Paris Roubaix 2017 -*SPOILERS*

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  • the article don
    the article don Posts: 578
    GvA at 10/1 looks tasty surely, especially E/W? Got up off his ass with a big cut on his leg to drive it to the finish and snatch 2nd on the line. I'm plumping for that.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    the article don wrote:
    GvA at 10/1 looks tasty surely, especially E/W? Got up off his ass with a big cut on his leg to drive it to the finish and snatch 2nd on the line. I'm plumping for that.

    Only one podium in 2015 and no team apart from Oss.
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,547
    And a tactically conservative team too.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    the article don wrote:
    GvA at 10/1 looks tasty surely, especially E/W? Got up off his ass with a big cut on his leg to drive it to the finish and snatch 2nd on the line. I'm plumping for that.

    Only one podium in 2015 and no team apart from Oss.

    Martin Elmiger was 5th in the same year.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Exactly.

    He's too small for PR.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,649
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Exactly.

    He's too small for PR.

    His back shape is OK though, isn't it?
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Exactly.

    He's too small for PR.

    His back shape is OK though, isn't it?

    Position on the bike? Yes.
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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    Is he that small - he's not tiny is he - wiki has him at 72kg.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    DeVlaeminck wrote:
    Is he that small - he's not tiny is he - wiki has him at 72kg.
    Comparable to O'Grady, van Petegem and Flecha
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  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    DeVlaeminck wrote:
    Is he that small - he's not tiny is he - wiki has him at 72kg.

    He's not tiny compared to, say, a stage racer, but he is smaller than most Paris Roubaix winners.

    I don't think he has the absolute power numbers to match the likes of Boonen, Sagan, Vanmarcke, Stannard etc.

    Then again Roubaix is about luck as well as talent. He could find himself in a small group near the end and he has been sprinting brilliantly this year.
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    dish_dash wrote:
    For the Cannondale fans, the word was that Phinney had minor concussion after his spill at RVV but that he might make it to PR. So that could be your great hope! :D

    No need to chill anything with bubbles then :D
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,547
    Vanmarcke confirmed as a non starter.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Always remember - it's more likely you rider will crash than win.
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,887
    andyp wrote:
    Vanmarcke confirmed as a non starter.

    Not happy.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,887
    Lars Boom offers some good odds especially as the best cobbled riders are now either retired (Cancellara), out (Vanmarcke) or old (Tommeke)
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    TheBigBean wrote:
    Lars Boom offers some good odds especially as the best cobbled riders are now either retired (Cancellara), out (Vanmarcke) or old (Tommeke)

    He couldn't finish ahead of Bram in Flanders however.
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,887
    That's my only concern. I was hoping someone might know why. It's his worst finish at Flanders.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Baaaad form.
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  • okgo
    okgo Posts: 4,368
    Sagan weighs sub 75kg apparently. Geraint Thomas has always been able to live with most of the hard stuff at under 70kg. Not sure weight alone means much.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Hayman: 78kg
    Degenkolb: 79kg
    Terpstra: 75kg
    Cancellara: 81kg
    Boonen: 82 kilos
    O'Grady: 71Kg (but let's face it, that was a ridiculous edition and he was NOT the strongest on the day).
    vansummeren: 76 kilos
    Backstedt: 94 kilos.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    okgo wrote:
    Sagan weighs sub 75kg apparently. Geraint Thomas has always been able to live with most of the hard stuff at under 70kg. Not sure weight alone means much.
    I mentioned a few names up the thread. (Wikipedia weights)

    O'Grady 71kg
    Van Petegem 70kg
    Flecha 72kg

    (And O'Grady's was great edition - riders all over the place and nobody really knew what was going on half the time)
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    RichN95 wrote:
    okgo wrote:
    Sagan weighs sub 75kg apparently. Geraint Thomas has always been able to live with most of the hard stuff at under 70kg. Not sure weight alone means much.
    I mentioned a few names up the thread. (Wikipedia weights)

    O'Grady 71kg
    Van Petegem 70kg
    Flecha 72kg

    (And O'Grady's was great edition - riders all over the place and nobody really knew what was going on half the time)

    Only one of those is an A lister Roubaix rider. (albeit the lightest).
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  • okgo
    okgo Posts: 4,368
    Weight doesn't = watts always, Rick.
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  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,820
    This edition is genuinely wide open, perhaps more than Flanders was.

    As the 3 main favourites from Flanders are either not riding or not suited to the Roubaix cobbles
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,820
    Forgot to add above, weather will be similar to 2007, high pressure and not much wind, and it has been mainly dry for the last week in Northern France

    Also, 5 pages of preview and we're still 4 days away!
  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    Bets are on:

    e/w on Rowe at 33/1
    e/w on Stybar at 22/1

    and a free £5 on Boonen at 5/1
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    okgo wrote:
    Weight doesn't = watts always, Rick.


    Natch but Greg isn't well suited to Roubaix compared to Flanders and he himself says he is 5 kilos too light for Roubaix
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  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    okgo wrote:
    Weight doesn't = watts always, Rick.

    No, doesn't always you're right. But there is a pretty high correlation.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    okgo wrote:
    Sagan weighs sub 75kg apparently. Geraint Thomas has always been able to live with most of the hard stuff at under 70kg. Not sure weight alone means much.
    I mentioned a few names up the thread. (Wikipedia weights)

    O'Grady 71kg
    Van Petegem 70kg
    Flecha 72kg

    (And O'Grady's was great edition - riders all over the place and nobody really knew what was going on half the time)

    Only one of those is an A lister Roubaix rider. (albeit the lightest).
    We're not looking at A lister status - just the potential to win. Two of them did and the other was in the top four on five occasions.
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