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FTFYrick_chasey said:Remarkable. The UK is so much more like NI that the UK thinks it is.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
It was the expert handling of the GCSE results wot done it.rick_chasey said:
Remarkable. The UK is so much more like the US that the UK thinks it is.tailwindhome said:Is everything OK over there?
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In the words of Spitting Image Maggie, “Ah, Scotland. The testing ground”*.briantrumpet said:
Telegraph carrying on with criticism, mostly on this point, and the fact that the Govt seem to be following Sturgeon's decisions three days later. I must quiz my civil service mole, but it appears to be a true omnishambles with Johnson 'leading' the party.rjsterry said:Sounds like that 80 seat majority are getting fed up with the boss's preference for centralised autocratic decision making. Listening to the interview this morning I had to remind myself that he was talking about his own party leader.
*Was referring to the poll tax at the time.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
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When do people think he'll go?briantrumpet said:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/29/boris-johnson-faces-tory-wrath-as-party-slumps-in-shock-poll
"80-seat majority", of course.
6 months? A year? Can't last another 4 years, that's for sure.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Trying to govern by keeping people happy was always a recipe for disaster. Bizarre how they thought the stats were the solution to everything.
It's like letting the kids decide everything and then realising there is no organisation and everything has turned out crap.
Good leadership isn't about trying to keep everybody on side. It's about trying to achieve what you believe in and trying to get others to believe in that vision.
A sad and sorry excuse of a government with a pitifully talentless cabinet of yes men (other gender/s are available).
I see Grayling has left the committee where he was unable to win an election rigged in his favour.1 -
His position is becoming more untenable by the day.
Even the 1922 lot have had enough.
“ Charles Walker, deputy chair of the 1922 Committee, said it was becoming "increasingly difficult" for Tory MPs to defend government policy.”The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
ST is reporting that they are going to do the full Corbyn and borrow (pun intended) his tax proposals for the rich and business.
I look forwards to seeing SteveO tie himself in knots supporting a rise in Corporation Tax.0 -
Weird, The Telegraph website makes no mention of the Opinium poll. Even the Daily Mail does. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8677977/Conservatives-Labour-LEVEL-new-opinion-poll.html
Mind you, they are reporting another Government U-turn, this time on the drive to shame people into going back into offices to support the sandwich trade. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-news-covid-cases-face-masks-school-work/
What's going to be the next U-turn from this government with an 80-seat majority?0 -
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Don't Stay Home
Protectthe NHScorporate profits
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Since when is it the Government's business to tell employers where they should base their staff?1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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rick_chasey said:
Maybe this change is rather like the development of the railways so soon after the development of the canal system: the past forty years has seen centralised office work become the norm, especially centred on London, and a whole economic structure has built up around that (especially transport and office space). And then, all of a sudden, CV19 came along and smashed the chimera of the necessity of that way of working. Businesses have realised that they have bought into a model that was a temporary solution: something better came along. (Well, it's been there for some time, but CV19 came along at the time when 'the internet' really could pretty much cope with the demand.)
Maybe, eventually, there will be an "Office & Commuting Trust", which will aim to preserve these relics of a past way of working, and turn the facilities over to the leisure industry, to preserve them for the amusement of future generations.0 -
TBH, I find the lack of bigger picture thinking surprising.
There is a housing shortage and both high street property and now potentially office space in cities have a huge surplus.
Doesn't take a genius to make the case for repurposing property. And yes, I'm well aware there are planning considerations. Doesn't change the fact that we potentially have simultaneous property shortages and surpluses within the same areas.0 -
But why would you want an inner city flat when you don’t need to commute and there are no facilities to use?morstar said:TBH, I find the lack of bigger picture thinking surprising.
There is a housing shortage and both high street property and now potentially office space in cities have a huge surplus.
Doesn't take a genius to make the case for repurposing property. And yes, I'm well aware there are planning considerations. Doesn't change the fact that we potentially have simultaneous property shortages and surpluses within the same areas.0 -
Nice and close to the pret museumsurrey_commuter said:
But why would you want an inner city flat when you don’t need to commute and there are no facilities to use?morstar said:TBH, I find the lack of bigger picture thinking surprising.
There is a housing shortage and both high street property and now potentially office space in cities have a huge surplus.
Doesn't take a genius to make the case for repurposing property. And yes, I'm well aware there are planning considerations. Doesn't change the fact that we potentially have simultaneous property shortages and surpluses within the same areas.- Genesis Croix de Fer
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People will eventually return and if they don’t the prets wont want to be there anyway.
UK was always gonna be reluctant to return as it is a nation of commuters.
Coronavirus is an experiment in wfh and it turns out it’s still productive so people wonder why they should schlep in 5 days a week when 2 or 3 will suffice and they can save literally thousands on the commute *and* spend more time with the family.0 -
Plenty of people like city life. If the market was left to set the pricing, do you really think they wouldn't sell? A lot of people can't afford housing at present.surrey_commuter said:
But why would you want an inner city flat when you don’t need to commute and there are no facilities to use?morstar said:TBH, I find the lack of bigger picture thinking surprising.
There is a housing shortage and both high street property and now potentially office space in cities have a huge surplus.
Doesn't take a genius to make the case for repurposing property. And yes, I'm well aware there are planning considerations. Doesn't change the fact that we potentially have simultaneous property shortages and surpluses within the same areas.0 -
In our home mum and dad are now both home for dinner, one of us is home after school, we're saving around 500 miles a week in car journeys and both more productive in our roles
It's nothing to do with being scared of C19... The pandemic was just a catalyst and showed a different way of life was possible.
Things change
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!1 -
tailwindhome said:
In our home mum and dad are now both home for dinner, one of us is home after school, we're saving around 500 miles a week in car journeys and both more productive in our roles
It's nothing to do with being scared of C19... The pandemic was just a catalyst and showed a different way of life was possible.
Things change
The general impression I'm getting, as a non-office worker, is that both the businesses and the office-workers are pretty happy with WFH, with the flexibility of the in-office option part of the arrangements. It seems like the best of both worlds, unless your business is developing and renting out office space or upmarket sandwich franchises, or a government that's getting its ear bent by said businesses.0 -
Same same. Had a review at work and it was the best I had ever had and it was all done wfh.tailwindhome said:In our home mum and dad are now both home for dinner, one of us is home after school, we're saving around 500 miles a week in car journeys and both more productive in our roles
It's nothing to do with being scared of C19... The pandemic was just a catalyst and showed a different way of life was possible.
Things change
I do not intend to return to the office 5 days a week and will ask for 3 days on 2 days off (flexi) on full return and see how it goes.
I anticipate it to be totally fine.
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You didn't like the stay at home messaging? This is just the reverse.rjsterry said:Since when is it the Government's business to tell employers where they should base their staff?
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TheBigBean said:
You didn't like the stay at home messaging? This is just the reverse.rjsterry said:Since when is it the Government's business to tell employers where they should base their staff?
One was for health. The other isn't.0 -
I don't think people working from home is as productive. It is also quite isolating in the long run. My colleague who hasn't been in the office for over five years, had a really rough time at one point.0
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TheBigBean said:
I don't think people working from home is as productive. It is also quite isolating in the long run. My colleague who hasn't been in the office for over five years, had a really rough time at one point.
I'm assuming all businesses will have data on that, and can make their own decisions.0 -
Of course, but by the sounds of it, a lot are quite new to it. It is worth noting the productivity increase that came from the increase in open plan offices - this would be the reverse of an open plan office.briantrumpet said:TheBigBean said:I don't think people working from home is as productive. It is also quite isolating in the long run. My colleague who hasn't been in the office for over five years, had a really rough time at one point.
I'm assuming all businesses will have data on that, and can make their own decisions.0 -
TheBigBean said:
Of course, but by the sounds of it, a lot are quite new to it. It is worth noting the productivity increase that came from the increase in open plan offices - this would be the reverse of an open plan office.briantrumpet said:TheBigBean said:I don't think people working from home is as productive. It is also quite isolating in the long run. My colleague who hasn't been in the office for over five years, had a really rough time at one point.
I'm assuming all businesses will have data on that, and can make their own decisions.
But that doesn't change the fact that the individual businesses are best placed to make those decisions. In this era of big data, hunches and guesses take a back seat. Maybe this is one of those 'paradigm shifts' that occurs from time to time. If those banking on a never-ending increase in demand for city centre offices and overpriced sandwiches didn't see it coming, it's not the job of other businesses to prop them up. I think that's one of the bases of capitalism and the free market, isn't it?0
