards the debate as not in his interests. Is it his job to go to a debate to have a likely large amount of dirt thrown at him by Hunt. If you are not a Tory member then you don't have a vote so me listening to the two of them is not particularly productive use of my time.

    Yeah, it's not like he's pitching for an important job or anything.

    I hope you joined the Tory party over three months ago to get your say in this important appointment as it clearly niggles you. Unfortunately if you have not then you have no say in this important position and should maybe take a chill pill unless you want to rewrite the rules for our parties leadership selection processes.

    Yes we are a one-party state are we not?
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,269
    Robert88 wrote:
    bianchimoon wrote:
    KingstonGraham wrote:


    First comment - "WHO TOOK THIS PHOTO? WHAT IS THEIR POLITICAL BIAS? WE MUST NAME AND SHAME! THIS WAS A PRIVATE MOMENT!!!!!!!!"
    that front cover is a mock up or a set up or an old pic right? good journo's have lost their career over less!

    Why would he grow his hair so quickly just for one photograph?
    I now think this is a next level stitch up by Osborne. Put up an obviously faked picture, move the debate back to de Pfeffel after the coordinated Con pitch to make the story about the neighbours not the a-hole responsible.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    john80 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    john80 wrote:
    Robert88 wrote:
    He's ducked the Sky News Leadership debate.

    Has he realised he is simply not up to the job at last?

    Or alternatively maybe he regards the debate as not in his interests. Is it his job to go to a debate to have a likely large amount of dirt thrown at him by Hunt. If you are not a Tory member then you don't have a vote so me listening to the two of them is not particularly productive use of my time.

    Yeah, it's not like he's pitching for an important job or anything.

    I hope you joined the Tory party over three months ago to get your say in this important appointment as it clearly niggles you. Unfortunately if you have not then you have no say in this important position and should maybe take a chill pill unless you want to rewrite the rules for our parties leadership selection processes.

    Your making clear how ridiculous it is has value in itself.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    They could do a final Jeremy Kyle as a farewell focusing on Johnson's life.

    Can bring on his ex-wives, various illegitimate children. They'll put him on a lie detector test and ask him how many kids he has.

    They'll highlight his proclivity to not caring where he parks and paying the fines like some anti-social yob. They'll discuss his drug use. How he got sacked from one of his jobs for lying. How he offered up a journo's details to be beaten up.

    They'll bring up his membership of a youth gang which vandalised restaurants and student rooms.

    What's the difference between him and folk who ended up on Jeremy Kyle?
    _
  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    They could do a final Jeremy Kyle as a farewell focusing on Johnson's life.

    Can bring on his ex-wives, various illegitimate children. They'll put him on a lie detector test and ask him how many kids he has.

    They'll highlight his proclivity to not caring where he parks and paying the fines like some anti-social yob. They'll discuss his drug use. How he got sacked from one of his jobs for lying. How he offered up a journo's details to be beaten up.

    They'll bring up his membership of a youth gang which vandalised restaurants and student rooms.

    What's the difference between him and folk who ended up on Jeremy Kyle?
    When you put it like that, he's at the same end of the spectrum, just on a different wavelength
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    They could do a final Jeremy Kyle as a farewell focusing on Johnson's life.

    Can bring on his ex-wives, various illegitimate children. They'll put him on a lie detector test and ask him how many kids he has.

    They'll highlight his proclivity to not caring where he parks and paying the fines like some anti-social yob. They'll discuss his drug use. How he got sacked from one of his jobs for lying. How he offered up a journo's details to be beaten up.

    They'll bring up his membership of a youth gang which vandalised restaurants and student rooms.

    What's the difference between him and folk who ended up on Jeremy Kyle?

    You missed that Michael Howard sacked him from the shadow cabinet for lying too.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,269
    Want some 'fun'?

    "Dear redacted

    One of our two candidates will be Prime Minister. So why not hear from them directly?

    We’re holding a digital hustings.

    That means you can hear from our candidates – and ask them questions. All from the comfort of your own home.

    So don’t miss the chance to question our next Prime Minister.

    The hustings will take place on Wednesday the 26th of June at 7pm. It’ll be streamed live on Facebook and Twitter. Let us know that you'll be watching.

    You can ask a question using #AskTheNextPM on Twitter or by posting a comment on Facebook.

    So if you want to hear from the next Prime Minister, then make sure you don't miss the hustings.

    Yours sincerely,


    The Rt Hon Brandon Lewis MP
    Conservative Party Chairman"
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    If they want to make sure it's skewed towards actual party members, they should concentrate on the Facebook comments.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,811
    KingstonGraham wrote:


    First comment - "WHO TOOK THIS PHOTO? WHAT IS THEIR POLITICAL BIAS? WE MUST NAME AND SHAME! THIS WAS A PRIVATE MOMENT!!!!!!!!"

    And now.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/george_osbor ... 4635594753

    You can almost hear George steepling his fingers.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    rjsterry wrote:
    KingstonGraham wrote:


    First comment - "WHO TOOK THIS PHOTO? WHAT IS THEIR POLITICAL BIAS? WE MUST NAME AND SHAME! THIS WAS A PRIVATE MOMENT!!!!!!!!"

    And now.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/george_osbor ... 4635594753

    You can almost hear George steepling his fingers.

    He's been looking at that survey. Vote Boris, get Corbyn is the only message that could work.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,808
    briantrumpet wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    briantrumpet wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    briantrumpet wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Appears that the people who were 'concerned for the safety' of their neighbour were lefties who are now having to defend their actions. Naturally, the two things you immediately do if you're concerned about your neighbours safety is to record the occurrence and send a copy to the Guardian :)
    So should left-wingers not be able to raise concerns about right-wingers, or contact the press, and vice versa? If a right-winger had a juicy story on Jeremy Corbyn, they shouldn't be allowed to contact The Telegraph?
    Of course they can, it's a free country. I am simply casting doubt on their motives for doing what they did. Also it appears that this thread needs a bit of balance, as do some others on here :)
    So one's motives for an action must be ideologically pure? Like politicians never pushing for something that would benefit them personally?
    Where did I say that? To repeat my point, they were less concerned about welfare than making political capital. As mentioned above looks like leftie sh1t stirring.
    Oh, you now know their motives? Good, glad we've got that cleared up.

    Even so, it's newsworthy. They had every right to contact the press, irrespective of their political leanings. Of course, press reporting pretty much relies on people with an axe to grind for getting the juicy stuff - supporters of miscreants tend not to be so keen on telling all. I trust you'll call every one out from now on.
    Blimey, things have moved on a bit since I looked on here last (been busy).

    As mentioned, simply casting doubt on their motives, which appears to have caused a minor centre left sh1t storm on here :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,808
    Rolf F wrote:
    Robert88 wrote:
    Rolf F wrote:
    I'm beginning to wonder if Stevo might be a good candidate to be the next PM. He seems to have the requisite character......

    He spends too much time on cycling forums.

    True. And, he's still someone I'd stand a drink unlike the actual candidates (Stewart aside). But he does have that whole Tory "I'm not actually prepared to own up to which pond life I'm going to vote for and say is great despite all that stuff I said about them last month and, by the way, just to distract you from your question, isn't Corbyn terrible?" thing going on perfectly!
    I'll take that as a compliment, thanks Rolf :) If you ever venture to the Big Smoke, drop me a PM.

    Cant say I'm keen on either. Boris does look like he could be better at getting the voters out (on more than one side, granted). I don't get to vote on this anyway - unlike some on here - and unfortunately science hasn't advanced to the stage where they can clone Maggie, Jurassic Park style. So I'll just sit back and see what happens...
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,811
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Rolf F wrote:
    Robert88 wrote:
    Rolf F wrote:
    I'm beginning to wonder if Stevo might be a good candidate to be the next PM. He seems to have the requisite character......

    He spends too much time on cycling forums.

    True. And, he's still someone I'd stand a drink unlike the actual candidates (Stewart aside). But he does have that whole Tory "I'm not actually prepared to own up to which pond life I'm going to vote for and say is great despite all that stuff I said about them last month and, by the way, just to distract you from your question, isn't Corbyn terrible?" thing going on perfectly!
    I'll take that as a compliment, thanks Rolf :) If you ever venture to the Big Smoke, drop me a PM.

    Cant say I'm keen on either. Boris does look like he could be better at getting the voters out (on more than one side, granted). I don't get to vote on this anyway - unlike some on here - and unfortunately science hasn't advanced to the stage where they can clone Maggie, Jurassic Park style. So I'll just sit back and see what happens...

    Indeed. For all Hunt's pointing out Johnson's lack of plans and avoidance of debate, he doesn't seem to have any better ideas on how to move forward. Just vague promises of renegotiation.
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    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,269
    Hmmm. True Blue, no vote. Hmmm.... is that all mouth and no trousers?
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    rjsterry wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Rolf F wrote:
    Robert88 wrote:
    Rolf F wrote:
    I'm beginning to wonder if Stevo might be a good candidate to be the next PM. He seems to have the requisite character......

    He spends too much time on cycling forums.

    True. And, he's still someone I'd stand a drink unlike the actual candidates (Stewart aside). But he does have that whole Tory "I'm not actually prepared to own up to which pond life I'm going to vote for and say is great despite all that stuff I said about them last month and, by the way, just to distract you from your question, isn't Corbyn terrible?" thing going on perfectly!
    I'll take that as a compliment, thanks Rolf :) If you ever venture to the Big Smoke, drop me a PM.

    Cant say I'm keen on either. Boris does look like he could be better at getting the voters out (on more than one side, granted). I don't get to vote on this anyway - unlike some on here - and unfortunately science hasn't advanced to the stage where they can clone Maggie, Jurassic Park style. So I'll just sit back and see what happens...

    Indeed. For all Hunt's pointing out Johnson's lack of plans and avoidance of debate, he doesn't seem to have any better ideas on how to move forward. Just vague promises of renegotiation.

    And somewhat hilariously Corbyn is now wading in and criticising them both for their lack of plans......

    To be fair, I think that Bojo does outclass everyone else for lack of plans beyond "renegotiating TMs deal in time for the absolutely definite withdrawal in October". And of course that is worrying as he will be the one whose lack of plans will be implemented.

    PS - ha, may take you up on that then Stevo. I do get into that London on a reasonably regular basis!
    Faster than a tent.......
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,811
    Just reading the write up of Johnson's LBC interview. Not sure why he bothered as he gave no answers to anything. He's running entirely on his 'personality' and blind optimism.
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  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965
    rjsterry wrote:
    Just reading the write up of Johnson's LBC interview. Not sure why he bothered as he gave no answers to anything. He's running entirely on his 'personality' and blind optimism.

    I watched the Laura Kuenssberg interview where she thinks that his private life should be aired. I am guessing if I asked Laura for details of her intimate private life she might not be forthcoming. Surely I need to know how one of the BBC's key political correspondents private life may or may not affect her judgement. Shame big BOJO did not ask her about the last row she had with her partner. Trump would have given it a go:)
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,811
    john80 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Just reading the write up of Johnson's LBC interview. Not sure why he bothered as he gave no answers to anything. He's running entirely on his 'personality' and blind optimism.

    I watched the Laura Kuenssberg interview where she thinks that his private life should be aired. I am guessing if I asked Laura for details of her intimate private life she might not be forthcoming. Surely I need to know how one of the BBC's key political correspondents private life may or may not affect her judgement. Shame big BOJO did not ask her about the last row she had with her partner. Trump would have given it a go:)

    I was thinking of something more substantive than the distraction of his row with his girlfriend and the obviously staged make-up photo.
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  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    edited June 2019
    john80 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Just reading the write up of Johnson's LBC interview. Not sure why he bothered as he gave no answers to anything. He's running entirely on his 'personality' and blind optimism.

    I watched the Laura Kuenssberg interview where she thinks that his private life should be aired. I am guessing if I asked Laura for details of her intimate private life she might not be forthcoming. Surely I need to know how one of the BBC's key political correspondents private life may or may not affect her judgement. Shame big BOJO did not ask her about the last row she had with her partner. Trump would have given it a go:)
    There is a legitimate argument to be had about what extent politicians' private lives should be up for scrutiny.

    Your post, however, is not that legitimate discussion, it is merely a pathetic piece of tribalist tit-for-tat whataboutery.
  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    john80 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Just reading the write up of Johnson's LBC interview. Not sure why he bothered as he gave no answers to anything. He's running entirely on his 'personality' and blind optimism.

    I watched the Laura Kuenssberg interview where she thinks that his private life should be aired. I am guessing if I asked Laura for details of her intimate private life she might not be forthcoming. Surely I need to know how one of the BBC's key political correspondents private life may or may not affect her judgement. Shame big BOZO did not ask her about the last row she had with her partner. Trump would have given it a go:)

    fixed it for ya!
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    john80 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Just reading the write up of Johnson's LBC interview. Not sure why he bothered as he gave no answers to anything. He's running entirely on his 'personality' and blind optimism.

    I watched the Laura Kuenssberg interview where she thinks that his private life should be aired. I am guessing if I asked Laura for details of her intimate private life she might not be forthcoming. Surely I need to know how one of the BBC's key political correspondents private life may or may not affect her judgement. Shame big BOJO did not ask her about the last row she had with her partner. Trump would have given it a go:)

    You do understand the concept of an interview?
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,808
    Rolf F wrote:
    PS - ha, may take you up on that then Stevo. I do get into that London on a reasonably regular basis!
    No worries Rolf, drop me PM if you're headed South and I'll see what I can do. I work pretty close to Euston & KX if you travel down by train.

    Can't guarantee that the beer will be to your liking, mind :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    rjsterry wrote:
    Just reading the write up of Johnson's LBC interview. Not sure why he bothered as he gave no answers to anything. He's running entirely on his 'personality' and blind optimism.
    In the BBC Kuensberg interview, he said, we would get together a team to put a plan together ie ere is no plan, it'll be winged when gets his dream job, and the fanboys on here just don't care
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    orraloon wrote:
    Hmmm. True Blue, no vote. Hmmm.... is that all mouth and no trousers?

    Be kicked out of the Labour party if he was a member of the Tories.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,811
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    orraloon wrote:
    Hmmm. True Blue, no vote. Hmmm.... is that all mouth and no trousers?

    Be kicked out of the Labour party if he was a member of the Tories.

    He's not a full member, just a hanger-on :).
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,811
    Hunt being interviewed now on his Brexit strategy, which will magically unite the Tories, the DUP, not include the backstop and be acceptable to the EU.

    Other than that it's a secret.

    Hunt: Johnson but with less chaos.
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  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    rjsterry wrote:
    Hunt being interviewed now on his Brexit strategy, which will magically unite the Tories, the DUP, not include the backstop and be acceptable to the EU.

    Other than that it's a secret.

    Hunt: Johnson but with less chaos.
    Great strategy. When the sch1t hits the fan, send in the clowns.
  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    darkhairedlord wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Hunt being interviewed now on his Brexit strategy, which will magically unite the Tories, the DUP, not include the backstop and be acceptable to the EU.

    Other than that it's a secret.

    Hunt: Johnson but with less chaos.
    Great strategy. When the sch1t hits the fan, send in the clowns.
    It's a class strategy by the sensible wing of the Conservatives, let a gullible pair of egomaniacs fight it out to see who can be at the helm when the shoot truly hits the fan (you aint seen nothing yet) then the MP's who kept their heads down, rebuild a moderate cons party after all the fuss has died down...
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • robert88
    robert88 Posts: 2,696
    darkhairedlord wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Hunt being interviewed now on his Brexit strategy, which will magically unite the Tories, the DUP, not include the backstop and be acceptable to the EU.

    Other than that it's a secret.

    Hunt: Johnson but with less chaos.
    Great strategy. When the sch1t hits the fan, send in the clowns.


    Coulrophobia: why clowns trigger our fear reflexes
    The “scary clown” craze has now spread to the UK. It’s widely accepted that clowns are scary. But what is it about clowns that causes fear and revulsion?
    In a year of horrifying and ridiculous happenings, the “scary clown” craze may be the most surreal yet. , because we don’t have enough awfulness going on right now. Despite the unsettling name, as far as we know, these clowns have not killed anyone yet. And yet, they’re still scary. Clowns are widely recognised as things to be feared. But… why?

    The “uncanny valley” effect is a phenomenon whereby things that look human but “aren’t quite there” are incredibly unsettling.

    the whole point of clowns is that they do things which defy normal behaviour. Unpredictability is something which causes knee-jerk distrust and apprehension in humans.

    It seems human evolution, particularly that of our brains, just didn’t equip us to deal rationally with Bozo and his pals.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,711
    This rounds up at least two threads from Cake Stop...

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