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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,490
    morstar said:

    morstar said:

    Watching The dropout on Disney.

    Based on the story of Elizabeth Holmes who had an idea for a blood analysis device that ended up in a multi million dollar fraud.

    Quite good. Eccentric character seemingly sometimes on the verge of losing the plot before becoming an almost cult like leader devoid of principle.

    Makes me think of Lance Armstrong. Much as these people don’t deserve sympathy, it does cause you to think how difficult it must be living an enormous lie that some people are desperate to uncover.

    Bizarre coincidence.
    Literally only 30 mins or so after posting this, I have just seen an advert for a Numan service that is effectively the service they were aiming to provide in this drama. There was nothing wrong with the idea, they just weren’t able to deliver it. I assume Numan aren’t repeating the same mistake.
    The blood test? I assume that they are. "Free if we don't find anything."
    That service will cost a fortune in the States to be done properly.
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  • seanoconn
    seanoconn Posts: 11,739
    daniel_b said:

    I'm already 6 episodes (3 stories) though series 1 of Crimson Rivers - it's awesome, not AS good as Spiral and quite different in concept and execution, but it is better than The Promise, which was let down by the ending I thought, and perhaps lack of episodes.

    Erika Sainte is a superb actor.


    Tried multiple times with this but can’t get into it. Plot lines and situations a little too silly and unrealistic.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    edited April 2022
    seanoconn said:

    daniel_b said:

    I'm already 6 episodes (3 stories) though series 1 of Crimson Rivers - it's awesome, not AS good as Spiral and quite different in concept and execution, but it is better than The Promise, which was let down by the ending I thought, and perhaps lack of episodes.

    Erika Sainte is a superb actor.


    Tried multiple times with this but can’t get into it. Plot lines and situations a little too silly and unrealistic.
    The plot of the book, upon which the original film was based, stretched credibility too.
    I still found it enjoyable, if far fetched.
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  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    pblakeney said:

    morstar said:

    morstar said:

    Watching The dropout on Disney.

    Based on the story of Elizabeth Holmes who had an idea for a blood analysis device that ended up in a multi million dollar fraud.

    Quite good. Eccentric character seemingly sometimes on the verge of losing the plot before becoming an almost cult like leader devoid of principle.

    Makes me think of Lance Armstrong. Much as these people don’t deserve sympathy, it does cause you to think how difficult it must be living an enormous lie that some people are desperate to uncover.

    Bizarre coincidence.
    Literally only 30 mins or so after posting this, I have just seen an advert for a Numan service that is effectively the service they were aiming to provide in this drama. There was nothing wrong with the idea, they just weren’t able to deliver it. I assume Numan aren’t repeating the same mistake.
    The blood test? I assume that they are. "Free if we don't find anything."
    That service will cost a fortune in the States to be done properly.
    Yes, the blood test.
    You’d hope they’re not just repeating the Theranos approach but it does seem a strange coincidence so hot on the heels of that scandal.
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 12,040
    edited April 2022
    Agreed on Crimson rivers (Not read the book or watched the film) that the plot lines are somewhat unusual shall we say.

    I find them very atmospheric though, both the way it is shot and the dialogue etc, seems to build suspense, although I can see how they can equally be seen as unrealistic - I guess for me the rest of it is enough to offset that me :)

    When I watched the first couple, I thought perhaps that was an outlier, but all 4 pairs of episodes in the first series are along similar lines I agree.
    I'm assuming this continues into the further series, and presumably they are being, or needing to be, faithful to some degree to the structure of the book, or books.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    morstar said:

    pblakeney said:

    morstar said:

    morstar said:

    Watching The dropout on Disney.

    Based on the story of Elizabeth Holmes who had an idea for a blood analysis device that ended up in a multi million dollar fraud.

    Quite good. Eccentric character seemingly sometimes on the verge of losing the plot before becoming an almost cult like leader devoid of principle.

    Makes me think of Lance Armstrong. Much as these people don’t deserve sympathy, it does cause you to think how difficult it must be living an enormous lie that some people are desperate to uncover.

    Bizarre coincidence.
    Literally only 30 mins or so after posting this, I have just seen an advert for a Numan service that is effectively the service they were aiming to provide in this drama. There was nothing wrong with the idea, they just weren’t able to deliver it. I assume Numan aren’t repeating the same mistake.
    The blood test? I assume that they are. "Free if we don't find anything."
    That service will cost a fortune in the States to be done properly.
    Yes, the blood test.
    You’d hope they’re not just repeating the Theranos approach but it does seem a strange coincidence so hot on the heels of that scandal.
    Bad Blood, the book about Theranos is a great read. I've started watching the TV show but am not convinced it's going to add much.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    kingstongraham said:

    morstar said:

    pblakeney said:

    morstar said:

    morstar said:

    Watching The dropout on Disney.

    Based on the story of Elizabeth Holmes who had an idea for a blood analysis device that ended up in a multi million dollar fraud.

    Quite good. Eccentric character seemingly sometimes on the verge of losing the plot before becoming an almost cult like leader devoid of principle.

    Makes me think of Lance Armstrong. Much as these people don’t deserve sympathy, it does cause you to think how difficult it must be living an enormous lie that some people are desperate to uncover.

    Bizarre coincidence.
    Literally only 30 mins or so after posting this, I have just seen an advert for a Numan service that is effectively the service they were aiming to provide in this drama. There was nothing wrong with the idea, they just weren’t able to deliver it. I assume Numan aren’t repeating the same mistake.
    The blood test? I assume that they are. "Free if we don't find anything."
    That service will cost a fortune in the States to be done properly.
    Yes, the blood test.
    You’d hope they’re not just repeating the Theranos approach but it does seem a strange coincidence so hot on the heels of that scandal.
    Bad Blood, the book about Theranos is a great read. I've started watching the TV show but am not convinced it's going to add much.
    The TV show was my first real knowledge of any of the story beyond the headlines.

    I will take a look at the book as it’s quite an interesting story.

    Having read Wikipedia on the topic, the TV show is clearly only scraping the surface so I doubt you’ll learn anything new. I found the ending a little too early in the storyline too.
    I am half wondering if there are more episodes to come.

    It’s an OK watch but The lead character is very annoying. Intentional I presume.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    edited April 2022
    daniel_b said:

    Agreed on Crimson rivers (Not read the book or watched the film) that the plot lines are somewhat unusual shall we say.

    I find them very atmospheric though, both the way it is shot and the dialogue etc, seems to build suspense, although I can see how they can equally be seen as unrealistic - I guess for me the rest of it is enough to offset that me :)

    When I watched the first couple, I thought perhaps that was an outlier, but all 4 pairs of episodes in the first series are along similar lines I agree.
    I'm assuming this continues into the further series, and presumably they are being, or needing to be, faithful to some degree to the structure of the book, or books.

    Philippe Duclos turned up in Friday’s episode as the prison governor.
    You would know him Juge Roban from Spiral.
    Here he is basically playing……Juge Roban. :D

    Also playing a prison boss, Luca Zingaretti, who is better known as Inspector Montalbano, turns up in "The King", on Sky Atlantic, later this month.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    The Kanye West documentary on Netflix is, one episode in, really good.

    Remarkable that a relatively successful stand up comedian and tv presenter packed it all in to follow and film an unsigned rap producer and his entire journey.

    So much early footage. Incredible
    _
  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,127
    seanoconn said:

    daniel_b said:

    I'm already 6 episodes (3 stories) though series 1 of Crimson Rivers - it's awesome, not AS good as Spiral and quite different in concept and execution, but it is better than The Promise, which was let down by the ending I thought, and perhaps lack of episodes.

    Erika Sainte is a superb actor.


    Tried multiple times with this but can’t get into it. Plot lines and situations a little too silly and unrealistic.
    Crimson rivers is pretty low rent TV. There is nothing about the actor Olivier Marchal that makes me want to watch anything he is in tbh although at least he was once in the police.
    WTF happened to Erika Sainte, she used to be pretty.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    davidof said:

    seanoconn said:

    daniel_b said:

    I'm already 6 episodes (3 stories) though series 1 of Crimson Rivers - it's awesome, not AS good as Spiral and quite different in concept and execution, but it is better than The Promise, which was let down by the ending I thought, and perhaps lack of episodes.

    Erika Sainte is a superb actor.


    Tried multiple times with this but can’t get into it. Plot lines and situations a little too silly and unrealistic.
    Crimson rivers is pretty low rent TV. There is nothing about the actor Olivier Marchal that makes me want to watch anything he is in tbh although at least he was once in the police.
    WTF happened to Erika Sainte, she used to be pretty.
    davidof said:

    seanoconn said:

    daniel_b said:

    I'm already 6 episodes (3 stories) though series 1 of Crimson Rivers - it's awesome, not AS good as Spiral and quite different in concept and execution, but it is better than The Promise, which was let down by the ending I thought, and perhaps lack of episodes.

    Erika Sainte is a superb actor.


    Tried multiple times with this but can’t get into it. Plot lines and situations a little too silly and unrealistic.
    Crimson rivers is pretty low rent TV. There is nothing about the actor Olivier Marchal that makes me want to watch anything he is in tbh although at least he was once in the police.
    WTF happened to Erika Sainte, she used to be pretty.
    If you think Crimson Rivers is low rent tv, you ought to watch the stuff Channel 5 is currently churning out on a weekly basis. ITV and BBC are little better.

    I would have said the home of low rent French tv drama is TV 5 Monde. ( I still miss it not being on Sky and rue the day it went to streaming only)
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  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    Married at first sight, Australia. The most awful trashy telly but addictive.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    BBC's highlighted Masters Golf, or should I say coverage of Tiger Woods because that what at-least a quarter of the coverage showed. There are some British players in the tournament too. In fact, Danny Willett is sharing third.

    Modern media is all fixated on the controversy "Woods coming back from a car crash...he's had his ups and downs...here is a montage of pointless Tiger clips".
  • photonic69
    photonic69 Posts: 2,969
    ^^^^
    ^^^
    ^^
    No, no, no, no. no!!
    Why are you suggesting such low value, trashy tv fodder?!! It's incredible how we have 500+ channels and feeds to choose from yet all we get is these low value tv pap for the brain. I was just thinking last night as I flicked through endless dross that none of it appealed to me. None. Call it nostalgia but when we had far less choice we had better programming and stuff was made that people actually wanted to watch. Now it's just stuff to pass the time with.


    Sometimes. Maybe. Possibly.

  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    photonic69 said:

    ^^^^
    ^^^
    ^^
    No, no, no, no. no!!
    Why are you suggesting such low value, trashy tv fodder?!! It's incredible how we have 500+ channels and feeds to choose from yet all we get is these low value tv pap for the brain. I was just thinking last night as I flicked through endless dross that none of it appealed to me. None. Call it nostalgia but when we had far less choice we had better programming and stuff was made that people actually wanted to watch. Now it's just stuff to pass the time with.

    Yep, the vast majority is mindless drivel. I tend to view select youtube channels that I find interesting now.

    The strange thing Is I'm still of the TV generation. I find myself gravitating towards it, but the yoooofffffff. It's all about net content for the vast majority of them.

    Ohhh, time waits for no person of various genders.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    focuszing723 said:

    BBC's highlighted Masters Golf, or should I say coverage of Tiger Woods because that what at-least a quarter of the coverage showed. There are some British players in the tournament too. In fact, Danny Willett is sharing third.

    Modern media is all fixated on the controversy "Woods coming back from a car crash...he's had his ups and downs...here is a montage of pointless Tiger clips".

    I managed to watch about a third of the BBC coverage before deleting the recording.
    Not so much a major golf championship, more The Tiger Woods show.
    The BBC do like to fawn over certain sporting individuals, regardless of their character.

    A far better option is to watch Sky’s free live stream with commentary around Amen Corner on YouTube.
    At least you get to see many of those taking part.
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  • Tashman
    Tashman Posts: 3,497
    blazing_saddles said:

    focuszing723 said:

    BBC's highlighted Masters Golf, or should I say coverage of Tiger Woods because that what at-least a quarter of the coverage showed. There are some British players in the tournament too. In fact, Danny Willett is sharing third.

    Modern media is all fixated on the controversy "Woods coming back from a car crash...he's had his ups and downs...here is a montage of pointless Tiger clips".

    I managed to watch about a third of the BBC coverage before deleting the recording.
    Not so much a major golf championship, more The Tiger Woods show.
    The BBC do like to fawn over certain sporting individuals, regardless of their character.

    A far better option is to watch Sky’s free live stream with commentary around Amen Corner on YouTube.
    At least you get to see many of those taking part.
    Even the 3 minute shot of the day highlights on the website manage to include 2 shots of his. 1 granted was a great shot, the other a bit meh, just seemed to have to crowbar an extra 10 seconds in.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    blazing_saddles said:

    focuszing723 said:

    BBC's highlighted Masters Golf, or should I say coverage of Tiger Woods because that what at-least a quarter of the coverage showed. There are some British players in the tournament too. In fact, Danny Willett is sharing third.

    Modern media is all fixated on the controversy "Woods coming back from a car crash...he's had his ups and downs...here is a montage of pointless Tiger clips".

    I managed to watch about a third of the BBC coverage before deleting the recording.
    Not so much a major golf championship, more The Tiger Woods show.
    The BBC do like to fawn over certain sporting individuals, regardless of their character.

    A far better option is to watch Sky’s free live stream with commentary around Amen Corner on YouTube.
    At least you get to see many of those taking part.
    Cheers.

    I thought the one saving grace of the BBC, or so they keep telling us, is that it is supposed to avoid being biased.

    Also, this was the highlighted show, so there was no excuse not at-least share the coverage about Danny Willett, who performed.

    Ahhh. BBC's news tonight...Tiger Woods...
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154

    If they could, I'd bet they'd happily pay "Tiger" a couple of million to make an appearance in that monument to dire depressing drivel, Eastenders (new set, 90 million!)

    Give me strength.
  • seanoconn
    seanoconn Posts: 11,739
    focuszing723 said:

    BBC's highlighted Masters Golf, or should I say coverage of Tiger Woods because that what at-least a quarter of the coverage showed. There are some British players in the tournament too. In fact, Danny Willett is sharing third.

    Modern media is all fixated on the controversy "Woods coming back from a car crash...he's had his ups and downs...here is a montage of pointless Tiger clips".

    Rarely watch golf these days but I did tune into watch a bit of the Tiger Woods show. First tournament in a year, most thought he’d never play again…. -1 at the masters, awesome. More please.
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  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,833
    I'm afraid the Sky coverage is equally dominated by Tiger. It is an amazing story that he's even playing, but I would like to see some of the other players!

    Viktor Hovland for example, a European who is currently world number 4 wasn't shown at all until the 12th hole.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    seanoconn said:

    focuszing723 said:

    BBC's highlighted Masters Golf, or should I say coverage of Tiger Woods because that what at-least a quarter of the coverage showed. There are some British players in the tournament too. In fact, Danny Willett is sharing third.

    Modern media is all fixated on the controversy "Woods coming back from a car crash...he's had his ups and downs...here is a montage of pointless Tiger clips".

    Rarely watch golf these days but I did tune into watch a bit of the Tiger Woods show. First tournament in a year, most thought he’d never play again…. -1 at the masters, awesome. More please.
    **Y O U A R E T R Y I N G W I N D M E U P**

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  • seanoconn
    seanoconn Posts: 11,739
    focuszing723 said:

    seanoconn said:

    focuszing723 said:

    BBC's highlighted Masters Golf, or should I say coverage of Tiger Woods because that what at-least a quarter of the coverage showed. There are some British players in the tournament too. In fact, Danny Willett is sharing third.

    Modern media is all fixated on the controversy "Woods coming back from a car crash...he's had his ups and downs...here is a montage of pointless Tiger clips".

    Rarely watch golf these days but I did tune into watch a bit of the Tiger Woods show. First tournament in a year, most thought he’d never play again…. -1 at the masters, awesome. More please.
    **Y O U A R E T R Y I N G W I N D M E U P**

    You will be telling me you like Eastenders next.
    Phil Mitchell epic comeback from a near fatal car crash/shooting/alcoholism, I’m there!
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    Sky did show Tiger extensively - round one, he's the only guaranteed story. You'll just have to suck it up.

    I could have done without interviews with anyone other than Woods to be honest. An interview with Scottie Scheffler which consists of "are you playing well?" "yes" "are you confident and think you can challenge for the win" "yes, I do" I can live without.

    (I didn't think they overdid the Woods coverage while I was watching - I only started when he was on the 18th. There was a lot of golfers on the telly.)
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    edited April 2022
    kingstongraham said:

    Sky did show Tiger extensively - round one, he's the only guaranteed story. You'll just have to suck it up.

    I could have done without interviews with anyone other than Woods to be honest. An interview with Scottie Scheffler which consists of "are you playing well?" "yes" "are you confident and think you can challenge for the win" "yes, I do" I can live without.

    (I didn't think they overdid the Woods coverage while I was watching - I only started when he was on the 18th. There was a lot of golfers on the telly.)

    FORE!

  • seanoconn
    seanoconn Posts: 11,739
    kingstongraham said:

    Sky did show Tiger extensively - round one, he's the only guaranteed story. You'll just have to suck it up.

    I could have done without interviews with anyone other than Woods to be honest. An interview with Scottie Scheffler which consists of "are you playing well?" "yes" "are you confident and think you can challenge for the win" "yes, I do" I can live without.

    (I didn't think they overdid the Woods coverage while I was watching - I only started when he was on the 18th. There was a lot of golfers on the telly.)

    Caught the later part of Wood’s round and expert analysis after. Paul McGinley unfortunately shooting his bolt too early, not realising that every shot of Tiger’s was too be analysed and running out of things to say.
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  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    focuszing723 said:


    If they could, I'd bet they'd happily pay "Tiger" a couple of million to make an appearance in that monument to dire depressing drivel, Eastenders (new set, 90 million!)

    Give me strength.

    Ha, it looks like a model railway.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    darkhairedlord said:

    focuszing723 said:


    If they could, I'd bet they'd happily pay "Tiger" a couple of million to make an appearance in that monument to dire depressing drivel, Eastenders (new set, 90 million!)

    Give me strength.

    Ha, it looks like a model railway.
    The only difference is, I can understand a smidgin of entertainment gained from a model railway.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    kingstongraham said:

    Sky did show Tiger extensively - round one, he's the only guaranteed story. You'll just have to suck it up.

    I could have done without interviews with anyone other than Woods to be honest. An interview with Scottie Scheffler which consists of "are you playing well?" "yes" "are you confident and think you can challenge for the win" "yes, I do" I can live without.

    (I didn't think they overdid the Woods coverage while I was watching - I only started when he was on the 18th. There was a lot of golfers on the telly.)

    kingstongraham said:

    Sky did show Tiger extensively - round one, he's the only guaranteed story. You'll just have to suck it up.

    I could have done without interviews with anyone other than Woods to be honest. An interview with Scottie Scheffler which consists of "are you playing well?" "yes" "are you confident and think you can challenge for the win" "yes, I do" I can live without.

    (I didn't think they overdid the Woods coverage while I was watching - I only started when he was on the 18th. There was a lot of golfers on the telly.)

    Here's a bit of Tiger Wood's round from yesterday that somehow didn't make the BBC's 90 minute highlights......

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0piiQL-KJDo
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  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 12,040
    edited April 2022
    blazing_saddles said:

    daniel_b said:

    Agreed on Crimson rivers (Not read the book or watched the film) that the plot lines are somewhat unusual shall we say.

    I find them very atmospheric though, both the way it is shot and the dialogue etc, seems to build suspense, although I can see how they can equally be seen as unrealistic - I guess for me the rest of it is enough to offset that me :)

    When I watched the first couple, I thought perhaps that was an outlier, but all 4 pairs of episodes in the first series are along similar lines I agree.
    I'm assuming this continues into the further series, and presumably they are being, or needing to be, faithful to some degree to the structure of the book, or books.

    Philippe Duclos turned up in Friday’s episode as the prison governor.
    You would know him Juge Roban from Spiral.
    Here he is basically playing……Juge Roban. :D

    Also playing a prison boss, Luca Zingaretti, who is better known as Inspector Montalbano, turns up in "The King", on Sky Atlantic, later this month.
    Ah nice, I will keep an eye out for that!

    Yes noticed Montalbano is going to be in that, I'm a big fan of the book and the epically long series, I don't have Sky alas, so will have to wait a while to see any of it I suspect.
    Young Montalbano is possibly even better, with a massive Livia upgrade (Sarah Felderbaum) into the bargain.
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