CMS hearings into the alleged culture of doping and bullying at British Cycling

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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    I don't know where British Cycling goes from here, but the new pursuit line-up is looking a bit ropey

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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    Just flipping through the TV channels and settling on Soccer AM on Sky, and who should be on but Bradley Wiggins. They briefly touched on the current issues and he said once the investigation process is over he will have his say and he 'has lots to say and it will shock some people'. Not sure what that means.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,701
    RichN95 wrote:
    I don't know where British Cycling goes from here, but the new pursuit line-up is looking a bit ropey

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    Nice to see Ed supporting BC's action plan initiative by modelling the new team colours.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,153
    RichN95 wrote:
    Just flipping through the TV channels and settling on Soccer AM on Sky, and who should be on but Bradley Wiggins. They briefly touched on the current issues and he said once the investigation process is over he will have his say and he 'has lots to say and it will shock some people'. Not sure what that means.

    I suspect it will be entertaining and involve colourful language with references to a certain newspaper.
  • top_bhoy
    top_bhoy Posts: 1,424
    Pross wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Just flipping through the TV channels and settling on Soccer AM on Sky, and who should be on but Bradley Wiggins. They briefly touched on the current issues and he said once the investigation process is over he will have his say and he 'has lots to say and it will shock some people'. Not sure what that means.

    I suspect it will be entertaining and involve colourful language with references to a certain newspaper.

    Has Wiggins been interviewed by the CMS yet and if not, why not? If he has that much to say then the CMS should get him in.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,701
    Top_Bhoy wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Just flipping through the TV channels and settling on Soccer AM on Sky, and who should be on but Bradley Wiggins. They briefly touched on the current issues and he said once the investigation process is over he will have his say and he 'has lots to say and it will shock some people'. Not sure what that means.

    I suspect it will be entertaining and involve colourful language with references to a certain newspaper.

    Has Wiggins been interviewed by the CMS yet and if not, why not? If he has that much to say then the CMS should get him in.

    That's a question for the CMS to answer, seeing they didn't consider his attendance necessary.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    Top_Bhoy wrote:
    Has Wiggins been interviewed by the CMS yet and if not, why not? If he has that much to say then the CMS should get him in.
    The MPs have said they won't be asking him to appear. My guess is that Collins thinks BW is too popular with the public and it won't be good for his (Collins) profile/career - which is largely what select commitees are for.
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  • spam02
    spam02 Posts: 178
    RichN95 wrote:
    I don't know where British Cycling goes from here, but the new pursuit line-up is looking a bit ropey

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    BC doing everything they can to quash the ageism accusations.
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,455
    Is that shirt/tie combo a thing?
    PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 2023
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,153
    M.R.M. wrote:
    Is that shirt/tie combo a thing?

    That shirt's not even been a thing with a black tie for at least 20 years!
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,529
    Wiggins on marginal gains accordingly to Cycling News.
    "I think it’s a load of rubbish, if I'm honest. I do," he said, according to Eurosport. "A lot of people made a lot of money out of it and David Brailsford used it constantly as his calling card. But I always thought it was a load of rubbish.

    "It's a bit like the whole chimp thing,"
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,031
    SPaM02 wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    I don't know where British Cycling goes from here, but the new pursuit line-up is looking a bit ropey

    C7s79ZdXwAAPgb9.jpg

    BC doing everything they can to quash the ageism accusations.

    Stella McCartney has outdone herself this time.
    [Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,031
    Pross wrote:
    Wendy H also went on a tear to the press after the London Olympics about Trott, King and Roswell having been 'immature' and all Mean Girl on her. Turned out that was actually about them not having flocked around her, crying with her over her non-selection.

    ''Twas a tad desparate IMO

    Is it acceptable for senior riders to routinely refer to the female colleagues as mean girls? :P


    No it's not acceptable for senior riders to bully younger riders - if true the senior management that allowed a culture like that to exist should be sacked. :|

    I assume you're being sarcastic and don't genuinely think that BC management can be held responsible for the behaviour and words of every cyclists in their squads let alone one who is pretty much an ex-rider? Then again given that the current trend seems to be blame for everything they do, did and don't do who knows?

    It was a joke but I was just reading in the Guardian that a culture of bullying was a finding of the 2012 internal report but one which they didn't mention to UK Sport - so with a serious hat on it does seem that the management should take some responsibility for not taking bullying seriously enough.
    [Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,535
    Are those pikes UCI legal? And will the Secret Squirrel club let the French believe the blades are sharper?
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,310
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39406068

    "A coroner in Northern Ireland has called for tramadol to be made a Class A drug."
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • bartman100
    bartman100 Posts: 544
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39406068

    "A coroner in Northern Ireland has called for tramadol to be made a Class A drug."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcrLSSlNZGs
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,310
    bartman100 wrote:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39406068

    "A coroner in Northern Ireland has called for tramadol to be made a Class A drug."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcrLSSlNZGs

    Nope. No idea what you're trying to say. I get a sense that you're in some way mocking me or what I've posted but your point is lost.
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • pedro118118
    pedro118118 Posts: 1,102
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39406068

    "A coroner in Northern Ireland has called for tramadol to be made a Class A drug."

    And?
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    Latest story on this is here from the BBC

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/39411057

    Once again the MPs say there are questions to be answered etc. Surely the fact that the procedures have changed since then answers all their questions. They found out the process didn't work and amended it. That's generally how things improve
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,644
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39406068

    "A coroner in Northern Ireland has called for tramadol to be made a Class A drug."

    When I broke my arm playing basketball in an NYC pickup game (yes yes) they prescribed me what turned out to be vicodin which, while legal in the US, was very much a class A in the UK.

    The main reason behind such legislation is more about the type of prescription addiction that, certainly in poorer communities anyway, can be a gateway to heroin abuse as the money & access to the opioid pharmaceuticals runs out.
  • spam02
    spam02 Posts: 178
    sherer wrote:
    Latest story on this is here from the BBC

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/39411057

    Once again the MPs say there are questions to be answered etc. Surely the fact that the procedures have changed since then answers all their questions. They found out the process didn't work and amended it. That's generally how things improve

    It'd like Groundhog Day. There's nothing new in that article - so no doubt Roan will be all over it like a rash.

    Until the UKAD Report is published there is nothing more to add.

    On an unrelated note, I see the DM have done themselves proud with their 'Leg's-it' Headline. What a scummy rag that really is.
  • Bill Murray should be fronting this
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,701
    edited March 2017
    sherer wrote:
    Latest story on this is here from the BBC

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/39411057

    Once again the MPs say there are questions to be answered etc. Surely the fact that the procedures have changed since then answers all their questions. They found out the process didn't work and amended it. That's generally how things improve

    Damian Collins says that when a cycling team has administrative paperwork missing, major questions need to to answered, but when his Conservative party treasury claims it has no paperwork for 100k of undeclared funds, there is nothing to see.

    The hypocrisy is as staggering as it is predictable.
    And on the subject of staggering hypocrisy.....
    SPaM02 wrote:

    On an unrelated note, I see the DM have done themselves proud with their 'Leg's-it' Headline. What a scummy rag that really is.

    Not bad effort from the self proclaimed champions against sexism. :roll:
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,529
    When I broke my arm playing basketball in an NYC pickup game (yes yes) they prescribed me what turned out to be vicodin which, while legal in the US, was very much a class A in the UK.
    Any viewer of House could tell you a lot about it.
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    sherer wrote:
    Latest story on this is here from the BBC

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/39411057

    Once again the MPs say there are questions to be answered etc. Surely the fact that the procedures have changed since then answers all their questions. They found out the process didn't work and amended it. That's generally how things improve

    Damian Collins says that when a cycling team has administrative paperwork missing, major questions need to to answered, but when his Conservative party treasury claims it has no paperwork for 100k of undeclared funds, there is nothing to see.

    The hypocrisy is as staggering as it is predictable.
    And on the subject of staggering hypocrisy.....
    SPaM02 wrote:

    On an unrelated note, I see the DM have done themselves proud with their 'Leg's-it' Headline. What a scummy rag that really is.

    Not bad effort from the self proclaimed champions of sexism. :roll:
    typical double standards from the MPs. There's no questions to be answered. They had a rbbish system, found out it was a total shambles, then put a new system in place. What more can they answer other than we have no proof as the system wasn't very good at the time.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    The biggest question for me is - how much tax payer's money has so far been spent to find out a doctor can't use dropbox


    Collins's next big project is tackling 'fake news'. I imagine he'll end up questioning the accuracy of the weather forecast (he's already said he won't be looking at national newspapers)
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  • chuuurles
    chuuurles Posts: 14
    why r u guys attacking the people who are attempting to clean up cycling ?
  • cruff
    cruff Posts: 1,518
    chuuurles wrote:
    why r u guys attacking the people who are attempting to clean up cycling ?

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  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    chuuurles wrote:
    why r u guys attacking the people who are attempting to clean up cycling ?
    They aren't, they are just trying to raise their own profile. Note BW hasn't been called yet, nor any other rider.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    chuuurles wrote:
    why r u guys attacking the people who are attempting to clean up cycling ?
    Who are these people? Damien Collins certainly isn't one.
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