TDF 2017: Stage 4- Mondorf-les-Bains - Vittel 207.5kms *Spoilers*

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  • twotoebenny
    twotoebenny Posts: 1,542
    I think I'd be happier with a few Renshaw head butts than that elbow
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Sagan having words with Bernie at the DD bus.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • lostboysaint
    lostboysaint Posts: 4,250
    Much as we all love Sagan that looks awfully deliberate*

    *not in a "I'm seeing you off the bike and into the barriers" but certainly in a "you're not getting through" way.
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  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,317
    Dave Millar letting us know that the danger of bunch sprinting is the reason why he never got involved with it.
  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    BigMat wrote:
    Poor Cav. Any news on G? No time loss presumably, but hope he's fit for tomorrow. Hate crashes taking the major players out before you even get to see them race properly. :(


    He looked fine pedalling in with Kwiato and Henao
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    "Really dirty". I'm loving the disgust of the Dutch commentators.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • dabber
    dabber Posts: 1,982
    So will any action be taken against sagan or will thye whitewash it?
    “You may think that; I couldn’t possibly comment!”

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  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    Ask Sagz about the elbow, journos
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,029
    Interesting market movement on Sagan for the green jersey. He finished 2nd, Kittel didn't get any points, but his implied probability has nearly halved (odds doubled).
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    So I haven't watched any of it, but I'm not a Sagan fan... so I say disqualify him.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Yes, let's also concentrate on how good Demare's sprint was. It was a perfect sprint.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • bigmat
    bigmat Posts: 5,134
    Richmond Racer 2 wrote:
    BigMat wrote:
    Poor Cav. Any news on G? No time loss presumably, but hope he's fit for tomorrow. Hate crashes taking the major players out before you even get to see them race properly. :(


    He looked fine pedalling in with Kwiato and Henao

    Cheers, no pictures here so I'll go easy on Sagan for now! At least Cav can get a proper bit of rest now for a few weeks, probably what he really needs. Come back stronger next year.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    Brilliant sprint from Demare.
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,183
    Cav's acceleration was looking very tasty there, was in with a very good shout
  • ben@31
    ben@31 Posts: 2,327
    edited July 2017
    TheBigBean wrote:
    Cav is not going to be happy.

    What? Cav has days when he's happy ?
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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Roger's a little p*ssed.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    Above The Cows wrote:
    Yes, let's also concentrate on how good Demare's sprint was. It was a perfect sprint.

    Apart from Demare cutting Bouhanni off...
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • philwint
    philwint Posts: 763
    Had the sound off for the post patch analysis, so It looks like I'm going to have to watch the highlights later.

    Watching the various slow mo's - I'm not sure there was a gap there for cav, but still looked bad from Sagan
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,029
    Mad_Malx wrote:
    Cav's acceleration was looking very tasty there, was in with a very good shout

    I picked him in PTP as I thought he was in reasonable form and often does well without pressure.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,611
    I'd throw him off the tour for that - he knew what he was doing and has probably just put another rider out of the race as a result of his recklessness. Video don't look good for the WC
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Richmond Racer 2 wrote:
    Baron o Buchlyvie wrote:
    The ITV lads (Imlach and Boardman) were fairly sure Sagan hasn't seen Cavendish, he's just been forced right and in trying to keep his balance has thrown his elbow out. According to them they're sure that Cav just came round him at the wrong moment. Sagan was having a right go at Greipel as he crossed the line though. Bloody terrible crash, but I would hang back from burning Sagan at the stake just yet.


    We're cycling fans, dont be crazy, course we have the pitchforks
    On the other hand Sagan could hit another rider with a hammer and David Millar would blame someone else, he's that much in love
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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    Above The Cows wrote:
    Yes, let's also concentrate on how good Demare's sprint was. It was a perfect sprint.

    Apart from Demare cutting Bouhanni off...

    I've been too busy looking at elbows.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    RichN95 wrote:
    Richmond Racer 2 wrote:
    Baron o Buchlyvie wrote:
    The ITV lads (Imlach and Boardman) were fairly sure Sagan hasn't seen Cavendish, he's just been forced right and in trying to keep his balance has thrown his elbow out. According to them they're sure that Cav just came round him at the wrong moment. Sagan was having a right go at Greipel as he crossed the line though. Bloody terrible crash, but I would hang back from burning Sagan at the stake just yet.


    We're cycling fans, dont be crazy, course we have the pitchforks
    On the other hand Sagan could hit another rider with a hammer and David Millar would blame someone else, he's that much in love



    True dat
  • shockedsoshocked
    shockedsoshocked Posts: 4,021
    edited July 2017
    Overhead looks like Demare cuts left cutting off Bouhanni, Cav tries to follow, Sagan in the way coming right?
    "A cyclist has nothing to lose but his chain"

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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Well I miss timed that.

    Caught the Cav crash replay. That was it.

    Sagan using his elbow again, right?
    _
  • B3rnieMac
    B3rnieMac Posts: 384
    https://u.nya.is/eyxtip.mp4

    last kilometre here.
  • lettingthedaysgoby
    lettingthedaysgoby Posts: 1,732
    I think this will eventually come down to "that's bike racing".
  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,317
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    Above The Cows wrote:
    Yes, let's also concentrate on how good Demare's sprint was. It was a perfect sprint.

    Apart from Demare cutting Bouhanni off...

    Exactly! Not a Bouhanni fan and chose Demare today... but he proper cut NB up
  • pirnie
    pirnie Posts: 242
    Lotto Soudal DS saying that Griepel has already accused Sagan of unsafe riding this tour, and again today...
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Well I miss timed that.

    Caught the Cav crash replay. That was it.

    Sagan using his elbow again, right?

    Yep. And the Dutch Europsort commentators seem convinced Sagan also caused the Thomas/Kittel crash.

    Lotto Soudal DS is not impressed, Greipel is apparently saying Sagan is not his friend anymore.
    Correlation is not causation.

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