snap general election?

meanredspider · June 2017

PBlakeney wrote:

joe2008 wrote:

meanredspider wrote:

I'll be very satisfied if the poisoned dwarf in Scotland steps aside.

Where's she hiding?

Flip side to that.
What would TM give to have that majority?

Though May could argue that she did at least increase her share of the vote. Ms Crankie and May share the same misjudgement both thinking they had more support than they did. Looks like Scoxit is off the agenda for a while at least.

Ruth Davidson has emerged as quite a powerful character.

I was delighted to see that to55er Angus Robertson lose his seat - he's a nasty piece of work.

ugo.santalucia · June 2017

bompington wrote:

Come to think of it, haven't seen much of Boris lately...

He is plotting... his only chance of limelight is to take a distance from May... not even sure whay he accepted a position in the cabinet... it was a stupid move.

Proof of the pudding, he has been re elected in Uxbridge with an unchanged majority, so there is still trust for BoJo... I expect him to make a comeback in a year or two

bendertherobot · June 2017

To save everyone googling DUP, the Mirror have done it for us

The Democratic Unionist Party are the anti-abortion pro Brexit party of climate change deniers who don't believe in LGBT rights who Theresa May needs to prop up her failing governement.

TheBigBean · June 2017

ugo.santalucia wrote:

He is plotting... his only chance of limelight is to take a distance from May... not even sure whay he accepted a position in the cabinet... it was a stupid move.

To gain cabinet experience to better position himself for PM in the future. Many people felt he lacked experience.

mrfpb · June 2017

PArlaiment = 650 seats
Take away 7 Sinn Fein Seats = 643 seats
Majority (seats/2)+1 = 322

Cons (318) + DUP (10) = 328
Rest of Parites 643-328 = 315

Working majority of 13. Not going to work given that a Con working majority of 16 never worked. Expect a general election in the Autumn.

kingstongraham · June 2017

bendertherobot wrote:

To save everyone googling DUP, the Mirror have done it for us

The Democratic Unionist Party are the anti-abortion pro Brexit party of climate change deniers who don't believe in LGBT rights who Theresa May needs to prop up her failing governement.

It sounds maybe a little one sided. Haven't they missed out the bit about the "ash for cash" where they managed to engineer a system that paid people more in subsidies for burning fuel than the cost of the fuel?

mrfpb · June 2017

Paul Nuttal resigns as UKIP leader.

I suspect Nige has already booked his ticket home.

mamba80 · June 2017

i suspect sinn fein will take up their seats......

who are ukip ?

bendertherobot · June 2017

mamba80 wrote:

i suspect sinn fein will take up their seats......

who are ukip ?

Hell hasn't frozen over........

coopster_the_1st · June 2017

Not the result I wanted to see but it definitely could have been worse.

I'm not unhappy because of the following:

Clegg lost his seat

(Maybe now he will understand what respecting democracy means)
Angus Robertson lost his seat

Alex Salmond lost his seat

(One less gobsh!te)

The only downside was Anna Soubry retained her seat

(I would happily have gifted this to another party and would have voted tactically if I lived in that constiuency)

This election has solved two problems but created another.

The two problems solved are the Lib Dems and SNP(IndyRef2). There should be a lot less noise from them going forward.

The problem created is that politics will now move onto who can give away the most, no matter what it costs. The national debt will be ignored. No-one will try to solve it until it is actually causing us a problem. That scares me!

And London. WTF!!! Diane Abbott's constituency re-elect her with 75% of the vote :shock: :roll:

mrfpb · June 2017

mamba80 wrote:

i suspect sinn fein will take up their seats......

who are ukip ?

Sinn Fein have never taken up there seats in over 30 yrs in Parlaiment. Admittedly their first MP, Bobby Sands, would have found it difficult.

There is no indication they are going to start now.

mamba80 · June 2017

bendertherobot wrote:

mamba80 wrote:

i suspect sinn fein will take up their seats......

who are ukip ?

Hell hasn't frozen over........

dont bet against it, i have a 100% track record of success lol!

Corbyn was thinking ahead back in the 70s and 80s.....

mamba80 · June 2017

mrfpb wrote:

mamba80 wrote:

i suspect sinn fein will take up their seats......

who are ukip ?

Sinn Fein have never taken up there seats in over 30 yrs in Parlaiment. Admittedly their first MP, Bobby Sands, would have found it difficult.

There is no indication they are going to start now.

Have nt you been to the House of Lords ?

rick_chasey · June 2017

Coopster the 1st wrote:

Not the result I wanted to see but it definitely could have been worse.

I'm not unhappy because of the following:

Clegg lost his seat (Maybe now he will understand what respecting democracy means)
Angus Robertson lost his seat
Alex Salmond lost his seat (One less gobsh!te)

The only downside was Anna Soubry retained her seat (I would happily have gifted this to another party and would have voted tactically if I lived in that constiuency)

This election has solved two problems but created another.

The two problems solved are the Lib Dems and SNP(IndyRef2). There should be a lot less noise from them going forward.

The problem created is that politics will now move onto who can give away the most, no matter what it costs. The national debt will be ignored. No-one will try to solve it until it is actually causing us a problem. That scares me!

And London. WTF!!! Diane Abbott's constituency re-elect her with 75% of the vote :shock: :roll:

Result is a rejection of hard brexit mate.

Suck it up. The people have spoken.

FocusZing · June 2017

Coopster the 1st wrote:

Not the result I wanted to see but it definitely could have been worse.

I'm not unhappy because of the following:

Clegg lost his seat (Maybe now he will understand what respecting democracy means)
Angus Robertson lost his seat
Alex Salmond lost his seat (One less gobsh!te)

The only downside was Anna Soubry retained her seat (I would happily have gifted this to another party and would have voted tactically if I lived in that constiuency)

This election has solved two problems but created another.

The two problems solved are the Lib Dems and SNP(IndyRef2). There should be a lot less noise from them going forward.

The problem created is that politics will now move onto who can give away the most, no matter what it costs. The national debt will be ignored. No-one will try to solve it until it is actually causing us a problem. That scares me!

And London. WTF!!! Diane Abbott's constituency re-elect her with 75% of the vote :shock: :roll:

I can only put that down to a backlash to the constant negative press she was getting.

veronese68 · June 2017

Coopster the 1st wrote:

And London. WTF!!! Diane Abbott's constituency re-elect her with 75% of the vote :shock: :roll:

Maybe she's not as crazy as the right wing press portray her and she works hard as a constituency MP. I don't agree with a lot of what she says, too extreme for my liking, and I do think she has had a bit of a melt down recently. Maybe I should say a bit more of a melt down. But, she must be doing something right as far as her constituents are concerned.

Regarding the whole thing I'd say it's an almighty fcuk up. The Tory party and their supreme leader called the election thinking they'd have a walk over. They keep banging on about uniting the country behind a strong brexit. I think the result shows that the country is still very much split and they've been ignoring the wishes of nearly half of the population. What they should have been doing is taking the negotiations with the EU more seriously and preparing rather than spouting meaningless soundbites. David Davis didn't even know what one of their favourite soundbites could cost the country as they hadn't looked into it. Now, instead of getting on with it we are going to have to put up with more bickering and Tory party infighting as they try to feather their nests further. They really should be ashamed of themselves.

coopster_the_1st · June 2017

Rick Chasey wrote:

Coopster the 1st wrote:

Not the result I wanted to see but it definitely could have been worse.

I'm not unhappy because of the following:

Clegg lost his seat (Maybe now he will understand what respecting democracy means)
Angus Robertson lost his seat
Alex Salmond lost his seat (One less gobsh!te)

The only downside was Anna Soubry retained her seat (I would happily have gifted this to another party and would have voted tactically if I lived in that constiuency)

This election has solved two problems but created another.

The two problems solved are the Lib Dems and SNP(IndyRef2). There should be a lot less noise from them going forward.

The problem created is that politics will now move onto who can give away the most, no matter what it costs. The national debt will be ignored. No-one will try to solve it until it is actually causing us a problem. That scares me!

And London. WTF!!! Diane Abbott's constituency re-elect her with 75% of the vote :shock: :roll:

Result is a rejection of hard brexit mate.

Suck it up. The people have spoken.

I think the lack of success of the Lib UnDemocrats shows what people feel about the Brexit. Over 575 constituencies votes for a Brexit party.

Hard Brexit is only off the table if the EU offer a reasonable deal(First they need to backtrack hugely on €100bn exit fee). I hope they do but I'm now less confident. They will use this result to try to further exploit the UK. They've got use to us being a soft touch since Maggie left

kingstongraham · June 2017

Coopster the 1st wrote:

I think the lack of success of the Lib UnDemocrats shows what people feel about the Brexit. Over 575 constituencies votes for a Brexit party.

I admire your commitment, but calling Labour or Conservatives a "Brexit party" is stretching it a bit.

UKIP is the result you're after.

rick_chasey · June 2017

Spin it all you want coopster, soft brexit/non-brexit parties won the majority of the votes.

May calls a hard brexit, has the biggest lead loss in modern British politics.

Corbyn vows to keep single market, gets a vote upswing.

Go figure.

meanredspider · June 2017

Even Frog-Face is worried about a second referendum after yesterday

mrfpb · June 2017

DUP are a soft brexit party - they want an open Irish border and access to continuing EU funding for a vast number of projects in NI). There is no hard brexit partner available to the Conservatives.

coopster_the_1st · June 2017

Rick Chasey wrote:

Corbyn vows to keep single market, gets a vote upswing.

Go figure.

Corbyn's uplift in the votes was nothing to do with his Brexit stance and everything to do with his promised give-aways. It's the same old labour spending money they don't and would not have.

Keep believing the above though and the Lib Dums will be out of the picture for a few decades more.

mfin · June 2017

Rick Chasey wrote:

Spin it all you want coopster, soft brexit/non-brexit parties won the majority of the votes.

May calls a hard brexit, has the biggest lead loss in modern British politics.

Corbyn vows to keep single market, gets a vote upswing.

Go figure.

That's a conclusion formed of confirmation bias.

Whilst it could be true it is extremely far from likely and at most just a contributing factor.

I can't overstate how much I think you probably are overestimating the general public's understanding of the issues around brexit negotiations and the varying potential effects that follow.

mamba80 · June 2017

Coopster the 1st wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Corbyn vows to keep single market, gets a vote upswing.

Go figure.

Corbyn's uplift in the votes was nothing to do with his Brexit stance and everything to do with his promised give-aways. It's the same old labour spending money they don't and would not have.

Keep believing the above though and the Lib Dums will be out of the picture for a few decades more.

If folk wanted the brexit that you want, they d have voted tory in their droves, this is exactly what May was promising.....

you need to realise that the people who pay the bills in country voted to stay in the EU, people in poorer areas and less educated swung it for leave and you r a prime example of that, a nasty bitter bullying little englander.

Jez mon · June 2017

Coopster the 1st wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Corbyn vows to keep single market, gets a vote upswing.

Go figure.

Corbyn's uplift in the votes was nothing to do with his Brexit stance and everything to do with his promised give-aways. It's the same old labour spending money they don't and would not have.

Keep believing the above though and the Lib Dums will be out of the picture for a few decades more.

http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2016 ... -70-years/

coopster_the_1st · June 2017

Jez mon wrote:

Coopster the 1st wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Corbyn vows to keep single market, gets a vote upswing.

Go figure.

Corbyn's uplift in the votes was nothing to do with his Brexit stance and everything to do with his promised give-aways. It's the same old labour spending money they don't and would not have.

Keep believing the above though and the Lib Dums will be out of the picture for a few decades more.

http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2016 ... -70-years/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Murphy_(tax_campaigner)

Way too easy to shoot down your argument.

Read this and learn why Corbynomics will not work - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laffer_curve

rick_chasey · June 2017

mfin wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Spin it all you want coopster, soft brexit/non-brexit parties won the majority of the votes.

May calls a hard brexit, has the biggest lead loss in modern British politics.

Corbyn vows to keep single market, gets a vote upswing.

Go figure.

That's a conclusion formed of confirmation bias.

Whilst it could be true it is extremely far from likely and at most just a contributing factor.

I can't overstate how much I think you probably are overestimating the general public's understanding of the issues around brexit negotiations and the varying potential effects that follow.

Duh.

I'm applying coopster logic to the results

The same logic he and Brexiters used following the referendum.

Pay attention.

rick_chasey · June 2017

Also, why do people think young people, under 25, were so much more energised to turn out and vote?

I get the "they were promised no tuition fees" but anyone who is already voting age will still have to pay them regardless.

mfin · June 2017

Rick Chasey wrote:

mfin wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Spin it all you want coopster, soft brexit/non-brexit parties won the majority of the votes.

May calls a hard brexit, has the biggest lead loss in modern British politics.

Corbyn vows to keep single market, gets a vote upswing.

Go figure.

That's a conclusion formed of confirmation bias.

Whilst it could be true it is extremely far from likely and at most just a contributing factor.

I can't overstate how much I think you probably are overestimating the general public's understanding of the issues around brexit negotiations and the varying potential effects that follow.

Duh.

I'm applying coopster logic to the results

The same logic he and Brexiters used following the referendum.

Pay attention.

Ah ok, same point you're making then, fair enough.

mrfpb · June 2017

Rick Chasey wrote:

Also, why do people think young people, under 25, were so much more energised to turn out and vote?

I get the "they were promised no tuition fees" but anyone who is already voting age will still have to pay them regardless.

Personal theory based on no science whatsoever:

The frequency of polls, once a year nationally plus various locals, (and the major coverage of Trump/Clinton) has raised the issues of politics and kept it in the centre of young peoples minds. They were more primed and ready to engage this time around than they have been in previous 4-5 year cycles. It's actually the opposite of "Brenda from Bristol".

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