Wife of ISIS fighter wants to return to the UK
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oh dear A she's not British. B she's Bangladeshi C her crimes, which she has confessed to and shows no remorse for, mark her very clearly in the mind of any right thinkers as filth. beneath contempt.
Clearly leftie wets think otherwise. perhaps you deep thinkers should sit in the Supreme Court and ponder these things. In fact, I'm surprised you haven't been asked.
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why is it wrong?elbowloh said:
Wrong?orraloon said:
That might be a little bit too, you know, what's that phrase I'm looking for...? 🤔david37 said:kingstongraham said:What could be more British than blundering into the middle east without any idea what you're doing, then trying to work out how to get out again?
you think we should have let the unrepentant murdering Bangladeshi filth back?
are the facts not comfortable for you?
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So when does being born in Britain make you not British?0
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The unfortunate fact is that Miss Begum is British.
"Ms Begum was born in the UK to parents of Bangladeshi heritage."The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
david37 is Colin Robinson!0
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Well, she's British not Bangladeshi for a start. Also, did she murder anyone?david37 said:
why is it wrong?elbowloh said:
Wrong?orraloon said:
That might be a little bit too, you know, what's that phrase I'm looking for...? 🤔david37 said:kingstongraham said:What could be more British than blundering into the middle east without any idea what you're doing, then trying to work out how to get out again?
you think we should have let the unrepentant murdering Bangladeshi filth back?
are the facts not comfortable for you?0 -
and had her citizenship removed for terrorism services rendered.pblakeney said:The unfortunate fact is that Miss Begum is British.
"Ms Begum was born in the UK to parents of Bangladeshi heritage."
She is not British. She is a foreign terrorist. and as for did she murder? Well by her own admission she encouraged it. She even said the girls in Manchester that were murdered deserved it. Is that not good enough for you? It would be under British Law.
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My BiL was born in Warsaw to British parents.
He isn't Polish. They just happened to be working there when he was born.
The UK Supreme Court have evidently decided that Begum sacrificed her Britsih citizenship when she chose to go and become a citizen of the Islamic State, hence she can't return to challenge any charges against her.1 -
Ah that's not what they've said though I agree with the sentiment.Dorset_Boy said:My BiL was born in Warsaw to British parents.
He isn't Polish. They just happened to be working there when he was born.
The UK Supreme Court have evidently decided that Begum sacrificed her Britsih citizenship when she chose to go and become a citizen of the Islamic State, hence she can't return to challenge any charges against her.
What they've said is the Home Secretary was within his rights to do what he did but that she could have the right to a trial. When it is safe to do. just not here because she's a security risk
Of course she can't even get representation where she is because she's an ISIS terrorist so is rather stuck. But the Supreme Court did say her right to a fair trial does not supersede the right s of the British people to be protected from terrorism by the Home Secretary.
So she can have her trial, just not from within the UK. this may take some years. Hopefully a hundred.
Of course when labour get in the labour Home Secretary may decide that as a Muslim, begum is a special case. they're very pro the poor oppressed muslim are Labour.0 -
Got this certain aroma of gammon, wonder where it's coming from?0
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That is just absolving us of responsibility. I agree that should lose some freedom but slopey shouldering the issue is not a good look. Neither is forcing an unwanted citizenship onto someone, who will not be granted said citizenship.Dorset_Boy said:My BiL was born in Warsaw to British parents.
He isn't Polish. They just happened to be working there when he was born.
The UK Supreme Court have evidently decided that Begum sacrificed her Britsih citizenship when she chose to go and become a citizen of the Islamic State, hence she can't return to challenge any charges against her.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
She's a British national who was radicalised in Britain. We shouldn't absolve responsibility for dealing with out own criminals.Dorset_Boy said:My BiL was born in Warsaw to British parents.
He isn't Polish. They just happened to be working there when he was born.
The UK Supreme Court have evidently decided that Begum sacrificed her Britsih citizenship when she chose to go and become a citizen of the Islamic State, hence she can't return to challenge any charges against her.0 -
Less Colin, more Tommy.pinkbikini said:david37 is Colin Robinson!
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Our Supreme Court has made the decision.Allowing her to return to the UK would create significant national security risks and expose the public to an increased risk of terrorism.
Surely people have more interesting worthwhile things to discuss!?0 -
Oh yeah, little Tommy Two-Names. Gotta lurve a flag-wrapped 'patriot'rjsterry said:
Less Colin, more Tommy.pinkbikini said:david37 is Colin Robinson!
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With the passage of time there may be some people who may see this decision as a miscarriage of justice.
Given radicalisation is a known tactic and process of mentoring and turning impressionable people should make people pause.
There didn't seem to be much weight given to the online grooming aspect, how persuasive this was needs to be determined for a more objective view rather than binary responses.
“Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime. Teach a man to cycle and he will realize fishing is stupid and boring”
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no you're right, there is no free will. All murdering scum are a product of societyelbowloh said:
She's a British national who was radicalised in Britain. We shouldn't absolve responsibility for dealing with out own criminals.Dorset_Boy said:My BiL was born in Warsaw to British parents.
He isn't Polish. They just happened to be working there when he was born.
The UK Supreme Court have evidently decided that Begum sacrificed her Britsih citizenship when she chose to go and become a citizen of the Islamic State, hence she can't return to challenge any charges against her.
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the thing is, its the Bangladeshis that are actually making her stateless. She's their problem.pblakeney said:
That is just absolving us of responsibility. I agree that should lose some freedom but slopey shouldering the issue is not a good look. Neither is forcing an unwanted citizenship onto someone, who will not be granted said citizenship.Dorset_Boy said:My BiL was born in Warsaw to British parents.
He isn't Polish. They just happened to be working there when he was born.
The UK Supreme Court have evidently decided that Begum sacrificed her Britsih citizenship when she chose to go and become a citizen of the Islamic State, hence she can't return to challenge any charges against her.0 -
I am quite happy with the Begum a couple of thousand miles away. Call it a lesson to all those teenagers about consequences for actions. If she makes it back to Britain we can have a trial where she says she was a good girl and the prosecution calls no witnesses as they don't have any. Its different to there not being any witnesses or crimes mind.0
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If he'd gone to Polish school, spent his entire life in Poland and spoke no English, and had never set footing Britain then you'd have a hard task of convincing me that he was British though.Dorset_Boy said:My BiL was born in Warsaw to British parents.
He isn't Polish. They just happened to be working there when he was born.
The UK Supreme Court have evidently decided that Begum sacrificed her Britsih citizenship when she chose to go and become a citizen of the Islamic State, hence she can't return to challenge any charges against her.0 -
Surprised the nationalists here don’t agree that their justice system is the best and so it would be fitting for her to face British Justice.
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"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]3 -
McCanns can top that family fortune.
My view: a pretty disgusting act by the gov't.
Yes her behaviour is pretty awful but she's a British citizen and we don't appeal to the braying mob ala david and john.
I guess that's populist politics for you. Focus the mob on something which gets their hackles up which you misappropriate public money into your friends pockets.0 -
that's why we have the Supreme Court to ensure fairness. They agree too but your hate makes you blind.shirley_basso said:McCanns can top that family fortune.
My view: a pretty disgusting act by the gov't.
Yes her behaviour is pretty awful but she's a British citizen and we don't appeal to the braying mob ala david and john.
I guess that's populist politics for you. Focus the mob on something which gets their hackles up which you misappropriate public money into your friends pockets.
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FTFYshirley_basso said:
Yes her behaviour is pretty awful but she was a British citizen"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]1 -
She has faced British Justice. It seems to be working just fine.rick_chasey said:Surprised the nationalists here don’t agree that their justice system is the best and so it would be fitting for her to face British Justice.
Blah blah I did a gcse in history, Britain imperial, Britain to blame, need to see it from smug corporate admin/recruiter perspective I'm so skinny but weak but happy with my low stem blah blah blah blah
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