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Yes, that was rather pleasing.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Since this is the default election thread, can anyone explain how these results do not add up to a fix? Asking for a friend. Yes, genuinely.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
It explains it below - the SNP took 8 of the 9 constituency seats. There was mention if it this morning, the Scottish and Welsh systems were set up to try to avoid any single party getting an outright majority.pblakeney said:Since this is the default election thread, can anyone explain how these results do not add up to a fix? Asking for a friend. Yes, genuinely.
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That was my interpretation, it is fixed.Pross said:
It explains it below - the SNP took 8 of the 9 constituency seats. There was mention if it this morning, the Scottish and Welsh systems were set up to try to avoid any single party getting an outright majority.pblakeney said:Since this is the default election thread, can anyone explain how these results do not add up to a fix? Asking for a friend. Yes, genuinely.
Worth a laugh at Salmond though.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
In the local mayoral election, bit of a surprise, labour smacked the Tories.
52-48 (!!!!) on the first vote to labour, got smacked hard on the second vote, ended up 72-28.
No surprise Tories are binning second transferable vote.
Big swing in the fens away from Tories (who is their natural party). Apparently lots of flooding and Brexit affected farmers.0 -
West of England metro mayor swung from conservative to labour here. I do find that odd... Bristol is quite non conservative but the surrounding areas are usually not.rick_chasey said:In the local mayoral election, bit of a surprise, labour smacked the Tories.
52-48 (!!!!) on the first vote to labour, got smacked hard on the second vote, ended up 72-28.
No surprise Tories are binning second transferable vote.
Big swing in the fens away from Tories (who is their natural party). Apparently lots of flooding and Brexit affected farmers.- Genesis Croix de Fer
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But under a pure FPTP system, the party with just under 40% of the vote would have every seat. The other 60% would have no representation. That sounds more like a fix.pblakeney said:
That was my interpretation, it is fixed.Pross said:
It explains it below - the SNP took 8 of the 9 constituency seats. There was mention if it this morning, the Scottish and Welsh systems were set up to try to avoid any single party getting an outright majority.pblakeney said:Since this is the default election thread, can anyone explain how these results do not add up to a fix? Asking for a friend. Yes, genuinely.
Worth a laugh at Salmond though.
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Yeah, I'm all for proportional representation. We simply couldn't believe that the system being deliberately rigged was both the simple conclusion, and the correct one.elbowloh said:
But under a pure FPTP system, the party with just under 40% of the vote would have every seat. The other 60% would have no representation. That sounds more like a fix.pblakeney said:
That was my interpretation, it is fixed.Pross said:
It explains it below - the SNP took 8 of the 9 constituency seats. There was mention if it this morning, the Scottish and Welsh systems were set up to try to avoid any single party getting an outright majority.pblakeney said:Since this is the default election thread, can anyone explain how these results do not add up to a fix? Asking for a friend. Yes, genuinely.
Worth a laugh at Salmond though.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Labour have recruited polling expert Deborah Mattinson as a strategy director
Which is interesting as she literally wrote the book on how Labour lost the 'red wall'
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
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Paris is a city in Francerick_chasey said:It is a strange world when I am agreeing with Paris more often than not
Parris is a well informed political columnist.
I am intrigued that you find it strange that you agree with him.
Try Max Hastings, you might surprise yourself0 -
Well it seems my lonely opinion has just gone mainstream
ST headlining that in the Queens Speech the Tories are going to reject traditional free market economics.
Jobs are going to get on their bikes and go and find the people.0 -
Current thesis of party politics.
Labour's policy is wooly and unclear. Conservative policy is socialist. Confusing times.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
Thanks for the typo correction.surrey_commuter said:
Paris is a city in Francerick_chasey said:It is a strange world when I am agreeing with Paris more often than not
Parris is a well informed political columnist.
I am intrigued that you find it strange that you agree with him.
Try Max Hastings, you might surprise yourself
I used to find him supremely irritating. On lesser issues like private education etc0 -
I do like the idea labour are so out of touch from the working person unlike......this cabinet?
Is it that the Tories don’t make you feel bad for being against things like immigrants?
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I still remember his ‘what’s smug and needs to be decapitated’ article, blaming cyclists for all the rubbish thrown into hedgerows. Literally writing to cause the ill-informed to froth up.rick_chasey said:
Thanks for the typo correction.surrey_commuter said:
Paris is a city in Francerick_chasey said:It is a strange world when I am agreeing with Paris more often than not
Parris is a well informed political columnist.
I am intrigued that you find it strange that you agree with him.
Try Max Hastings, you might surprise yourself
I used to find him supremely irritating. On lesser issues like private education etc0 -
Ah yes I remember his hatred of cyclists.
Ah, glory days when you could write articles casually hating a minority who represent the future of short-medium distance travel, rather than having to despair at the degradation of the entire political system.0 -
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rick_chasey said:
Ah yes I remember his hatred of cyclists.
Ah, glory days when you could write articles casually hating a minority who represent the future of short-medium distance travel, rather than having to despair at the degradation of the entire political system.
I'd hope that he'd put his hand up and say he seriously misjudged that one. It's easy to dismiss someone's POV in its entirety after such a misjudgement (and other political leanings), but he's nearly always a thoughtful writer, even if you disagree with parts of his world view.
https://bikebiz.com/parris-apologises-for-death-to-cyclists-comment/0 -
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No vote for me.rick_chasey said:Who did you vote for in the end, @surrey_commuter
People can criticise me all they like but until an election is decided on the toss of the coin because I did not vote then I still see not voting as the least worse way to influence the chance of electoral reform0 -
Yet people laugh at the idea that Corbyn won the argument!surrey_commuter said:Well it seems my lonely opinion has just gone mainstream
ST headlining that in the Queens Speech the Tories are going to reject traditional free market economics.
Jobs are going to get on their bikes and go and find the people.
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Don’t know why the Tories are upset by this.
Piling up labour voters in London by stripping them out of the rest of England is an excellent election strategy0 -
Anyway, gritty places still vote labour generally.0 -
Took the same approach myself this time which I think is a first in a GE or Welsh Assembly election. Labour has done an OK job in the assembly but have made some poor decisions and I just can't bring myself to vote for them. Definitely not voting Tory again until they change significantly (and find someone less of an idiot as their Senedd leader) and anyone else would have been the same impact as not turning up).surrey_commuter said:
No vote for me.rick_chasey said:Who did you vote for in the end, @surrey_commuter
People can criticise me all they like but until an election is decided on the toss of the coin because I did not vote then I still see not voting as the least worse way to influence the chance of electoral reform0 -
Never realised the metropolitan elite lived in deprived areas. I guess Wokeness is a big deal in that constituency in the top left?rick_chasey said:
Anyway, gritty places still vote labour generally.0 -
By age
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0