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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,820

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes
    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    Only one of those answers the question of why having Boris as PM is good for dUK (what is the “d”)

    I am sure even I could come up with more than one
    Depends on your point of view really.

    But feel free to add to the list, I did just write what sprung to mind as questions from Leftieloon don't really warrant me spending much time on them.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,271


    Only one of those answers the question of why having Boris as PM is good for dUK (what is the “d”)

    How "united" do you think is the UK?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/aug/20/firm-linked-to-gove-and-cummings-hired-to-work-with-ofqual-on-a-levels

    There is a real pattern here of this government giving contracts out to mates without going to tender.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    "The firm is understood to have been initially contracted to assist Ofqual with communicating its A-level and GSCE results plan to help secure public confidence in the strategy."

    At least the communication was so spot on that everyone has confidence in the strategy and nobody can deny they were the best.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,660
    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes

    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    So two if you remove the 'owned the libs' points you've been forced to add to pad it out.
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • pangolin said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes

    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    So two if you remove the 'owned the libs' points you've been forced to add to pad it out.
    I did not allow that as anybody could have folded like a cheap suit. As they seem to have no desire to strike a realistic FTA they could have saved themselves the trouble.

    I will add that in the face of international political pressure they awarded a contract to build 5G to the best provider.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    I thought the Tories were unhappy with the WA???
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,814

    pangolin said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes

    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    So two if you remove the 'owned the libs' points you've been forced to add to pad it out.
    I did not allow that as anybody could have folded like a cheap suit. As they seem to have no desire to strike a realistic FTA they could have saved themselves the trouble.

    I will add that in the face of international political pressure they awarded a contract to build 5G to the best provider.
    😄
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    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228

    pangolin said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes

    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    So two if you remove the 'owned the libs' points you've been forced to add to pad it out.
    I did not allow that as anybody could have folded like a cheap suit. As they seem to have no desire to strike a realistic FTA they could have saved themselves the trouble.

    I will add that in the face of international political pressure they awarded a contract to build 5G to the best provider.
    Bill Gates?
  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    edited August 2020
    pangolin said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes

    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    So two if you remove the 'owned the libs' points you've been forced to add to pad it out.
    The 'libs' having lost massively in the election, are now trying to change the narrative from the truth that is the electorate rejected them and their extremist views :smiley:
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,660

    pangolin said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes

    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    So two if you remove the 'owned the libs' points you've been forced to add to pad it out.
    The 'libs' having lost massively in the election, are now trying to change the narrative from the truth that is the electorate rejected them and their extremist views :smiley:
    No... as usual... you and Stevo are trying to change the narrative to "but, but, we won the election!". Very predictable and boring as many have said.

    The actual question was - what has Boris done as PM that you think is good?
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    - Dolan Tuono
  • pangolin said:

    pangolin said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes

    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    So two if you remove the 'owned the libs' points you've been forced to add to pad it out.
    The 'libs' having lost massively in the election, are now trying to change the narrative from the truth that is the electorate rejected them and their extremist views :smiley:
    No... as usual... you and Stevo are trying to change the narrative to "but, but, we won the election!". Very predictable and boring as many have said.

    The actual question was - what has Boris done as PM that you think is good?
    not being pedantic but it is actually has to be good for the UK
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,660
    Sorry yes Orraloon asked, what are the plus points for the UK of having him as PM.
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    - Dolan Tuono
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228

    pangolin said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes

    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    So two if you remove the 'owned the libs' points you've been forced to add to pad it out.
    The 'libs' having lost massively in the election, are now trying to change the narrative from the truth that is the electorate rejected them and their extremist views :smiley:
    That's the fifth entry that is "own the libs" then. Can we aggregate them?
  • pangolin said:

    Sorry yes Orraloon asked, what are the plus points for the UK of having him as PM.

    if we don't clarify that then it will just become a long list of narcissistic, indolent, in-breds for whom his premiership is good news
  • pangolin said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes

    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    So two if you remove the 'owned the libs' points you've been forced to add to pad it out.
    The 'libs' having lost massively in the election, are now trying to change the narrative from the truth that is the electorate rejected them and their extremist views :smiley:
    That's the fifth entry that is "own the libs" then. Can we aggregate them?
    See, this is the narrative change that the "libs" are trying to achieve. It wasn't "owning the libs" but via Boris the electorate sent a strong message to our elected representatives that we don't like those with extremist views who don't respect democracy.

    You and other "libs" can say this is "owning the libs" but in reality it is the electorate sending a message to the extremists who refused to respect democracy and thankfully democracy won!
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228

    pangolin said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes

    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    So two if you remove the 'owned the libs' points you've been forced to add to pad it out.
    The 'libs' having lost massively in the election, are now trying to change the narrative from the truth that is the electorate rejected them and their extremist views :smiley:
    That's the fifth entry that is "own the libs" then. Can we aggregate them?
    See, this is the narrative change that the "libs" are trying to achieve. It wasn't "owning the libs" but via Boris the electorate sent a strong message to our elected representatives that we don't like those with extremist views who don't respect democracy.

    You and other "libs" can say this is "owning the libs" but in reality it is the electorate sending a message to the extremists who refused to respect democracy and thankfully democracy won!
    That's number 6. We understand that you consider telling the libs that you won to be a valid end in itself.
  • pangolin said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes

    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    So two if you remove the 'owned the libs' points you've been forced to add to pad it out.
    The 'libs' having lost massively in the election, are now trying to change the narrative from the truth that is the electorate rejected them and their extremist views :smiley:
    That's the fifth entry that is "own the libs" then. Can we aggregate them?
    See, this is the narrative change that the "libs" are trying to achieve. It wasn't "owning the libs" but via Boris the electorate sent a strong message to our elected representatives that we don't like those with extremist views who don't respect democracy.

    You and other "libs" can say this is "owning the libs" but in reality it is the electorate sending a message to the extremists who refused to respect democracy and thankfully democracy won!
    That's number 6. We understand that you consider telling the libs that you won to be a valid end in itself.
    The last 24 hours has shown that the "libs" are still refusing to respect democratic outcomes :smiley:
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228

    pangolin said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes

    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    So two if you remove the 'owned the libs' points you've been forced to add to pad it out.
    The 'libs' having lost massively in the election, are now trying to change the narrative from the truth that is the electorate rejected them and their extremist views :smiley:
    That's the fifth entry that is "own the libs" then. Can we aggregate them?
    See, this is the narrative change that the "libs" are trying to achieve. It wasn't "owning the libs" but via Boris the electorate sent a strong message to our elected representatives that we don't like those with extremist views who don't respect democracy.

    You and other "libs" can say this is "owning the libs" but in reality it is the electorate sending a message to the extremists who refused to respect democracy and thankfully democracy won!
    That's number 6. We understand that you consider telling the libs that you won to be a valid end in itself.
    The last 24 hours has shown that the "libs" are still refusing to respect democratic outcomes :smiley:
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  • pangolin said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes

    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    So two if you remove the 'owned the libs' points you've been forced to add to pad it out.
    The 'libs' having lost massively in the election, are now trying to change the narrative from the truth that is the electorate rejected them and their extremist views :smiley:
    That's the fifth entry that is "own the libs" then. Can we aggregate them?
    See, this is the narrative change that the "libs" are trying to achieve. It wasn't "owning the libs" but via Boris the electorate sent a strong message to our elected representatives that we don't like those with extremist views who don't respect democracy.

    You and other "libs" can say this is "owning the libs" but in reality it is the electorate sending a message to the extremists who refused to respect democracy and thankfully democracy won!
    That's number 6. We understand that you consider telling the libs that you won to be a valid end in itself.
    I read an article recently that demonstrated that liberalism and economic prosperity are strongly correlated, therefore p1ssing off the libs is not good for the UK.

    the article suggested that to level up the North you would have to make it attractive to the libs with an acceptance of minorities, and embrace the arts and culture
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,820
    pangolin said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes

    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    So two if you remove the 'owned the libs' points you've been forced to add to pad it out.
    It was my view he asked for and that's what counts in answering this :smile:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,820

    pangolin said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes

    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    So two if you remove the 'owned the libs' points you've been forced to add to pad it out.
    The 'libs' having lost massively in the election, are now trying to change the narrative from the truth that is the electorate rejected them and their extremist views :smiley:
    That's the fifth entry that is "own the libs" then. Can we aggregate them?
    See, this is the narrative change that the "libs" are trying to achieve. It wasn't "owning the libs" but via Boris the electorate sent a strong message to our elected representatives that we don't like those with extremist views who don't respect democracy.

    You and other "libs" can say this is "owning the libs" but in reality it is the electorate sending a message to the extremists who refused to respect democracy and thankfully democracy won!
    That's number 6. We understand that you consider telling the libs that you won to be a valid end in itself.
    The last 24 hours has shown that the "libs" are still refusing to respect democratic outcomes :smiley:
    The delusion is still strong in these young liberal Jedi.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    Winning is a means to an end, surely. Not an end in itself?
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,869
    Stevo_666 said:


    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA

    Was this when he delivered the "oven-ready deal" he promised in the election campaign?
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,660
    Stevo_666 said:

    pangolin said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes

    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    So two if you remove the 'owned the libs' points you've been forced to add to pad it out.
    It was my view he asked for and that's what counts in answering this :smile:
    Fair enough. I can see why you were reluctant to answer.
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    - Dolan Tuono
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,459
    edited August 2020
    That Barnier convinced the UK PM to put a customs and regulatory border in the middle of his own country to protect the EU's single market and that this is trumpeted as a 'win' by the PM's party is some serious Jedi mind shit.

    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,820
    pangolin said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    pangolin said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes

    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    So two if you remove the 'owned the libs' points you've been forced to add to pad it out.
    It was my view he asked for and that's what counts in answering this :smile:
    Fair enough. I can see why you were reluctant to answer.
    No, just CBA.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,820

    Stevo_666 said:


    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA

    Was this when he delivered the "oven-ready deal" he promised in the election campaign?
    WA is in the bag. On the trade deal, I think we underestimated how dogmatic and inflexible the EU could be over things like fishing. Hey ho.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    I missed "Yebbut Rick". Sorry.

    What's up Brian, not enjoying the thought of quarantine and feel like having a go?
    Not too bothered about quarantine,especially as I'm having a fantastic time here in the French sun. But debate is tiresome when the stock response is deflection. Which you've just done again.
    Some call it debate, others might call it a half arsed attempt at interrogation. I can tell the difference and react accordingly. Maybe you should learn to tell the difference as well.
    Surely all people are trying to understand is at what point would you stop toeing the Party line and accept that the Tory Government are making mistakes? Sure, it may well be that Labour or the Lib Dems would have done worse but we'll never know. Is there genuinely nothing you feel the Government could be doing better irrespective of whether you think their version of bad is better than the other Parties would manage?

    Having voted Conservative in every election from my first in 1992 up to and including 2015 I don't think I can be classed as a leftie or liberal but there is no way I could vote for the current lot. To me their 'policies' and behaviour aren't really Conservative, they just make up whatever they think will win them favour on a particular day and the leadership are proving themselves incompetent at every opportunity.
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,869
    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:


    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA

    Was this when he delivered the "oven-ready deal" he promised in the election campaign?
    WA is in the bag. On the trade deal, I think we underestimated how dogmatic and inflexible the EU could be over things like fishing. Hey ho.
    So it's the EU's fault he lied about having a deal ready to go? That seems a bit of a stretch.
    Your absolute refusal to admit to any failings on the part of the current government doesn't give your arguments any more credibility, it actually makes you seem more of a nutter.