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If Coopster is your life raft on this thread Stevo I think it is time to admit you've been beat.0
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In a yougov poll, asked the question "Do you think the UK government have handled the situation regarding pupils’ exam results well or badly?", 12% of conservative voters answered "Well". Some people are just devotees.0
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Beat? 80 seat majority.verylonglegs said:If Coopster is your life raft on this thread Stevo I think it is time to admit you've been beat.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Blair had majorities over nearly 180 and then just under 170. Are you saying that those were therefore vastly better Governments than anything since?
I always thought a Government with a good working majority was better for getting things done than coalitions but I'm currently understanding the error of my ways.0 -
I'd argue that John Major's government was more effective when he had a majority of about five. But if you think that repeating yourself, now with pictures, is a convincing argument of an effective and competent government, carry on.Stevo_666 said:
Beat? 80 seat majority.verylonglegs said:If Coopster is your life raft on this thread Stevo I think it is time to admit you've been beat.
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BoJo has to bin his Scottish holiday that was plastered all over the front page of the mail (for security reasons), only to be greeted with another mail front page which says “Don’t let children down again”
When even the mail is after you and you’re running the most daily mail friendly policies, maybe you’re just f@cking bad at it.0 -
Not disagreeing with you that Johnson has been appalling, but the Mail under Geordie Greig is very different politically to the paper that was edited by Paul Dacre.rick_chasey said:BoJo has to bin his Scottish holiday that was plastered all over the front page of the mail (for security reasons), only to be greeted with another mail front page which says “Don’t let children down again”
When even the mail is after you and you’re running the most daily mail friendly policies, maybe you’re just f@cking bad at it.0 -
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Sure, but it's still a conservative tabloid.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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I always assumed that if Mail was after you, you were doing something right.rick_chasey said:BoJo has to bin his Scottish holiday that was plastered all over the front page of the mail (for security reasons), only to be greeted with another mail front page which says “Don’t let children down again”
When even the mail is after you and you’re running the most daily mail friendly policies, maybe you’re just f@cking bad at it.0 -
It's now a tabloid that is highly critical of the Government's policies on exiting the EU and doesn't automatically side with the Tories on every issue which I think is a step change. Still, it's worth checking in on daily to see the slebs in bikinis if nothing else.rjsterry said:Sure, but it's still a conservative tabloid.
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But they are hardly publishing Op-Eds calling for Starmer to take over; just a more competent Tory. I think you could be a committed believer in Brexit and still be deeply disappointed in how the government is handling the whole thing.shortfall said:
It's now a tabloid that is highly critical of the Government's policies on exiting the EU and doesn't automatically side with the Tories on every issue which I think is a step change. Still, it's worth checking in on daily to see the slebs in bikinis if nothing else.rjsterry said:Sure, but it's still a conservative tabloid.
I'll take your word on the slebs 😊1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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That's where I am with it.rjsterry said:
I think you could be a committed believer in Brexit and still be deeply disappointed in how the government is handling the whole thing.shortfall said:
It's now a tabloid that is highly critical of the Government's policies on exiting the EU and doesn't automatically side with the Tories on every issue which I think is a step change. Still, it's worth checking in on daily to see the slebs in bikinis if nothing else.rjsterry said:Sure, but it's still a conservative tabloid.
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Brian, I'm not arguing for anything, the above is just a reminder of the reality beyond the Cake Stop bubble.briantrumpet said:
I'd argue that John Major's government was more effective when he had a majority of about five. But if you think that repeating yourself, now with pictures, is a convincing argument of an effective and competent government, carry on.Stevo_666 said:
Beat? 80 seat majority.verylonglegs said:If Coopster is your life raft on this thread Stevo I think it is time to admit you've been beat.
VLL is claiming that I'm beat but he doesn't seem to know what the argument was about. As far as I can see a few of the great and the good of Cake Stop asked me to say a few positives about Boris which I did. They then asked me to say something negative and got increasingly hot under the collar when I declined to indulge them. Someone even called me a nutter
So can you point out again what point I'm trying to argue? Maybe quote an earlier post of mine."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
(Article isn't paywalled for me at least)0 -
Sure. The rest of us have moved on from last year's election result and looking at what they are actually doing (or not doing) now. The fact that winning the election was even on the list shows how slim the pickings are. It's like going to your one year performance review and answering the question 'what have you done well?' with 'I got the job!' So we have:Stevo_666 said:
Brian, I'm not arguing for anything, the above is just a reminder of the reality beyond the Cake Stop bubble.briantrumpet said:
I'd argue that John Major's government was more effective when he had a majority of about five. But if you think that repeating yourself, now with pictures, is a convincing argument of an effective and competent government, carry on.Stevo_666 said:
Beat? 80 seat majority.verylonglegs said:If Coopster is your life raft on this thread Stevo I think it is time to admit you've been beat.
VLL is claiming that I'm beat but he doesn't seem to know what the argument was about. As far as I can see a few of the great and the good of Cake Stop asked me to say a few positives about Boris which I did. They then asked me to say something negative and got increasingly hot under the collar when I declined to indulge them. Someone even called me a nutter
So can you point out again what point I'm trying to argue? Maybe quote an earlier post of mine.
- agreed the WA.
- Treasury responses to pandemic.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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rjsterry said:
Sure. The rest of us have moved on from last year's election result and looking at what they are actually doing (or not doing) now. The fact that winning the election was even on the list shows how slim the pickings are. It's like going to your one year performance review and answering the question 'what have you done well?' with 'I got the job!' So we have:Stevo_666 said:
Brian, I'm not arguing for anything, the above is just a reminder of the reality beyond the Cake Stop bubble.briantrumpet said:
I'd argue that John Major's government was more effective when he had a majority of about five. But if you think that repeating yourself, now with pictures, is a convincing argument of an effective and competent government, carry on.Stevo_666 said:
Beat? 80 seat majority.verylonglegs said:If Coopster is your life raft on this thread Stevo I think it is time to admit you've been beat.
VLL is claiming that I'm beat but he doesn't seem to know what the argument was about. As far as I can see a few of the great and the good of Cake Stop asked me to say a few positives about Boris which I did. They then asked me to say something negative and got increasingly hot under the collar when I declined to indulge them. Someone even called me a nutter
So can you point out again what point I'm trying to argue? Maybe quote an earlier post of mine.
- agreed the WA.
- Treasury responses to pandemic.rjsterry said:
Sure. The rest of us have moved on from last year's election result and looking at what they are actually doing (or not doing) now. The fact that winning the election was even on the list shows how slim the pickings are. It's like going to your one year performance review and answering the question 'what have you done well?' with 'I got the job!' So we have:Stevo_666 said:
Brian, I'm not arguing for anything, the above is just a reminder of the reality beyond the Cake Stop bubble.briantrumpet said:
I'd argue that John Major's government was more effective when he had a majority of about five. But if you think that repeating yourself, now with pictures, is a convincing argument of an effective and competent government, carry on.Stevo_666 said:
Beat? 80 seat majority.verylonglegs said:If Coopster is your life raft on this thread Stevo I think it is time to admit you've been beat.
VLL is claiming that I'm beat but he doesn't seem to know what the argument was about. As far as I can see a few of the great and the good of Cake Stop asked me to say a few positives about Boris which I did. They then asked me to say something negative and got increasingly hot under the collar when I declined to indulge them. Someone even called me a nutter
So can you point out again what point I'm trying to argue? Maybe quote an earlier post of mine.
- agreed the WA.
- Treasury responses to pandemic.rjsterry said:
Sure. The rest of us have moved on from last year's election result and looking at what they are actually doing (or not doing) now. The fact that winning the election was even on the list shows how slim the pickings are. It's like going to your one year performance review and answering the question 'what have you done well?' with 'I got the job!' So we have:Stevo_666 said:
Brian, I'm not arguing for anything, the above is just a reminder of the reality beyond the Cake Stop bubble.briantrumpet said:
I'd argue that John Major's government was more effective when he had a majority of about five. But if you think that repeating yourself, now with pictures, is a convincing argument of an effective and competent government, carry on.Stevo_666 said:
Beat? 80 seat majority.verylonglegs said:If Coopster is your life raft on this thread Stevo I think it is time to admit you've been beat.
VLL is claiming that I'm beat but he doesn't seem to know what the argument was about. As far as I can see a few of the great and the good of Cake Stop asked me to say a few positives about Boris which I did. They then asked me to say something negative and got increasingly hot under the collar when I declined to indulge them. Someone even called me a nutter
So can you point out again what point I'm trying to argue? Maybe quote an earlier post of mine.
- agreed the WA.
- Treasury responses to pandemic.
Thanks RJS - that saved me typing much the same. If Stevo were ever unfortunate enough to end up in a care home, I'm starting to think he'd be mumbling "But Johnson has an 80 seat majority!" in response to any question, including what he'd like for pudding.0 -
Another Telegraph writer on the incompetence of the Government (the one with the 80-seat majority), this time Bryony Gordon. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/house-arrest-going-france-did-come/0
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None of that answers the question - because the answer is I wasn't. If I had you might have quoted a recent post on this thread. I was simply responding (or not) to the attempted centre leftie inquisition.briantrumpet said:rjsterry said:
Sure. The rest of us have moved on from last year's election result and looking at what they are actually doing (or not doing) now. The fact that winning the election was even on the list shows how slim the pickings are. It's like going to your one year performance review and answering the question 'what have you done well?' with 'I got the job!' So we have:Stevo_666 said:
Brian, I'm not arguing for anything, the above is just a reminder of the reality beyond the Cake Stop bubble.briantrumpet said:
I'd argue that John Major's government was more effective when he had a majority of about five. But if you think that repeating yourself, now with pictures, is a convincing argument of an effective and competent government, carry on.Stevo_666 said:
Beat? 80 seat majority.verylonglegs said:If Coopster is your life raft on this thread Stevo I think it is time to admit you've been beat.
VLL is claiming that I'm beat but he doesn't seem to know what the argument was about. As far as I can see a few of the great and the good of Cake Stop asked me to say a few positives about Boris which I did. They then asked me to say something negative and got increasingly hot under the collar when I declined to indulge them. Someone even called me a nutter
So can you point out again what point I'm trying to argue? Maybe quote an earlier post of mine.
- agreed the WA.
- Treasury responses to pandemic.rjsterry said:
Sure. The rest of us have moved on from last year's election result and looking at what they are actually doing (or not doing) now. The fact that winning the election was even on the list shows how slim the pickings are. It's like going to your one year performance review and answering the question 'what have you done well?' with 'I got the job!' So we have:Stevo_666 said:
Brian, I'm not arguing for anything, the above is just a reminder of the reality beyond the Cake Stop bubble.briantrumpet said:
I'd argue that John Major's government was more effective when he had a majority of about five. But if you think that repeating yourself, now with pictures, is a convincing argument of an effective and competent government, carry on.Stevo_666 said:
Beat? 80 seat majority.verylonglegs said:If Coopster is your life raft on this thread Stevo I think it is time to admit you've been beat.
VLL is claiming that I'm beat but he doesn't seem to know what the argument was about. As far as I can see a few of the great and the good of Cake Stop asked me to say a few positives about Boris which I did. They then asked me to say something negative and got increasingly hot under the collar when I declined to indulge them. Someone even called me a nutter
So can you point out again what point I'm trying to argue? Maybe quote an earlier post of mine.
- agreed the WA.
- Treasury responses to pandemic.rjsterry said:
Sure. The rest of us have moved on from last year's election result and looking at what they are actually doing (or not doing) now. The fact that winning the election was even on the list shows how slim the pickings are. It's like going to your one year performance review and answering the question 'what have you done well?' with 'I got the job!' So we have:Stevo_666 said:
Brian, I'm not arguing for anything, the above is just a reminder of the reality beyond the Cake Stop bubble.briantrumpet said:
I'd argue that John Major's government was more effective when he had a majority of about five. But if you think that repeating yourself, now with pictures, is a convincing argument of an effective and competent government, carry on.Stevo_666 said:
Beat? 80 seat majority.verylonglegs said:If Coopster is your life raft on this thread Stevo I think it is time to admit you've been beat.
VLL is claiming that I'm beat but he doesn't seem to know what the argument was about. As far as I can see a few of the great and the good of Cake Stop asked me to say a few positives about Boris which I did. They then asked me to say something negative and got increasingly hot under the collar when I declined to indulge them. Someone even called me a nutter
So can you point out again what point I'm trying to argue? Maybe quote an earlier post of mine.
- agreed the WA.
- Treasury responses to pandemic.
Thanks RJS - that saved me typing much the same. If Stevo were ever unfortunate enough to end up in a care home, I'm starting to think he'd be mumbling "But Johnson has an 80 seat majority!" in response to any question, including what he'd like for pudding.
Some of you lot are imagining an argument so you can try to claim a win. It may be the only way..."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Not trying to have or win an argument, just wondering what you think.
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Both "the government continues to be without fault and has not put a step wrong in their handling of (x)" and "the government has seriously messed up in the handling of (x) but is still the best option because of (y)" are views to take.
"The government is the best because we won" is less valid, in my view.1 -
The last part is just an attempt to put words into my mouth. The first two are things you have said, not me.kingstongraham said:Both "the government continues to be without fault and has not put a step wrong in their handling of (x)" and "the government has seriously messed up in the handling of (x) but is still the best option because of (y)" are views to take.
"The government is the best because we won" is less valid, in my view.
As I said above, quote me where I have made the alleged arguments in the relevant part i.e. last couple of days) of this thread, or stop making things up."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I think about lots of things. But I'm not minded to just tell people what they want to hear. Not really a debate is it.kingstongraham said:Not trying to have or win an argument, just wondering what you think.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
HAHStevo_666 said:
Some of you lot are imagining an argument so you can try to claim a win. It may be the only way...briantrumpet said:rjsterry said:
Sure. The rest of us have moved on from last year's election result and looking at what they are actually doing (or not doing) now. The fact that winning the election was even on the list shows how slim the pickings are. It's like going to your one year performance review and answering the question 'what have you done well?' with 'I got the job!' So we have:Stevo_666 said:
Brian, I'm not arguing for anything, the above is just a reminder of the reality beyond the Cake Stop bubble.briantrumpet said:
I'd argue that John Major's government was more effective when he had a majority of about five. But if you think that repeating yourself, now with pictures, is a convincing argument of an effective and competent government, carry on.Stevo_666 said:
Beat? 80 seat majority.verylonglegs said:If Coopster is your life raft on this thread Stevo I think it is time to admit you've been beat.
VLL is claiming that I'm beat but he doesn't seem to know what the argument was about. As far as I can see a few of the great and the good of Cake Stop asked me to say a few positives about Boris which I did. They then asked me to say something negative and got increasingly hot under the collar when I declined to indulge them. Someone even called me a nutter
So can you point out again what point I'm trying to argue? Maybe quote an earlier post of mine.
- agreed the WA.
- Treasury responses to pandemic.rjsterry said:
Sure. The rest of us have moved on from last year's election result and looking at what they are actually doing (or not doing) now. The fact that winning the election was even on the list shows how slim the pickings are. It's like going to your one year performance review and answering the question 'what have you done well?' with 'I got the job!' So we have:Stevo_666 said:
Brian, I'm not arguing for anything, the above is just a reminder of the reality beyond the Cake Stop bubble.briantrumpet said:
I'd argue that John Major's government was more effective when he had a majority of about five. But if you think that repeating yourself, now with pictures, is a convincing argument of an effective and competent government, carry on.Stevo_666 said:
Beat? 80 seat majority.verylonglegs said:If Coopster is your life raft on this thread Stevo I think it is time to admit you've been beat.
VLL is claiming that I'm beat but he doesn't seem to know what the argument was about. As far as I can see a few of the great and the good of Cake Stop asked me to say a few positives about Boris which I did. They then asked me to say something negative and got increasingly hot under the collar when I declined to indulge them. Someone even called me a nutter
So can you point out again what point I'm trying to argue? Maybe quote an earlier post of mine.
- agreed the WA.
- Treasury responses to pandemic.rjsterry said:
Sure. The rest of us have moved on from last year's election result and looking at what they are actually doing (or not doing) now. The fact that winning the election was even on the list shows how slim the pickings are. It's like going to your one year performance review and answering the question 'what have you done well?' with 'I got the job!' So we have:Stevo_666 said:
Brian, I'm not arguing for anything, the above is just a reminder of the reality beyond the Cake Stop bubble.briantrumpet said:
I'd argue that John Major's government was more effective when he had a majority of about five. But if you think that repeating yourself, now with pictures, is a convincing argument of an effective and competent government, carry on.Stevo_666 said:
Beat? 80 seat majority.verylonglegs said:If Coopster is your life raft on this thread Stevo I think it is time to admit you've been beat.
VLL is claiming that I'm beat but he doesn't seem to know what the argument was about. As far as I can see a few of the great and the good of Cake Stop asked me to say a few positives about Boris which I did. They then asked me to say something negative and got increasingly hot under the collar when I declined to indulge them. Someone even called me a nutter
So can you point out again what point I'm trying to argue? Maybe quote an earlier post of mine.
- agreed the WA.
- Treasury responses to pandemic.
Thanks RJS - that saved me typing much the same. If Stevo were ever unfortunate enough to end up in a care home, I'm starting to think he'd be mumbling "But Johnson has an 80 seat majority!" in response to any question, including what he'd like for pudding.- Genesis Croix de Fer
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Same point to you - quote a recent post on here to show what I'm allegedly arguing about. Or get back under your bridgepangolin said:
HAHStevo_666 said:
Some of you lot are imagining an argument so you can try to claim a win. It may be the only way...briantrumpet said:rjsterry said:
Sure. The rest of us have moved on from last year's election result and looking at what they are actually doing (or not doing) now. The fact that winning the election was even on the list shows how slim the pickings are. It's like going to your one year performance review and answering the question 'what have you done well?' with 'I got the job!' So we have:Stevo_666 said:
Brian, I'm not arguing for anything, the above is just a reminder of the reality beyond the Cake Stop bubble.briantrumpet said:
I'd argue that John Major's government was more effective when he had a majority of about five. But if you think that repeating yourself, now with pictures, is a convincing argument of an effective and competent government, carry on.Stevo_666 said:
Beat? 80 seat majority.verylonglegs said:If Coopster is your life raft on this thread Stevo I think it is time to admit you've been beat.
VLL is claiming that I'm beat but he doesn't seem to know what the argument was about. As far as I can see a few of the great and the good of Cake Stop asked me to say a few positives about Boris which I did. They then asked me to say something negative and got increasingly hot under the collar when I declined to indulge them. Someone even called me a nutter
So can you point out again what point I'm trying to argue? Maybe quote an earlier post of mine.
- agreed the WA.
- Treasury responses to pandemic.rjsterry said:
Sure. The rest of us have moved on from last year's election result and looking at what they are actually doing (or not doing) now. The fact that winning the election was even on the list shows how slim the pickings are. It's like going to your one year performance review and answering the question 'what have you done well?' with 'I got the job!' So we have:Stevo_666 said:
Brian, I'm not arguing for anything, the above is just a reminder of the reality beyond the Cake Stop bubble.briantrumpet said:
I'd argue that John Major's government was more effective when he had a majority of about five. But if you think that repeating yourself, now with pictures, is a convincing argument of an effective and competent government, carry on.Stevo_666 said:
Beat? 80 seat majority.verylonglegs said:If Coopster is your life raft on this thread Stevo I think it is time to admit you've been beat.
VLL is claiming that I'm beat but he doesn't seem to know what the argument was about. As far as I can see a few of the great and the good of Cake Stop asked me to say a few positives about Boris which I did. They then asked me to say something negative and got increasingly hot under the collar when I declined to indulge them. Someone even called me a nutter
So can you point out again what point I'm trying to argue? Maybe quote an earlier post of mine.
- agreed the WA.
- Treasury responses to pandemic.rjsterry said:
Sure. The rest of us have moved on from last year's election result and looking at what they are actually doing (or not doing) now. The fact that winning the election was even on the list shows how slim the pickings are. It's like going to your one year performance review and answering the question 'what have you done well?' with 'I got the job!' So we have:Stevo_666 said:
Brian, I'm not arguing for anything, the above is just a reminder of the reality beyond the Cake Stop bubble.briantrumpet said:
I'd argue that John Major's government was more effective when he had a majority of about five. But if you think that repeating yourself, now with pictures, is a convincing argument of an effective and competent government, carry on.Stevo_666 said:
Beat? 80 seat majority.verylonglegs said:If Coopster is your life raft on this thread Stevo I think it is time to admit you've been beat.
VLL is claiming that I'm beat but he doesn't seem to know what the argument was about. As far as I can see a few of the great and the good of Cake Stop asked me to say a few positives about Boris which I did. They then asked me to say something negative and got increasingly hot under the collar when I declined to indulge them. Someone even called me a nutter
So can you point out again what point I'm trying to argue? Maybe quote an earlier post of mine.
- agreed the WA.
- Treasury responses to pandemic.
Thanks RJS - that saved me typing much the same. If Stevo were ever unfortunate enough to end up in a care home, I'm starting to think he'd be mumbling "But Johnson has an 80 seat majority!" in response to any question, including what he'd like for pudding. "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Listen, the main thing is Johnson's had a good break and has managed to get a shot out of himself with his child strapped to his chest.
Now he can get back to his eighty seat majority.0 -
Please quote the relevant post for me, as I can't remember it.rick_chasey said:Bold interpretation of WA as a success
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
This?Stevo_666 said:
Oh OK then.orraloon said:
Still waiting...orraloon said:Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.
- Won an 80 seat majority
- Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
- Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes
- Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
- Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
- Pi $$ed you off no end
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I, for one, am glad that since taking over Johnson hasn’t felt the Uk is in a bad enough crisis to get stuck in himself.kingstongraham said:
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