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  • orraloon said:

    Maybe one for the FatBo fanbois. With the swirl of rumours of the Dear Leader playing away, again, strife with latest co-breeder, superinjunction et al, why on earth would anyone, male female or other, get into bed with that one? Unless they reckon on getting a substantial future revenue stream?

    Ketchup shortage in the Loonies lonely flat!

    There's no shortage of empty beer or wine bottles though...
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,272
    C'mon LoverBot. I know you fancy me but I've told you before that you need to up your game, a long way.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,660
    Any truth to this do we think?

    https://www.businessinsider.com/dominic-cummings-father-in-law-boris-johnson-will-resign-february-2020-8?r=US&IR=T

    The father-in-law of UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson's closest aide has reportedly said Johnson plans to stand down in six months because of lingering health problems caused by the novel coronavirus.

    It sounds stupid but they do seem to love a good leak.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    It would explain his consistent absence from most decision making - he's just in bad shape following corona, which does happen.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    edited August 2020
    Johnson was admitted to an intensive-care unit with COVID-19 in April but returned to work just weeks later.

    Wakefield is said to have compared Johnson's condition to that of an injured horse that returns to work too soon.

    "If you put a horse back to work when it's injured, it will never recover," he was quoted as saying.
    https://www.businessinsider.com/dominic-cummings-father-in-law-boris-johnson-will-resign-february-2020-8?r=US&IR=T

    Very well layout out article that. The key point listed, then the detail is there if the time is available.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,497
    Bit of a dent into the theory of just catching a bit a moving on.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    edited August 2020
    pblakeney said:

    Bit of a dent into the theory of just catching a bit a moving on.

    As per the economist article i posted above, around 60,000 people have long-term problems associated with their prior corona infection in the uk.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,497

    pblakeney said:

    Bit of a dent into the theory of just catching a bit a moving on.

    As per the economist article i posted above, around 60,000 people have long-term problems associated with their prior corona infection.
    I expect that number to grow as we move forward, especially as we learn what we are dealing with. Those pesky unknowns that some are so sure about.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    Before people are getting too concerned though. There is that shot making the rounds of Johnson out hill walking with his child strapped to his chest.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Have to say, I was not expecting the Tory party to be the party to get rid of all tanks in the UK army... :o
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154

    Have to say, I was not expecting the Tory party to be the party to get rid of all tanks in the UK army... :o

    Perhaps the future is remote armoured vehicles akin to drones where it doesn't have to be heavily protected.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    I don't think that is the plan being mooted.

    It's quite a material change in the kind of warfare the UK will be capable of getting involved in.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    edited August 2020

    I don't think that is the plan being mooted.

    It's quite a material change in the kind of warfare the UK will be capable of getting involved in.

    The move would lead to other military assets being given priority over heavy armour, The Times understands.

    The government is examining the controversial idea as the cost of upgrading Britain’s ageing fleet of 227 Challenger 2 tanks, and the 388 Warrior armoured fighting vehicles that support them on the battlefield, has soared.

    Both vehicles were branded “obsolete” last year and the argument has been made in the Ministry of Defence that the changing character of warfare demands more investment in cybercapabilities, space and other cutting-edge technologies.

    The budget for army kit is already squeezed and the ministry is preparing for its funding to be cut.
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/defence-chiefs-face-battleover-plan-to-scrap-tanks-ws87tdgbg

    I get what you're trying to get at, but I do think the future will be different.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228

    Before people are getting too concerned though. There is that shot making the rounds of Johnson out hill walking with his child strapped to his chest.

    I can walk my dog for a couple of hours, but can't ride my bike or concentrate on anything for very long. As he was in intensive care, I'd expect him to have had after effects.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154

    Before people are getting too concerned though. There is that shot making the rounds of Johnson out hill walking with his child strapped to his chest.

    I can walk my dog for a couple of hours, but can't ride my bike or concentrate on anything for very long. As he was in intensive care, I'd expect him to have had after effects.
    Yep, that's a fair point well made.
  • It would explain his consistent absence from most decision making - he's just in bad shape following corona, which does happen.

    That theory relies on him having got it in December and then a second time.
  • I don't think that is the plan being mooted.

    It's quite a material change in the kind of warfare the UK will be capable of getting involved in.

    The move would lead to other military assets being given priority over heavy armour, The Times understands.

    The government is examining the controversial idea as the cost of upgrading Britain’s ageing fleet of 227 Challenger 2 tanks, and the 388 Warrior armoured fighting vehicles that support them on the battlefield, has soared.

    Both vehicles were branded “obsolete” last year and the argument has been made in the Ministry of Defence that the changing character of warfare demands more investment in cybercapabilities, space and other cutting-edge technologies.

    The budget for army kit is already squeezed and the ministry is preparing for its funding to be cut.
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/defence-chiefs-face-battleover-plan-to-scrap-tanks-ws87tdgbg

    I get what you're trying to get at, but I do think the future will be different.
    Defence chiefs fighting cuts, by making emotional suggestions, no different to leftie councils proposing closing libraries because of nasty Tory cuts.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190

    I don't think that is the plan being mooted.

    It's quite a material change in the kind of warfare the UK will be capable of getting involved in.

    The move would lead to other military assets being given priority over heavy armour, The Times understands.

    The government is examining the controversial idea as the cost of upgrading Britain’s ageing fleet of 227 Challenger 2 tanks, and the 388 Warrior armoured fighting vehicles that support them on the battlefield, has soared.

    Both vehicles were branded “obsolete” last year and the argument has been made in the Ministry of Defence that the changing character of warfare demands more investment in cybercapabilities, space and other cutting-edge technologies.

    The budget for army kit is already squeezed and the ministry is preparing for its funding to be cut.
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/defence-chiefs-face-battleover-plan-to-scrap-tanks-ws87tdgbg

    I get what you're trying to get at, but I do think the future will be different.
    My son is in Royal Tank Regiment. His squadron no longer has any tanks.
    They were consolidated into the other squadron to provide spares and working tanks. Definitely an exit policy underway.
    The regiment may need renaming.

  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    pblakeney said:

    Bit of a dent into the theory of just catching a bit a moving on.

    I seem to recall reading an article that claimed those with tangible but more mild symptoms were having more lasting effects than those with a more severe illness.
    Obviously won’t apply to all but there do some to be many unusual patterns.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    I see he’s been absent for the whole A level f@ck up but had made a rousing return for an intervention saving the last night of the proms.

    Culture wars I guess is more comfortable ground for him than governance.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    If he resigns it's would most likely be because all he was ever interested in was being PM rather than what it involved. Just the ultimate high power position to add to his CV. He can resign, blame it on Covid, spend the rest of his life going on about how he 'got Brexit done' (which is the sole reason he got elected) and not have lost an election as PM.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,272
    While enjoying his six figure tax free ex-PM stipend.
  • Pross said:

    If he resigns it's would most likely be because all he was ever interested in was being PM rather than what it involved. Just the ultimate high power position to add to his CV. He can resign, blame it on Covid, spend the rest of his life going on about how he 'got Brexit done' (which is the sole reason he got elected) and not have lost an election as PM.

    And washing his hands of any blame for any and all Brexit downside
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,756

    Pross said:

    If he resigns it's would most likely be because all he was ever interested in was being PM rather than what it involved. Just the ultimate high power position to add to his CV. He can resign, blame it on Covid, spend the rest of his life going on about how he 'got Brexit done' (which is the sole reason he got elected) and not have lost an election as PM.

    And washing his hands of any blame for any and all Brexit downside

    I'm liking this plan.

    He's lazy, dishonest, only interested in himself, not as clever as he thinks he is, and has no real principles - the absolute opposite of Margaret Thatcher.

    Now, all the Tories need is someone honest, hard working, principled and deeply intelligent, who is in politics for the good of the country...

    Step forward... erm... ah... hmm...
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660

    Pross said:

    If he resigns it's would most likely be because all he was ever interested in was being PM rather than what it involved. Just the ultimate high power position to add to his CV. He can resign, blame it on Covid, spend the rest of his life going on about how he 'got Brexit done' (which is the sole reason he got elected) and not have lost an election as PM.

    And washing his hands of any blame for any and all Brexit downside

    I'm liking this plan.

    He's lazy, dishonest, only interested in himself, not as clever as he thinks he is, and has no real principles - the absolute opposite of Margaret Thatcher.

    Now, all the Tories need is someone honest, hard working, principled and deeply intelligent, who is in politics for the good of the country...

    Step forward... erm... ah... hmm...
    aaaaaaaaaaaaaagh
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597

    Pross said:

    If he resigns it's would most likely be because all he was ever interested in was being PM rather than what it involved. Just the ultimate high power position to add to his CV. He can resign, blame it on Covid, spend the rest of his life going on about how he 'got Brexit done' (which is the sole reason he got elected) and not have lost an election as PM.

    And washing his hands of any blame for any and all Brexit downside
    To be fair he's been advocating hand washing for months.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,816
    Sounds like that 80 seat majority are getting fed up with the boss's preference for centralised autocratic decision making. Listening to the interview this morning I had to remind myself that he was talking about his own party leader.
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,459
    Is everything OK over there?
    Do you need to talk to someone?


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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,756
    rjsterry said:

    Sounds like that 80 seat majority are getting fed up with the boss's preference for centralised autocratic decision making. Listening to the interview this morning I had to remind myself that he was talking about his own party leader.

    Telegraph carrying on with criticism, mostly on this point, and the fact that the Govt seem to be following Sturgeon's decisions three days later. I must quiz my civil service mole, but it appears to be a true omnishambles with Johnson 'leading' the party.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660

    Is everything OK over there?
    Do you need to talk to someone?


    Remarkable. The UK is so much more like the US that the UK thinks it is.