Frame bag rubbing legs?

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  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    and no one is the slightest bit interested in respecting my decisions.

    Honestly, I don't think anyone gives a sh1t what you do. Your embarrassing meltdowns are what is keeping this thread going.
  • Chimera2018
    Chimera2018 Posts: 106
    no one is the slightest bit interested in respecting my decisions.

    That's because they are really bad decisions.

    No they're not.............
  • haydenm
    haydenm Posts: 2,997
    HaydenM wrote:
    [url][/url]
    Brakeless wrote:
    People who use frame bags for water are normally bike packing or doing events such as the transcontinental and are carrying luggage that makes normal bottle cages unusable. The frame bags have normally got other stuff in as well as water. The OP has totally misunderstood why people use framebags for water. There is a reason 99.99999999% of UK cyclists use 2 bottles in conventional bottle cages.

    Are you thick? Two bottles IS NOT ENOUGH!!!!!!!

    And people use frame bags to carry water because it is a good place to carry it. Why the fark would I care about why other people might be doing it??? All that matters is what is going work for me.

    The thing I have "misunderstood" is that this was a place to come for advice. It seems to be place where people come to be told what to do and be told they are "wrong" by a bunch of cretins.

    You've been told time and time again what the solution everyone else uses is, what more do you want? I and others suggested some other solutions but the simplest would just be to refill bottles like everyone else who rides a bike in the UK.

    People gave you advice from their own experience and you don't want to do it, the only reason the ribbing escalated was because you started shouting and swearing when people poked a bit of fun. Surely a person of your experience should know when to respond and when to let it go...?

    No they didn't, they come on to tell me what to do and to castigate for not doing what they want me to do. I've said multiple times why I want to do it the way I want to do it, and no one is the slightest bit interested in respecting my decisions.

    You asked for a solution, they gave you one, you said you didn't want to do it then got angry when people asked why. If you want a solution you can't start swearing when people give you the solution which works best for everyone else but doesn't fit with you. There are a few other options as highlighted in the thread but they are all not as good as just filling up your bottles like everyone else. It is frankly farcical that anyone will steal them off your bike and the lack of available water, hence the mickey taking
  • Chimera2018
    Chimera2018 Posts: 106
    Imposter wrote:
    and no one is the slightest bit interested in respecting my decisions.

    Honestly, I don't think anyone gives a sh1t what you do. Your embarrassing meltdowns are what is keeping this thread going.

    No what is "embarrassing" is a bunch of so-called adults (assuming that is what you are, because at this point I am not entirely sure), acting like a bunch of bullies in the school playground.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    Anyway:

    https://www.bikeforums.net/long-distanc ... adder.html

    From people who actually need lots of water. Mixed opinions.
  • timothyw
    timothyw Posts: 2,482
    Classic thread. Definitely passing the time before the tour starts.

    I'd say a few additional straps to stop the frame bag wobbling or to pinch the sides in where it is next to the legs will stop it rubbing and wobbling.

    Failing that, do what everyone else does and bring a couple of bidons, buy a big bottle of water at a petrol station/shop for less than a quid and refill from that (or find a tap somewhere/ask nicely).

    I rode London to Edinburgh during the roasting hot mayday weekend with 2x500ml bottles, which I then supplemented with a small bottle in my jersey pocket. It was fine. I'd have liked to have had more, but my frame bags were already full of clothing and other essentials for the trip.

    I don't think I had to pay for water once, stopped at plenty of public toilets to refill though - haven't died yet.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Imposter wrote:
    and no one is the slightest bit interested in respecting my decisions.

    Honestly, I don't think anyone gives a sh1t what you do. Your embarrassing meltdowns are what is keeping this thread going.

    No what is "embarrassing" is a bunch of so-called adults (assuming that is what you are, because at this point I am not entirely sure), acting like a bunch of bullies in the school playground.

    Thanks for making my point...
  • Chimera2018
    Chimera2018 Posts: 106
    HaydenM wrote:
    HaydenM wrote:
    [url][/url]
    Brakeless wrote:
    People who use frame bags for water are normally bike packing or doing events such as the transcontinental and are carrying luggage that makes normal bottle cages unusable. The frame bags have normally got other stuff in as well as water. The OP has totally misunderstood why people use framebags for water. There is a reason 99.99999999% of UK cyclists use 2 bottles in conventional bottle cages.

    Are you thick? Two bottles IS NOT ENOUGH!!!!!!!

    And people use frame bags to carry water because it is a good place to carry it. Why the fark would I care about why other people might be doing it??? All that matters is what is going work for me.

    The thing I have "misunderstood" is that this was a place to come for advice. It seems to be place where people come to be told what to do and be told they are "wrong" by a bunch of cretins.

    You've been told time and time again what the solution everyone else uses is, what more do you want? I and others suggested some other solutions but the simplest would just be to refill bottles like everyone else who rides a bike in the UK.

    People gave you advice from their own experience and you don't want to do it, the only reason the ribbing escalated was because you started shouting and swearing when people poked a bit of fun. Surely a person of your experience should know when to respond and when to let it go...?

    No they didn't, they come on to tell me what to do and to castigate for not doing what they want me to do. I've said multiple times why I want to do it the way I want to do it, and no one is the slightest bit interested in respecting my decisions.

    You asked for a solution, they gave you one, you said you didn't want to do it then got angry when people asked why. If you want a solution you can't start swearing when people give you the solution which works best for everyone else but doesn't fit with you. There are a few other options as highlighted in the thread but they are all not as good as just filling up your bottles like everyone else. It is frankly farcical that anyone will steal them off your bike and the lack of available water, hence the mickey taking

    Nice twisting of the facts there.

    And the whole idea that anyone can leave easily removable items just laying about in the street and they won't get touched is absurd. You're either naive or stupid. Which is it?
  • Chimera2018
    Chimera2018 Posts: 106
    Anyway:

    https://www.bikeforums.net/long-distanc ... adder.html

    From people who actually need lots of water. Mixed opinions.

    I think I might have already seen that thread when I was first came across the idea.
  • capt_slog
    capt_slog Posts: 3,974
    People have cited Bungle as an alter-ego here.

    Manc33 is closer I think.


    The older I get, the better I was.

  • capt_slog
    capt_slog Posts: 3,974
    borrowed from the caption competition...
    h88F4DE9D

    Borrowed my @rse, where do you think I was coming from? :lol:


    The older I get, the better I was.

  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,269
    At this point I would like to draw notice to the time stamp of my entry in Caption Comp. Got there first suckers...
  • haydenm
    haydenm Posts: 2,997
    HaydenM wrote:
    HaydenM wrote:
    [url][/url]
    Brakeless wrote:
    People who use frame bags for water are normally bike packing or doing events such as the transcontinental and are carrying luggage that makes normal bottle cages unusable. The frame bags have normally got other stuff in as well as water. The OP has totally misunderstood why people use framebags for water. There is a reason 99.99999999% of UK cyclists use 2 bottles in conventional bottle cages.

    Are you thick? Two bottles IS NOT ENOUGH!!!!!!!

    And people use frame bags to carry water because it is a good place to carry it. Why the fark would I care about why other people might be doing it??? All that matters is what is going work for me.

    The thing I have "misunderstood" is that this was a place to come for advice. It seems to be place where people come to be told what to do and be told they are "wrong" by a bunch of cretins.

    You've been told time and time again what the solution everyone else uses is, what more do you want? I and others suggested some other solutions but the simplest would just be to refill bottles like everyone else who rides a bike in the UK.

    People gave you advice from their own experience and you don't want to do it, the only reason the ribbing escalated was because you started shouting and swearing when people poked a bit of fun. Surely a person of your experience should know when to respond and when to let it go...?

    No they didn't, they come on to tell me what to do and to castigate for not doing what they want me to do. I've said multiple times why I want to do it the way I want to do it, and no one is the slightest bit interested in respecting my decisions.

    You asked for a solution, they gave you one, you said you didn't want to do it then got angry when people asked why. If you want a solution you can't start swearing when people give you the solution which works best for everyone else but doesn't fit with you. There are a few other options as highlighted in the thread but they are all not as good as just filling up your bottles like everyone else. It is frankly farcical that anyone will steal them off your bike and the lack of available water, hence the mickey taking

    Nice twisting of the facts there.

    And the whole idea that anyone can leave easily removable items just laying about in the street and they won't get touched is absurd. You're either naive or stupid. Which is it?

    Well clearly we differ on what the facts are or you wouldn't have spent a million pages swearing at everyone.

    How many times have yours or anyone else's bottles ever been stolen? It's completely ridiculous! I am neither stupid nor niaive, I have experience with using bottles which you don't. They have never been stolen, and that is the experience of everyone else who has ever ridden a bike. I can't really spell it out any more clearly.

    If you want sensible answers don't call people stupid or naive, that's usually a good start.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Time for a quick review of this guy's choice of insults...
    Maybe it's better if you do leave, because you've given me nothing but a load of useless bollox.
    Don't talk rubbish. Are you really that naive??
    Oh stop ******* lying. You're the bloody childish one here.
    If you can't answer the question just fark off. I'm tired of your bullshit.
    You people need to take a long hard look at yourselves.
    Jesus Christ what the ******* hell is wrong with you ******* people? I came here for advice, not to have my every move picked apart by a bunch of shitheads who obviously have nothing better to do.

    Maybe if you actually got out of your mother's basement and went to a bookshop....you know, those places that sell BOOKS....you would see that there are dozens of books offering such tours for people to follow.

    If anyone is being trolled here IT'S ME!! Get a life ffs.
    Jesus Christ are you ******* thick??? I need it to LAST ALL DAY!!! Why the ******* hell are you not understanding this??? And I have run out in the middle of the country where THERE ARENO ******* SHOPS and also once WHEN THE SHOPS ID DID COME ACROSS ARE ALL CLOSED.

    And how do you not ******* understand that I want to be SELF RELIANT? Why are you too ******* stupid to understand this??? It seems to me that you're the sort of people who always expect to be bailed out by someone else. You probably have someone wipe your backside for you too.

    And for the record what ******* business is it of anyone here how water I chose to carry on a ride, of it I want to faff about finding shops or not? It's not. So I don't know who the fark you are lecturing me. fark off

    That's all I have to say.
    Quite obviously this is a place where one cannot come for any help without the local cretins wanting to pick apart every aspect of how one does things, and finding some way to criticise. What a complete waste of time
    Who the fark do you think you are? Your arrogance is ******* astounding.
    This has to be some kind of wind up, no one can be this dense.

    Oh, and what an utterly selfish and self-centre person you are.

    Are you thick? Two bottles IS NOT ENOUGH!!!!!!!

    It seems to be place where people come to be told what to do and be told they are "wrong" by a bunch of cretins.
    You're either naive or stupid. Which is it?
  • haydenm
    haydenm Posts: 2,997
    Camelbak rucksacks also have their problems, these have been pointed out to you.

    I've used a bladder in rucksack enough times to know what they are like. People said they heat up, and I know for a fact tat they do not, and as far as I'm concerned that that is one of their main huge advanatages.

    This is another 'fact' we disagree on. I race national level enduro mountain bike races with bladders in rucksacks and the do warm up. If these are both facts then something is going on here...
  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    orraloon wrote:
    At this point I would like to draw notice to the time stamp of my entry in Caption Comp. Got there first suckers...
    there but not here, suckers!
    Cross posting to drive trade on the other thread which is here: https://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=30005&t=12946544&start=9220
  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    HaydenM wrote:
    Camelbak rucksacks also have their problems, these have been pointed out to you.

    I've used a bladder in rucksack enough times to know what they are like. People said they heat up, and I know for a fact tat they do not, and as far as I'm concerned that that is one of their main huge advanatages.

    This is another 'fact' we disagree on. I race national level enduro mountain bike races with bladders in rucksacks and the do warm up. If these are both facts then something is going on here...
    Clearly one of you is talking cr@p, I know which one my money is on!
  • Chimera2018
    Chimera2018 Posts: 106
    HaydenM wrote:
    HaydenM wrote:
    HaydenM wrote:
    [url][/url]
    Brakeless wrote:
    People who use frame bags for water are normally bike packing or doing events such as the transcontinental and are carrying luggage that makes normal bottle cages unusable. The frame bags have normally got other stuff in as well as water. The OP has totally misunderstood why people use framebags for water. There is a reason 99.99999999% of UK cyclists use 2 bottles in conventional bottle cages.

    Are you thick? Two bottles IS NOT ENOUGH!!!!!!!

    And people use frame bags to carry water because it is a good place to carry it. Why the fark would I care about why other people might be doing it??? All that matters is what is going work for me.

    The thing I have "misunderstood" is that this was a place to come for advice. It seems to be place where people come to be told what to do and be told they are "wrong" by a bunch of cretins.

    You've been told time and time again what the solution everyone else uses is, what more do you want? I and others suggested some other solutions but the simplest would just be to refill bottles like everyone else who rides a bike in the UK.

    People gave you advice from their own experience and you don't want to do it, the only reason the ribbing escalated was because you started shouting and swearing when people poked a bit of fun. Surely a person of your experience should know when to respond and when to let it go...?

    No they didn't, they come on to tell me what to do and to castigate for not doing what they want me to do. I've said multiple times why I want to do it the way I want to do it, and no one is the slightest bit interested in respecting my decisions.

    You asked for a solution, they gave you one, you said you didn't want to do it then got angry when people asked why. If you want a solution you can't start swearing when people give you the solution which works best for everyone else but doesn't fit with you. There are a few other options as highlighted in the thread but they are all not as good as just filling up your bottles like everyone else. It is frankly farcical that anyone will steal them off your bike and the lack of available water, hence the mickey taking

    Nice twisting of the facts there.

    And the whole idea that anyone can leave easily removable items just laying about in the street and they won't get touched is absurd. You're either naive or stupid. Which is it?

    Well clearly we differ on what the facts are or you wouldn't have spent a million pages swearing at everyone.

    How many times have yours or anyone else's bottles ever been stolen? It's completely ridiculous! I am neither stupid nor niaive, I have experience with using bottles which you don't. They have never been stolen, and that is the experience of everyone else who has ever ridden a bike. I can't really spell it out any more clearly.

    If you want sensible answers don't call people stupid or naive, that's usually a good start.

    Then this is a troll then? Everyone knows that anything not tied down is likely to be nicked. I have experience of LIFE.
  • Chimera2018
    Chimera2018 Posts: 106
    HaydenM wrote:
    Camelbak rucksacks also have their problems, these have been pointed out to you.

    I've used a bladder in rucksack enough times to know what they are like. People said they heat up, and I know for a fact tat they do not, and as far as I'm concerned that that is one of their main huge advanatages.

    This is another 'fact' we disagree on. I race national level enduro mountain bike races with bladders in rucksacks and the do warm up. If these are both facts then something is going on here...

    I used bladders for entire day trips on hot sunny days and they DO NOT warm up.........
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    I have experience of LIFE.

    I think we all do. Some seem to have adapted to it better than others though...
  • Chimera2018
    Chimera2018 Posts: 106
    Imposter wrote:
    Time for a quick review of this guy's choice of insults...
    Maybe it's better if you do leave, because you've given me nothing but a load of useless bollox.
    Don't talk rubbish. Are you really that naive??
    Oh stop ******* lying. You're the bloody childish one here.
    If you can't answer the question just fark off. I'm tired of your bullshit.
    You people need to take a long hard look at yourselves.
    Jesus Christ what the ******* hell is wrong with you ******* people? I came here for advice, not to have my every move picked apart by a bunch of shitheads who obviously have nothing better to do.

    Maybe if you actually got out of your mother's basement and went to a bookshop....you know, those places that sell BOOKS....you would see that there are dozens of books offering such tours for people to follow.

    If anyone is being trolled here IT'S ME!! Get a life ffs.
    Jesus Christ are you ******* thick??? I need it to LAST ALL DAY!!! Why the ******* hell are you not understanding this??? And I have run out in the middle of the country where THERE ARENO ******* SHOPS and also once WHEN THE SHOPS ID DID COME ACROSS ARE ALL CLOSED.

    And how do you not ******* understand that I want to be SELF RELIANT? Why are you too ******* stupid to understand this??? It seems to me that you're the sort of people who always expect to be bailed out by someone else. You probably have someone wipe your backside for you too.

    And for the record what ******* business is it of anyone here how water I chose to carry on a ride, of it I want to faff about finding shops or not? It's not. So I don't know who the fark you are lecturing me. fark off

    That's all I have to say.
    Quite obviously this is a place where one cannot come for any help without the local cretins wanting to pick apart every aspect of how one does things, and finding some way to criticise. What a complete waste of time
    Who the fark do you think you are? Your arrogance is ******* astounding.
    This has to be some kind of wind up, no one can be this dense.

    Oh, and what an utterly selfish and self-centre person you are.

    Are you thick? Two bottles IS NOT ENOUGH!!!!!!!

    It seems to be place where people come to be told what to do and be told they are "wrong" by a bunch of cretins.
    You're either naive or stupid. Which is it?

    Ah, I see now we've got to the old selective quoting to make someone look bad.......
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Ah, I see now we've got to the old selective quoting to make someone look bad.......

    Of course they are 'selective' - I've only quoted the parts containing the insults. If you feel any of those quotes are inaccurate, or somehow misrepresent you, just let me know.
  • capt_slog
    capt_slog Posts: 3,974
    My bladder warms up.

    but I've had these bottles nicked off my bike...

    s-l225.webp


    The older I get, the better I was.

  • natrix
    natrix Posts: 1,111
    HaydenM wrote:

    How many times have yours or anyone else's bottles ever been stolen?

    To be fair, if you leave your bike on the train they can get stolen, I've had this happen to me (on the way to the start of an 8 day tour :( ) but you can take the bottles out of their cage and carry them with you.
    ~~~~~~Sustrans - Join the Movement~~~~~~
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,833
    HaydenM wrote:
    Camelbak rucksacks also have their problems, these have been pointed out to you.

    I've used a bladder in rucksack enough times to know what they are like. People said they heat up, and I know for a fact tat they do not, and as far as I'm concerned that that is one of their main huge advanatages.

    This is another 'fact' we disagree on. I race national level enduro mountain bike races with bladders in rucksacks and the do warm up. If these are both facts then something is going on here...

    I used bladders for entire day trips on hot sunny days and they DO NOT warm up.........

    Clearly the Chimera is a cold blooded creature then.
  • haydenm
    haydenm Posts: 2,997
    HaydenM wrote:
    Camelbak rucksacks also have their problems, these have been pointed out to you.

    I've used a bladder in rucksack enough times to know what they are like. People said they heat up, and I know for a fact tat they do not, and as far as I'm concerned that that is one of their main huge advanatages.

    This is another 'fact' we disagree on. I race national level enduro mountain bike races with bladders in rucksacks and the do warm up. If these are both facts then something is going on here...

    I used bladders for entire day trips on hot sunny days and they DO NOT warm up.........

    There is likely a difference in our physical exertion then. Why did you ask if you already know all the answers?
  • Chimera2018
    Chimera2018 Posts: 106
    HaydenM wrote:
    HaydenM wrote:
    Camelbak rucksacks also have their problems, these have been pointed out to you.

    I've used a bladder in rucksack enough times to know what they are like. People said they heat up, and I know for a fact tat they do not, and as far as I'm concerned that that is one of their main huge advanatages.

    This is another 'fact' we disagree on. I race national level enduro mountain bike races with bladders in rucksacks and the do warm up. If these are both facts then something is going on here...

    I used bladders for entire day trips on hot sunny days and they DO NOT warm up.........

    There is likely a difference in our physical exertion then. Why did you ask if you already know all the answers?

    If you say so. I did an MTB ride a few weeks ago, that consisted of several steep ascents of the North Downs, and still the same result.

    And I didn't ask anything about Camalbaks..................
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,485
    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    HaydenM wrote:
    Camelbak rucksacks also have their problems, these have been pointed out to you.

    I've used a bladder in rucksack enough times to know what they are like. People said they heat up, and I know for a fact tat they do not, and as far as I'm concerned that that is one of their main huge advanatages.

    This is another 'fact' we disagree on. I race national level enduro mountain bike races with bladders in rucksacks and the do warm up. If these are both facts then something is going on here...

    I used bladders for entire day trips on hot sunny days and they DO NOT warm up.........

    So use a bladder then! Pop it in a carradice bar bag. If you stopped and listened to what anyone said you could be exploring the barren wilderness of deepest Kent already.
  • haydenm
    haydenm Posts: 2,997
    HaydenM wrote:
    HaydenM wrote:
    Camelbak rucksacks also have their problems, these have been pointed out to you.

    I've used a bladder in rucksack enough times to know what they are like. People said they heat up, and I know for a fact tat they do not, and as far as I'm concerned that that is one of their main huge advanatages.

    This is another 'fact' we disagree on. I race national level enduro mountain bike races with bladders in rucksacks and the do warm up. If these are both facts then something is going on here...

    I used bladders for entire day trips on hot sunny days and they DO NOT warm up.........

    There is likely a difference in our physical exertion then. Why did you ask if you already know all the answers?

    If you say so. I did an MTB ride a few weeks ago, that consisted of several steep ascents of the North Downs, and still the same result.

    And I didn't ask anything about Camalbaks..................

    This is why we aren't getting anywhere...