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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    Stevo_666 said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Not trying to have or win an argument, just wondering what you think.

    I think about lots of things. But I'm not minded to just tell people what they want to hear. Not really a debate is it.
    I can't speak for others, but I don't "want to hear" anything. Just interested in your view.

    I don't want you to say something negative about their performance on the exams, if you think they did well
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,816
    kingstongraham said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Not trying to have or win an argument, just wondering what you think.

    I think about lots of things. But I'm not minded to just tell people what they want to hear. Not really a debate is it.
    I can't speak for others, but I don't "want to hear" anything. Just interested in your view.

    I don't want you to say something negative about their performance on the exams, if you think they did well
    I mean, if you don't want to share your views on the Conservative Party, why continually post in a thread on the Conservative Party?
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,816
    There's a dark humour in this.



    "We need to bring this out of control quango (PHE) back under direct government control!"

    "Err, it already is..."
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,825
    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes
    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    This?
    Where is my statement that the WA is a success? I simply stated that he delivered it.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,825
    rjsterry said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Not trying to have or win an argument, just wondering what you think.

    I think about lots of things. But I'm not minded to just tell people what they want to hear. Not really a debate is it.
    I can't speak for others, but I don't "want to hear" anything. Just interested in your view.

    I don't want you to say something negative about their performance on the exams, if you think they did well
    I mean, if you don't want to share your views on the Conservative Party, why continually post in a thread on the Conservative Party?
    A bit of balance is needed sometimes, given all the centre leftiebollox going around on here, usual thing :smile:

    But you're right, I shouldn't encourage the whiners.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,459
    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes
    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    This?
    Where is my statement that the WA is a success? I simply stated that he delivered it.
    😂😂😂
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes
    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    This?
    Where is my statement that the WA is a success? I simply stated that he delivered it.
    Did you misunderstand the question?
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,825
    edited August 2020
    tailwindhome said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes
    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    This?
    Where is my statement that the WA is a success? I simply stated that he delivered it.
    😂😂😂
    Another one who can't read properly so imagines it instead ;) try again...

    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,825
    kingstongraham said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes
    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    This?
    Where is my statement that the WA is a success? I simply stated that he delivered it.
    Did you misunderstand the question?
    No.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,459
    Stevo_666 said:

    tailwindhome said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes
    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    This?
    Where is my statement that the WA is a success? I simply stated that he delivered it.
    😂😂😂
    Another one who can't properly so imagines it instead ;) try again...

    Can't what?
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    edited August 2020
    Stevo_666 said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes
    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    This?
    Where is my statement that the WA is a success? I simply stated that he delivered it.
    Did you misunderstand the question?
    No.
    So unless the wa is a success, how can it be a benefit to the UK?

    Or are we down to just the coronavirus furlough support (which I agree with you about).
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,825
    kingstongraham said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes
    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    This?
    Where is my statement that the WA is a success? I simply stated that he delivered it.
    Did you misunderstand the question?
    No.
    So unless the wa is a success, how can it be a benefit to the UK?

    Or are we down to just the coronavirus furlough support (which I agree with you about).
    It was a necessary step in the leaving process and had met a lot of political resistance. so delivering it in that regard was a positive for Boris. But re: the WA itself I was not commenting on how much of a success it was.

    Some people need to RTFQ :smile:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    tailwindhome said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    tailwindhome said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes
    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    This?
    Where is my statement that the WA is a success? I simply stated that he delivered it.
    😂😂😂
    Another one who can't properly so imagines it instead ;) try again...

    Can't what?
    Perhaps that's what has happened throughout, he thinks he's put in words where he hasn't and then thinks people haven't read what he wrote.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    Stevo_666 said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes
    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    This?
    Where is my statement that the WA is a success? I simply stated that he delivered it.
    Did you misunderstand the question?
    No.
    So unless the wa is a success, how can it be a benefit to the UK?

    Or are we down to just the coronavirus furlough support (which I agree with you about).
    It was a necessary step in the leaving process and had met a lot of political resistance. so delivering it in that regard was a positive for Boris. But re: the WA itself I was not commenting on how much of a success it was.

    Some people need to RTFQ :smile:
    Ok. So you think that was a benefit to the UK, but you aren't willing to say it was a success. Fair enough
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    If you thought the question was about things that were positive "for Boris", you may need to reread the question.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,825
    edited August 2020
    kingstongraham said:

    If you thought the question was about things that were positive "for Boris", you may need to reread the question.

    I explained pretty clearly above - let me know what part you still don't understand.

    And do you really think that was the argument I have been trying to make over the last couple of days? Really?
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,825
    tailwindhome said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    tailwindhome said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    orraloon said:

    orraloon said:

    Come on then Tory boy, set out precisely the plus points for the dUK having Wank4rBo as PM.

    Still waiting...
    Oh OK then.
    - Won an 80 seat majority
    - Handed Labour their worst election defeat in decades
    - Put the Lib Dems and Wee Jimmy Krankie back in their boxes
    - Took a suitably firm line with the EU and delivered the WA
    - Took sensible measure to support the economy in the pandemic e.g. the CJRS and EOTHO.
    - Pi $$ed you off no end ;)

    How's that for starters?
    This?
    Where is my statement that the WA is a success? I simply stated that he delivered it.
    😂😂😂
    Another one who can't properly so imagines it instead ;) try again...

    Can't what?
    Whoops - read properly.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,825
    Anyhow, good luck with the continuing search to find what argument I was meant to be making - in your minds anyway :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Stevo is a nice example with the problem of the Tories right now.

    Entirely ideologically and intellectually bereft. No overarching idea how how a society should be run and no blueprint of how to make that work for everyone.

    Half the party is engaged in permanent revolution over Brexit and each iteration is never extreme enough.

    What you’re left with is a mess of f@ck ups, u-turns and general incompetence.

    Even their ardent supporters, in this case Stevo, can only offer the success of “winning an election” and on a social security scheme the party itself has spent two decades eschewing and would have been done similarly by any other mainstream party.

    I guess it’s the ultimate manifestion of the post-modern world where we are all bereft of new ideas and can only recycle existing ones in ever more decrepit ways as they become increasingly irrelevant to the contemporary world.
    _
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    And to be clear, I include myself and those I support in the intellectual desert.
    _
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,816
    Stevo_666 said:

    Anyhow, good luck with the continuing search to find what argument I was meant to be making - in your minds anyway :)

    Should this not be in the irony thread?
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    Stevo_666 said:

    kingstongraham said:

    If you thought the question was about things that were positive "for Boris", you may need to reread the question.

    I explained pretty clearly above - let me know what part you still don't understand.

    And do you really think that was the argument I have been trying to make over the last couple of days? Really?
    I thought you were saying the coronavirus furlough and the WA were successes that the government had delivered for the UK.

    Now I don't know. Maybe that having a Tory government is just a good thing.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    rick_chasey said:



    I guess it’s the ultimate manifestion of the post-modern world where we are all bereft of new ideas and can only recycle existing ones in ever more decrepit ways as they become increasingly irrelevant to the contemporary world.

    I agree with this. I genuinely think that pounds and ounces are going to become a major policy decision at some point in the near future.
    Maybe having lots of stuff to react to is a good thing as it is distracting them from enacting yet more backwards claptrap ideas.
  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    kingstongraham said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    kingstongraham said:

    If you thought the question was about things that were positive "for Boris", you may need to reread the question.

    I explained pretty clearly above - let me know what part you still don't understand.

    And do you really think that was the argument I have been trying to make over the last couple of days? Really?
    I thought you were saying the coronavirus furlough and the WA were successes that the government had delivered for the UK.

    Now I don't know. Maybe that having a Tory government is just a good thing.
    Delivering the WA was a good thing for the UK as it took us out of the political paralysis that was created by politicians whose views were out of touch with the electorate.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    coopster_the_1st said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    kingstongraham said:

    If you thought the question was about things that were positive "for Boris", you may need to reread the question.

    I explained pretty clearly above - let me know what part you still don't understand.

    And do you really think that was the argument I have been trying to make over the last couple of days? Really?
    I thought you were saying the coronavirus furlough and the WA were successes that the government had delivered for the UK.

    Now I don't know. Maybe that having a Tory government is just a good thing.
    Delivering the WA was a good thing for the UK as it took us out of the political paralysis that was created by politicians whose views were out of touch with the electorate.
    Nicely put.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,459
    The WA ignores the will of the electorate as expressed in the June 2016 referendum.

    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    Assuming that Boris is ambivalent about an FTA what would have happened if he had not signed the WA? Other than immediately crashing out could he have save tens of billions on exit payments?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    So apparently, leading Tories are saying that they want to make 'returning to the office' as a high a priority as opening schools, which seems a bit odd to me.

    You would have thought the free-marketers would have embraced the impressive adaptation to the virus that so many office-based firms have done.

    But instead they are pre-occupied with propping up industries around said offices.
    _
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,272
    Maybe one for the FatBo fanbois. With the swirl of rumours of the Dear Leader playing away, again, strife with latest co-breeder, superinjunction et al, why on earth would anyone, male female or other, get into bed with that one? Unless they reckon on getting a substantial future revenue stream?
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    orraloon said:

    Maybe one for the FatBo fanbois. With the swirl of rumours of the Dear Leader playing away, again, strife with latest co-breeder, superinjunction et al, why on earth would anyone, male female or other, get into bed with that one? Unless they reckon on getting a substantial future revenue stream?

    Well he duped a whole party into believing in him.

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