Milan San Remo 2017 - Spoilers

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  • AK_jnr
    AK_jnr Posts: 717
    edited March 2017
    When I looked earlier it was from his PM and his data wasnt blocked for once. With that huge effort for the last few minutes I would say it was no way 'only' 450 ish.

    Edit. Saying that though. Just checked all the others riders with genuine power data and they were all around 440/450 without that huge jump of the top 3.
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,332
    Pross wrote:
    The cynic in me thinks Bertie realises he's not going to win much more and so has decided to try to be a crowd pleaser instead.

    My take is that Bertie's realised that he won't win much, so is taking a few more risks to see what happens. I suspect part of the appeal for him is that he gets to race, rather than calculate.

    Meanwhile, the whole wattage thing depresses me. The sensitivity to the assumptions made seems to me to invalidate the whole thing, and that's before you consider whether we have a sensible handle on what 'normal' really is. Back in the days of ridiculous doping extraordinary performances happened regularly. Three riders getting just about enough of a break that they can contest the sprint but can't mess about because the remains of the peloton are visible within shot is not extraordinary.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    ellerslierd wrote:
    imatfaal wrote:

    https://www.strava.com/segments/11261020 now that's a KOM to be pretty proud of :-)

    Shows how flat out Dumoulin/sky were riding... or that the fact there was no let up in the pace is unusual

    Thanks for posting the reality - that it was the monster that is Tom Dumolin that pulled everyone up the Poggio - to the point where the "obviously doping Sky rider" couldnt hold the wheel

    As I tweeted at the time, Dumolin could co-star with Emma Watson as both Prince and Beast!
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • topper_harley
    topper_harley Posts: 597
    I did find it funny when big Tom D was pulling on the front and it did look like he was putting a effort in, and yet you looked at DVP just behind him and his face looked all calm, riding at a nice pace that suited Viviani.
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    Topper harley wrote:
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    That 446 watts is that someone's average for the last climb?
    I'm sure you already know the answer to that

    Errr no which is why I asked.

    Having read below that it is the last climb then I think it's not so high. Based on my own feeble efforts even I can hold 350 watts for 5 mins. Oddly only on a hill of just steep enough but not too steep.
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    More importantly what a great finale!
  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    underlayunderlay wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    The cynic in me thinks Bertie realises he's not going to win much more and so has decided to try to be a crowd pleaser instead.

    My take is that Bertie's realised that he won't win much, so is taking a few more risks to see what happens. I suspect part of the appeal for him is that he gets to race, rather than calculate.

    Meanwhile, the whole wattage thing depresses me. The sensitivity to the assumptions made seems to me to invalidate the whole thing, and that's before you consider whether we have a sensible handle on what 'normal' really is. Back in the days of ridiculous doping extraordinary performances happened regularly. Three riders getting just about enough of a break that they can contest the sprint but can't mess about because the remains of the peloton are visible within shot is not extraordinary.


    Try not to let it bug you. It used to make me fed up, now it washes over me like water off a duck's bum
  • mamil314
    mamil314 Posts: 1,103
    How long before Tom D is in black and blue.
  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    mamil314 wrote:
    How long before Tom D is in black and blue.



    Given his comments late last year, how about never
  • topper_harley
    topper_harley Posts: 597
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    Topper harley wrote:
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    That 446 watts is that someone's average for the last climb?
    I'm sure you already know the answer to that

    Errr no which is why I asked.

    Having read below that it is the last climb then I think it's not so high. Based on my own feeble efforts even I can hold 350 watts for 5 mins. Oddly only on a hill of just steep enough but not too steep.
    is the answer "jiffy bag"
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    didn't have internet access to comment at the time but managed to watch it with the parentals.

    race didn't really get going until the Poggio and by then Cav was already out the back. Great move by Sagan and showed how strong a rider he is. Can fuly understand the others making him do more of the work in the break, he still only missed out by inches.

    Always like Kwia too so not too disappointed he got the win.

    Unfortunately i'm working away for the next two weeks so going to be RvD and Roubaix :-(
  • graeme_s-2
    graeme_s-2 Posts: 3,382
    Cosmo's typically great highlights/analysis

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InsMDJtPctY
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    So caught up with the race last night and you folks only now.

    To Blazing'ss point - until Sagan attacked it really was pretty boring. Lacked the mad dashes off the front of earlier years.

    My man Skujins in the break (and live tweeting as he went) with my man, the little flower, taking the win. C'mere Kwia, signing for Sky and the meh season are all forgotten!
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    dish_dash wrote:
    So caught up with the race last night and you folks only now.

    To Blazing'ss point - until Sagan attacked it really was pretty boring. Lacked the mad dashes off the front of earlier years.

    My man Skujins in the break (and live tweeting as he went) with my man, the little flower, taking the win. C'mere Kwia, signing for Sky and the meh season are all forgotten!

    Can blame your man Dumolin for making it boring.

    IMO.
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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Also a distinct lack of photos...

    My man Skujins leading the race...
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    The moment
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    Sagan just goes all balls out... Alaphilippe's helmet looks shoot on his wee shaved head... needs to sort it out if he is going to be a true champion...
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    The photo that goes into the history books
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    I'm astonished that no one has mentioned the abomination on Sagan's face...
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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    dish_dash wrote:
    So caught up with the race last night and you folks only now.

    To Blazing'ss point - until Sagan attacked it really was pretty boring. Lacked the mad dashes off the front of earlier years.

    My man Skujins in the break (and live tweeting as he went) with my man, the little flower, taking the win. C'mere Kwia, signing for Sky and the meh season are all forgotten!

    Can blame your man Dumolin for making it boring.

    IMO.

    Ja ja... but we'd had folks pinging off the front before the Poggio... Oss in previous years I recall...
  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    Graeme_S wrote:
    Cosmo's typically great highlights/analysis

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InsMDJtPctY


    RE Sky taking over from Dumo on the Poggio '...under Sky's marginally less psychotic tempo...' :D
  • mamil314
    mamil314 Posts: 1,103
    Richmond Racer 2 wrote:
    mamil314 wrote:
    How long before Tom D is in black and blue.



    Given his comments late last year, how about never

    Do you have any link handy? If not, i will search after work, i've not been following much. Was kind of suspecting Brailsford eyeing him to replace Froome after interview with them post some tdf stage last year.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,143
    mamil314 wrote:
    Richmond Racer 2 wrote:
    mamil314 wrote:
    How long before Tom D is in black and blue.



    Given his comments late last year, how about never

    Do you have any link handy? If not, i will search after work, i've not been following much. Was kind of suspecting Brailsford eyeing him to replace Froome after interview with them post some tdf stage last year.

    "Het is erg raar dat Wiggins telkens in dezelfde periode die medicatie nam. En inspuiten? Dan heb je dus heel erge astma, zoiets doen ze bij normale astmapatiënten al niet", aldus Dumoulin.

    "Laat staan bij sporters die alleen maar inspanningsastma hebben. Blijkbaar werkte die spuit van Wiggins ook nog eens wekenlang... Dan moet je wat mij betreft weken uit competitie. Dat zaakje stinkt."
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
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  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    Rick Chasey wrote:
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    very good photo. No Canc or Boonen next year, going to be really different without those two
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    White shoes white socks #justsaying.
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  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    White shoes white socks #justsaying.

    is the gold lettering on the frame just for Boonen ?

    Black socks should be banned by the UCI.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNsPOrPBpWM for those who like it retro.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    White shoes white socks #justsaying.

    So... I buy this rule if it is only applicable to pros. It is thoroughly impractical for those of us that have to ride through UK crap covered roads and clean all our own kit. Much the same as the disc brake debate. Disc brakes work great for us casual riders, but can see why not for pros. No need for one size fits all..
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    dish_dash wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    White shoes white socks #justsaying.

    So... I buy this rule if it is only applicable to pros. It is thoroughly impractical for those of us that have to ride through UK crap covered roads and clean all our own kit. Much the same as the disc brake debate. Disc brakes work great for us casual riders, but can see why not for pros. No need for one size fits all..

    Fair fair.

    I wore non-white socks when we rode in the rain.

    Still, something to aspire to, right? ;)
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Keep an eye on Sagan's cadence this year.

    To me it seems a bit faster than it used to be, especially in the attack.

    We know who famously made that change halfway through his career.....
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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    :D:wink:

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