snap general election?

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  • graeme_s-2
    graeme_s-2 Posts: 3,382
    they seem to offer quite a lot of funding and support
    https://www.investni.com/index.html
    My father in law worked in the private sector (mostly engineering management) in NI for most of his working life, but did his last few years before retiring at Invest NI. According to him their energy costs are higher in NI which makes industry there quite expensive. No idea what factors lead to this, how much more expensive it is than the rest of the UK, or how it compares to Ireland.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,484
    What advantages are there to be in NI over, Ireland, or indeed, the mainland?

    The best reconstructive knee surgery in the world. Maybe that is a myth.
  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    But the £1billion payment - the equivalent of £33 for every taxpayer in the UK - could be only the start after DUP sources hinted that they will ask for more cash when the deal is “reviewed” in two years’ time.
    from the Torygraph
    Pandoras box, only politicians can be so naive
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    But the £1billion payment - the equivalent of £33 for every taxpayer in the UK - could be only the start after DUP sources hinted that they will ask for more cash when the deal is “reviewed” in two years’ time.
    from the Torygraph
    Pandoras box, only politicians can be so naive

    reviewed with who in two years??
  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    What happens with the £1b if there is another general election and change of govt?

    Not looking likely....and I'd assume NI would still receive the money.
  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    But the £1billion payment - the equivalent of £33 for every taxpayer in the UK - could be only the start after DUP sources hinted that they will ask for more cash when the deal is “reviewed” in two years’ time.
    from the Torygraph
    Pandoras box, only politicians can be so naive

    reviewed with who in two years??
    apparently it's in the agreement that it is to be reviewed after Brexit (with the cons) if still in power?
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    Bloody hell, got my payslip today and my NI contributions have gone up!
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  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    Bloody hell, got my payslip today and my NI contributions have gone up!
    :D:D
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,310
    In my mind it's a sh!thole, but then, rather like Africa, I only really see it when it's on fire or stuff is particularly grim.

    So, this London I've been hearing a lot about recently...... :wink:
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,532
    In my mind it's a sh!thole, but then, rather like Africa, I only really see it when it's on fire or stuff is particularly grim.

    So, this London I've been hearing a lot about recently...... :wink:


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  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    So, today the bung Parliament will vote down the amendment in relation to raises for nurses, police, firemen etc.........
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,532
    Anyone see what Oliver Letwin had to say?
    Getting back to balanced budgets] is compatible with easing up a little, not a great splurge, but easing up a little on spending on key public services if one is prepared to bite the bullet of carefully judged and carefully presented tax increases ...

    I think there is a recognition that, while some taxes are extremely difficult to live with for some people, other taxes, if you get it right, can be raised in a careful way without provoking massive problems for families ...

    The principle that we’ve worked on over the past many years now, since 2010, has been that the better off should bear the bigger part of whatever strains the economy suffers. And that is what’s happened over the past few years, despite much rhetoric to the contrary. And that will need to go on being the case. There’s no doubt that those of us who are lucky enough to have higher incomes will have to bear, in one way or another, a larger share of the cost of any increases in public service expenditure. But I’m not at all pretending that you can restrict the chancellor to only dealing with whatever Mr Corbyn or somebody else defines as the very rich.
    It may well be that, in one way or another, a large number of people will have to pay a little more tax if we are going to maintain the trend towards reduced deficits, and yet spend a bit more on the crucial public services that do need more spent on them.
    :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 26,936
    We are all in this together.
    Unless it suits otherwise.
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  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    Philip Davies just urged May to cut overseas aid. Interesting dynamic to watch.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 26,936
    Philip Davies just urged May to cut overseas aid. Interesting dynamic to watch.
    Does that include N.I.? :lol:
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,051
    Philip Davies just urged May to cut overseas aid. Interesting dynamic to watch.
    Actually a pretty good reply from TM. PD is the men's rights nutter, no?
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  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    rjsterry wrote:
    Philip Davies just urged May to cut overseas aid. Interesting dynamic to watch.
    Actually a pretty good reply from TM. PD is the men's rights nutter, no?
    It was. And he is
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,051
    NOTHING HAS CHANGED! again.

    Just when you think you see signs of getting a grip on things.

    Also, I find myself agreeing with Nicholas Soames re social care. To paraphrase: stop f***ing about and just sort it out - it's really not that complicated.
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  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    rjsterry wrote:
    NOTHING HAS CHANGED! again.

    Just when you think you see signs of getting a grip on things.

    Also, I find myself agreeing with Nicholas Soames re social care. To paraphrase: stop f***ing about and just sort it out - it's really not that complicated.

    Well, Philip Davies also asked whether she wanted a policy which would win votes. Seemingly, it's still no.
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  • Frank the tank
    Frank the tank Posts: 6,553
    A £1billion bribe, absolutely sickening. Whilst curtailing the incomes of ordinary public sector workers (pay cuts in real terms) in austerity measures; this shower find a billion quid to keep themselves in power. Absolute b@st@rds.
    Tail end Charlie

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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,532
    Given this is fiscal spending in its most naked form, I find it difficult to see why pro-austerity tories are so comfortable with it.

    And I don't mean MPs.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 26,936
    Some think it only costs £3 to keep the tories in power.
    May needs £1 billion. A sign of things to come...
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,532
    Meanwhile: https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... SApp_Other

    Have to say the food bank increase is getting more and more shameful.

    Caught a Dutch program where they went around Uk food banks and wondered openly how such a rich society could have such poverty.
  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    As my wife is a nurse this hits a particular nerve, but was quite appalling to hear the cheering when the result was read out.

    Yes, I know it was aimed towards Corbyn/Labour having been slapped down.....but they easily forget that the people affected are sat at home watching. Just show some f*cking respect, it's not difficult.
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    Dinyull wrote:
    As my wife is a nurse this hits a particular nerve, but was quite appalling to hear the cheering when the result was read out.

    Yes, I know it was aimed towards Corbyn/Labour having been slapped down.....but they easily forget that the people affected are sat at home watching. Just show some f*cking respect, it's not difficult.

    Respect? You only have to read comments from certain corners of these fora, to see there's little (none?) respect for anyone having the temerity to vote to the left of centre.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 26,936
    Ben6899 wrote:
    Dinyull wrote:
    As my wife is a nurse this hits a particular nerve, but was quite appalling to hear the cheering when the result was read out.

    Yes, I know it was aimed towards Corbyn/Labour having been slapped down.....but they easily forget that the people affected are sat at home watching. Just show some f*cking respect, it's not difficult.

    Respect? You only have to read comments from certain corners of these fora, to see there's little (none?) respect for anyone having the temerity to vote to the left of centre.
    Or even centre.
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  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    My comments were aimed at the MP's cheering.....you would think those that are meant to represent the people should know better.

    Even if Labour/SNP/LD were jeering at Conservatives (and they were), they would have been much better sitting on their hands not responding than cheering back and in turn looking like a bunch of absolute c*nts.

    Crass.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 60,550
    A £1billion bribe, absolutely sickening. Whilst curtailing the incomes of ordinary public sector workers (pay cuts in real terms) in austerity measures; this shower find a billion quid to keep themselves in power. Absolute b@st@rds.
    Chicken feed compared to the £90 billion it was estimated that Corbyn was promising to splash about on his favoured sets of people and activities.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,532
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    A £1billion bribe, absolutely sickening. Whilst curtailing the incomes of ordinary public sector workers (pay cuts in real terms) in austerity measures; this shower find a billion quid to keep themselves in power. Absolute b@st@rds.
    Chicken feed compared to the £90 billion it was estimated that Corbyn was promising to splash about on his favoured sets of people and activities.

    But only a quarter of the £4bn needed to raise pay in the NHS, right?
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 60,550
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    A £1billion bribe, absolutely sickening. Whilst curtailing the incomes of ordinary public sector workers (pay cuts in real terms) in austerity measures; this shower find a billion quid to keep themselves in power. Absolute b@st@rds.
    Chicken feed compared to the £90 billion it was estimated that Corbyn was promising to splash about on his favoured sets of people and activities.

    But only a quarter of the £4bn needed to raise pay in the NHS, right?
    Mathematically you're right Rick.

    Just be glad a certain shower don't get to pee away our hard earned tax dollars on lots of Labour manifesto items which I'm sure you don't agree with.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]