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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Whatever makes you feel better MSR. I'm not here to judge people on intelligence or otherwise. I don't really care, and I think intelligence broadly is overrated anyway.
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  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Whatever makes you feel better MSR. I'm not here to judge people on intelligence or otherwise. I don't really care, and I think intelligence broadly is overrated anyway.

    Yeah - I don't really care either.

    In any case, I don't think intelligence is necessarily the issue at stake but more about how informed people are.

    Until very recently, I was a total stranger to the world of benefits. Through my daughter, I think I now understand far better and so I'm far better informed to understand policy. Same could be said for the NHS. I've always been close to education because of my kids and because my wife works in the sector. Etc. I think that's what age gives you - exposure to life and an understanding of policy based upon that.
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  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    meanredspider wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Whatever makes you feel better MSR. I'm not here to judge people on intelligence or otherwise. I don't really care, and I think intelligence broadly is overrated anyway.

    Yeah - I don't really care either.

    In any case, I don't think intelligence is necessarily the issue at stake but more about how informed people are.

    Until very recently, I was a total stranger to the world of benefits. Through my daughter, I think I now understand far better and so I'm far better informed to understand policy. Same could be said for the NHS. I've always been close to education because of my kids and because my wife works in the sector. Etc. I think that's what age gives you - exposure to life and an understanding of policy based upon that.

    and age gives you the experience to make a rational appraisal of the warnings of doom and promises of milk and honey. Pre-Corbyn we had 20 years of consensus politics in which we were just changing the emphasis.
  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    1

    billion

    pounds

    mwa mwa ha ha ha
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  • narbs
    narbs Posts: 593
    So in three weeks she's blown her parliamentary majority, given away a billion quid and abandoned almost all of her manifesto promises.

    Superb work.
  • narbs
    narbs Posts: 593
    bendertherobot wrote:
    1

    billion

    pounds

    mwa mwa ha ha ha

    All to secure votes she was guaranteed to get anyway.

    A masterclass in negotiation!
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    bendertherobot wrote:
    1

    billion

    pounds

    mwa mwa ha ha ha

    Plus the cost of maintaining the triple lock. And maintaining the winter fuel payment. Those bits that were unsustainable a few weeks back.

    But... the £1bn will be made available to the power-sharing Executive. So isn't available until there is one?
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,459
    Adrian Chiles to Theresea Villiers

    "The good news in this is that someone has found a magic money tree!"

    :lol:
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,872
    meanredspider wrote:
    In any case, I don't think intelligence is necessarily the issue at stake but more about how informed people are.
    Very much so, ignorance is a far bigger issue than levels of intelligence.
    If everybody was well informed a few would not have the wit to process the information. This number would be significantly smaller than the number that are currently ill informed.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,499
    bendertherobot wrote:
    1

    billion

    pounds

    mwa mwa ha ha ha
    Just how thin is the line between this deal and bribery?
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    It's just a grant. Not bribery, not related to Barnett. Nothing to see here...................
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,499
    bendertherobot wrote:
    It's just a grant. Not bribery, not related to Barnett. Nothing to see here...................
    No. No. No. Of course not.
    And we talk about corruption in the EU like we are special.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    what does this mean?
    No Irish border poll without "consent of the people"

    this seems to leave a lot of wriggle room and indicate wider thinking
    Cash support for farmers will remain at current levels until the next election
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,499
    Surrey Commuter wrote:
    what does this mean?
    No Irish border poll without "consent of the people"

    this seems to leave a lot of wriggle room and indicate wider thinking
    Cash support for farmers will remain at current levels until the next election
    1. Hard Brexit results in a hard border without any poll on the matter.
    2. Cash support gets cut after November.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
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  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    just how low can a country go....
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,459
    Reflect on how a bunch of climate denying dinosaurs you had to Google a fortnight ago have kicked the s**t out of the government for 10 votes they had anyway.

    Should go well for Brexit
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,834
    narbs wrote:
    bendertherobot wrote:
    1

    billion

    pounds

    mwa mwa ha ha ha

    All to secure votes she was guaranteed to get anyway.

    A masterclass in negotiation!
    How much was Corbyn promising to give away in order to secure votes? This is small beer by comparison.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Reflect on how a bunch of climate denying dinosaurs you had to Google a fortnight ago have kicked the s**t out of the government for 10 votes they had anyway.

    Should go well for Brexit

    :lol:
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  • narbs
    narbs Posts: 593
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    narbs wrote:
    bendertherobot wrote:
    1

    billion

    pounds

    mwa mwa ha ha ha

    All to secure votes she was guaranteed to get anyway.

    A masterclass in negotiation!
    How much was Corbyn promising to give away in order to secure votes? This is small beer by comparison.

    Superb.

    Entirely expected, but superbly delivered nonetheless.
  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    narbs wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    narbs wrote:
    bendertherobot wrote:
    1

    billion

    pounds

    mwa mwa ha ha ha

    All to secure votes she was guaranteed to get anyway.

    A masterclass in negotiation!
    How much was Corbyn promising to give away in order to secure votes? This is small beer by comparison.

    Superb.

    Entirely expected, but superbly delivered nonetheless.
    it's the way he tells em! :D
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    narbs wrote:
    bendertherobot wrote:
    1

    billion

    pounds

    mwa mwa ha ha ha

    All to secure votes she was guaranteed to get anyway.

    A masterclass in negotiation!
    How much was Corbyn promising to give away in order to secure votes? This is small beer by comparison.

    Scotland.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,819
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    narbs wrote:
    bendertherobot wrote:
    1

    billion

    pounds

    mwa mwa ha ha ha

    All to secure votes she was guaranteed to get anyway.

    A masterclass in negotiation!
    How much was Corbyn promising to give away in order to secure votes? This is small beer by comparison.
    As you keep telling everyone, they didn't win. Who cares what they promised. Point is, the DUP would have voted with the government anyway for fear of giving JC the slightest advantage. The so-called concessions were effectively off the table anyway. So what was the money for?
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  • Bobbinogs
    Bobbinogs Posts: 4,841
    rjsterry wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    narbs wrote:
    bendertherobot wrote:
    1

    billion

    pounds

    mwa mwa ha ha ha

    All to secure votes she was guaranteed to get anyway.

    A masterclass in negotiation!
    How much was Corbyn promising to give away in order to secure votes? This is small beer by comparison.
    As you keep telling everyone, they didn't win....

    Well, I know that, you know that and most of the folks on here know that...but I am not sure the actual result has sunk in at Labour HQ given by some recent statements!!
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,872
    rjsterry wrote:
    So what was the money for?
    Strength and stability?
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,459
    If you're interested in an NI perspective on this Slugger O Toole is the go to blog on NI political discussion

    https://sluggerotoole.com/2017/06/26/fi ... ervatives/
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    anybody know how they have managed to give the £1bn outside of the Barnett Formula?
  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    Surrey Commuter wrote:
    anybody know how they have managed to give the £1bn outside of the Barnett Formula?

    It's a block grant.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    bendertherobot wrote:
    Surrey Commuter wrote:
    anybody know how they have managed to give the £1bn outside of the Barnett Formula?

    It's a block grant.

    Can imagine Ruth Davidson is not happy about this.
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  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    Ruth, it's a block grant.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    bendertherobot wrote:
    Ruth, it's a block grant.

    "Come say that to my lesbian catholic wife and all the Scots who just voted Tory - it's literally in the manifesto we put together."
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