TdF 2017: Stage 9 Nantua - Chambéry 181.5KM *Spoilers*
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RichN95 wrote:Anyway, enough of Aru, there's a more important question to ask?
Is George Bennett the new Haimar Zubeldia?
I think Bennett goes unnoticed at the moment because he doesn't have the history to suggest he's a contender. If he keeps up his current level he'll soon start to get noticed. Besides, I actually saw him on TV yesterday so I now he's real whereas HZ has never actually been seen and I still think his existence might be some peloton in joke (is there an anagram in his name or anything?).0 -
ugo.santalucia wrote:When we have to rely on people going to A&E to have a bit of fun, it's sad racing really... three major climbs and not a single noteworthy attack from any of the GC men... maybe they shouldn't allow chimps to design mountain stages. What was wrong with a mountain top finish?
Well people complained that MTFs were only raced in the last 3km, for a handful of seconds. If those seconds went to Froome then everyone complained that the race was over.
I don't think there's much race designers can do, tbh. The real issue is that Sky have the strongest team and the strongest rider.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
ugo.santalucia wrote:When we have to rely on people going to A&E to have a bit of fun, it's sad racing really... three major climbs and not a single noteworthy attack from any of the GC men... maybe they shouldn't allow chimps to design mountain stages. What was wrong with a mountain top finish?
Froome made a meaningful attack, and managed to drop the weaker "contenders".
After seeing how much slower Porte was than Froome descending in the Dauphine, it was likely to end in tears when that group went down that descent on the absolute limit for descenders as good as Froome and Bardet.0 -
We're only at the first rest day. Lots of climbing in the first week and it would be all over. It would be like a movie thriller where the heroes catch the villain after forty minutes followed by an hour of them doing their paperwork.ugo.santalucia wrote:When we have to rely on people going to A&E to have a bit of fun, it's sad racing really... three major climbs and not a single noteworthy attack from any of the GC men... maybe they shouldn't allow chimps to design mountain stages. What was wrong with a mountain top finish?
Not a lot had happened in the Giro at this stage either (other than crashes)Twitter: @RichN950 -
KingstonGraham wrote:ugo.santalucia wrote:When we have to rely on people going to A&E to have a bit of fun, it's sad racing really... three major climbs and not a single noteworthy attack from any of the GC men... maybe they shouldn't allow chimps to design mountain stages. What was wrong with a mountain top finish?
Froome made a meaningful attack, and managed to drop the weaker "contenders".
After seeing how much slower Porte was than Froome descending in the Dauphine, it was likely to end in tears when that group went down that descent on the absolute limit for descenders as good as Froome and Bardet.
I recall Porte, although looking a bit more 'on the limit', being only a few seconds slower than Froome over a whole descent.0 -
Alex99 wrote:KingstonGraham wrote:ugo.santalucia wrote:When we have to rely on people going to A&E to have a bit of fun, it's sad racing really... three major climbs and not a single noteworthy attack from any of the GC men... maybe they shouldn't allow chimps to design mountain stages. What was wrong with a mountain top finish?
Froome made a meaningful attack, and managed to drop the weaker "contenders".
After seeing how much slower Porte was than Froome descending in the Dauphine, it was likely to end in tears when that group went down that descent on the absolute limit for descenders as good as Froome and Bardet.
I recall Porte, although looking a bit more 'on the limit', being only a few seconds slower than Froome over a whole descent.
Which stage were you thinking of?0 -
The impressive thing about Froome’s descending, these days, is that he never looks to be seriously on the limit. The only thing that hints at effort is his hard pedalling out of corners.
He’s turned into the best all-round bike racer in the peloton. I love watching him. He has no significant weaknesses except perhaps endurance, which isn’t much of a weakness in an era of adults having prepubescent attention spans and 200 km stages being called ‘long’.0 -
OnYourRight wrote:The impressive thing about Froome’s descending, these days, is that he never looks to be seriously on the limit. The only thing that hints at effort is his hard pedalling out of corners.
He’s turned into the best all-round bike racer in the peloton. I love watching him. He has no significant weaknesses except perhaps endurance, which isn’t much of a weakness in an era of adults having prepubescent attention spans and 200 km stages being called ‘long’.
For me the most impressive thing about his descending is how bad he used to be!0 -
He also doesn't care about looking like an idiot. If he finds something is most efficient and fastest, he'll do it.
He'd underarm free throws in basketball, that's for sure.0 -
Right. Listened to the Cycling Podcast fellas discussing yday's stage and the Aru move, and they've won me over
Go ahead and attack the leader. It's supposed to be a race
(but also have the cojones - both Aru and Froome - not to spin the 'I never saw nuffink' bullsheet)0 -
You needed winning over that someone should attack Froome by any means necessary?Richmond Racer 2 wrote:Right. Listened to the Cycling Podcast fellas discussing yday's stage and the Aru move, and they've won me overTwitter: @RichN950 -
lordy
such emotive stuff
may I point you to my initial posts/tweets yday
But listening to Moore, Birnie and Thomazeau debate the issue....#jesuisCyclingPodcast0 -
Richmond Racer 2 wrote:lordy
such emotive stuff
may I point you to my initial posts/tweets yday
But listening to Moore, Birnie and Thomazeau debate the issue....#jesuisCyclingPodcast
#itsbullshit“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
If you don't like Moore, Birnie et al you could always try LA's pod...Rich0
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That is still Valverde. Troubled history notwithstanding. I'd put Sagan ahead for that as well.OnYourRight wrote:He’s turned into the best all-round bike racer in the peloton. I love watching him. He has no significant weaknesses except perhaps endurance, which isn’t much of a weakness in an era of adults having prepubescent attention spans and 200 km stages being called ‘long’.PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 20230 -
Stef Clement on Froome's bike handling
"Froome - oh man he's just terrible - he crashes 4 times a day - almost - - and that breathing he does when he looks down - nightmare - don't want to ride anywhere near that."
*on watching the Froome veer rightwards into Art*
"yeah Froome doesn't have teammates there to clear a route for him so he can follow. It was the same with Schleck who had Voigt and Cancellara to follow".
"Froome is so busy looknig at his power and his weird breathing technique he regularly misses stuff and bounces into riders."
"he gives off an aura in the peloton (on the rare occasion i'm with him) that you need to give him some space otherwise he gets very nervous"
Bahahahaha
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^Do you want to quote the source then?0
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FocusZing wrote:^Do you want to quote the source then?
https://www.rtl.nl/video/4006be66-2efb- ... 1499635591
enjoy.
Translate it yourself if you want
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I think it was Ferrari who said years ago that his looking down was probably a breathing technique rather than power meter related
Yep in 2013
https://www.53x12.com/tdf-2013---part-iiiFckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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What is that meant to be saying? In that cartoon AG2R are going all plunge to their death, which is a harsh assessment of tactics that had some success.TailWindHome wrote:Twitter: @RichN950 -
RichN95 wrote:What is that meant to be saying? In that cartoon AG2R are going all plunge to their death, which is a harsh assessment of tactics that had some success.
I took it as an assessment that the AG2R tactics were desperate, reckless and as liable to cause injury to their own riders as the rest.
Had you not described the tactic as a 'stunt' achieving nothing but 'putting a few riders in hospital'?“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Their mid stage antics, yes. As soon as they got to the valley they deferred to Sky. Bardet at the end achieved something. But ultimately others did the real damage.TailWindHome wrote:RichN95 wrote:What is that meant to be saying? In that cartoon AG2R are going all plunge to their death, which is a harsh assessment of tactics that had some success.
I took it as an assessment that the AG2R tactics were desperate, reckless and as liable to cause injury to their own riders as the rest.
Had you not described the tactic as a 'stunt' achieving nothing but 'putting a few riders in hospital'?Twitter: @RichN950 -
RichN95 wrote:
Their mid stage antics, yes. As soon as they got to the valley they deferred to Sky. Bardet at the end achieved something. But ultimately others did the real damage.TailWindHome wrote:RichN95 wrote:What is that meant to be saying? In that cartoon AG2R are going all plunge to their death, which is a harsh assessment of tactics that had some success.
I took it as an assessment that the AG2R tactics were desperate, reckless and as liable to cause injury to their own riders as the rest.
Had you not described the tactic as a 'stunt' achieving nothing but 'putting a few riders in hospital'?
I'd have thought the cartoon refers to the mid stage 'antics'“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
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FocusZing wrote:
If cyclists could gain an advantage by feigning injury, they would.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
Fictitious Tues I guess.0
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^^Football would have brought on a substitute and treated their competitors as valuable assets, not crash porn.
Neymar may be faking it to try and gain a free kick/card, but when your sport had a decade or two of an EPO free for all the moral high ground is as shaky as a half hour old game of Jenga.Twitter: @RichN950 -
Also, we've all seen riders who shake their heads because they've got no energy left to work with a break and miraculously recover for the sprint.0
