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CMS hearings into the alleged culture of doping and bullying at British Cycling

weekendcyclingfanweekendcyclingfan Posts: 980
edited July 2019 in Pro race
Freeman, man at centre of UKAD investigation into allegations of wrongdoing in cycling, says too unwell to attend

This can't be food. Looks like a cover up to me. For something so simple like a decongestant Sky/BC are going to extraordinary lengths to not talk.

What do you guys think?
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  • fenixfenix Posts: 5,437
    HOW many posts ? All banging on about the same stuff.

    Do you even cycle ?
  • The Kennington KaiserThe Kennington Kaiser Posts: 406
    Oh, god. Can't you give it a 'kin rest?
  • The Kennington KaiserThe Kennington Kaiser Posts: 406
    The Kennington Kaiser wrote:
    Oh, god. Can't you give it a 'kin rest?

    That wasn't aimed at you, Fenix.....
  • RichjRichj Posts: 240
    He might be ill he might not, I have no idea.

    Not 100% sure what he would have added that has not already been said many times and suspect if his version of events wasn't going to differ with what is already known. If he was I think it would come out in the UKAD report.

    Be interesting to see what comes out tomorrow.
  • ddraverddraver Posts: 25,591
    FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP REPLYING!!!

    THIS IS KILLING THE FORUM

    NO, NOT WCF, ALL OF THE REST OF YOU

    JUST!

    STOP!
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • weekendcyclingfanweekendcyclingfan Posts: 980
    ddraver wrote:
    FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP REPLYING!!!

    THIS IS KILLING THE FORUM

    NO, NOT WCF, ALL OF THE REST OF YOU

    JUST!

    STOP!

    ?? I was asked to create a thread. News developed today of Freeman's withdrawal. Are we not to discuss it?
  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 20,675
    Fenix wrote:
    HOW many posts ? All banging on about the same stuff.

    Do you even cycle ?

    No, he just recycles.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • weekendcyclingfanweekendcyclingfan Posts: 980
    Richj wrote:
    He might be ill he might not, I have no idea.

    Not 100% sure what he would have added that has not already been said many times and suspect if his version of events wasn't going to differ with what is already known. If he was I think it would come out in the UKAD report.

    Be interesting to see what comes out tomorrow.

    It's not about "adding" but it's about the collection and collating of evidence. That is a very important part of parliament select committees.
  • weekendcyclingfanweekendcyclingfan Posts: 980
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Fenix wrote:
    HOW many posts ? All banging on about the same stuff.

    Do you even cycle ?

    No, he just recycles.

    Always getting personal. Perhaps discuss today's events on Freeman?

    For the record, I do cycle, it's a very enjoyable sport.
  • yorkshirerawyorkshireraw Posts: 1,626
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Fenix wrote:
    HOW many posts ? All banging on about the same stuff.

    Do you even cycle ?

    No, he just recycles.

    As you've already had a Hat today you can have a special Hat for that, just to wear at weekends...
  • weekendcyclingfanweekendcyclingfan Posts: 980
    Fenix wrote:
    HOW many posts ? All banging on about the same stuff.

    Do you even cycle ?

    It's not the same stuff. Freeman (chicken wings) withdraw from the CMS beating in unusual circumstances. That is news. Why it discuss it? If you want to discuss racing, go to the face thread.
  • fenixfenix Posts: 5,437
    Chicken Wings ? What does that mean ? Is that something about Freeman when you've told someone else off for getting personal about you ?

    A thread about a bloke who may or may not have the flu or something. It's hardly vital is it ?
  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 23,994
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    Conflict of interest.
  • Rodrego HernandezRodrego Hernandez Posts: 1,436
    I assume that this is a completely different hearing to the one that is due to sit tomorrow? That one is looking at doping in sport.
  • weekendcyclingfanweekendcyclingfan Posts: 980
    Fenix wrote:
    Chicken Wings ? What does that mean ? Is that something about Freeman when you've told someone else off for getting personal about you ?

    A thread about a bloke who may or may not have the flu or something. It's hardly vital is it ?

    Tomorrow we await more information. UKADs findings will be interesting, like Rich, I await their conclusions.

    It is rather bizarre Freeman is a no-show though. Dumped it all onto the fallguy in Cope. Funny how these so called heros like Wiggins, Freeman and Brailsford let others take the fall.
  • weekendcyclingfanweekendcyclingfan Posts: 980
    The plot thickens on Freeman, I sense this will end up going towards criminal proceedings, would not be surprised to see a police raid on Manchester Velodrome in the coming days as well.
    @CommonsCMS committee have asked @TeamSky doctor Roger Freeman to provide written evidence after pulling out of hearing tomorrow
  • letap73letap73 Posts: 1,608
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    What do you guys think?

    I think you misunderstood your therapist when they encouraged you to "mass debate" to relieve tensions - I do not think they mean't you to troll post pro race - there is a website for you which begins with p and ends with hub - hope that helps.
  • gweedsgweeds Posts: 2,471
    Yeah - you definitely needed to start yet another sodding thread.
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • top_bhoytop_bhoy Posts: 1,424
    Whatever the sequence of events or the results, I don't think its a good look right now for the doctor, Sky or British Cycling.

    The Dr may well be genuinely ill but it surely shouldn't have been this hard (or lengthy) to verify to the CMS the contents of a package containing medical supplies being transported across different European countries.

    I hope everyone involved has their TUE in order. :D
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  • weekendcyclingfanweekendcyclingfan Posts: 980
    Top_Bhoy wrote:
    Whatever the sequence of events or the results, I don't think its a good look right now for the doctor, Sky or British Cycling.

    The Dr may well be genuinely ill but it surely shouldn't have been this hard (or lengthy) to verify to the CMS the contents of a package containing medical supplies being transported across different European countries.

    I hope everyone involved has their TUE in order. :D

    It hasn't looked good from the beginning. On what should have been a relative quick response to a fairly simple situation has just mounted and mounted into a bigger and bigger story mainly because no one would really take ownership. I honestly feel for Cope. He shouldn't have to be the person defending what occurred at a CMS hearing. Regardless of what he knows, kudos to him for not taking the easy option like Freeman.

    Whether Wiggins doped or now secondary to how utterly spineless he has become. Weak and sneaky comes to mind. I hope he gets the balls to admit what he did, doubtful though.
  • letap73letap73 Posts: 1,608
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    Top_Bhoy wrote:
    Whatever the sequence of events or the results, I don't think its a good look right now for the doctor, Sky or British Cycling.

    The Dr may well be genuinely ill but it surely shouldn't have been this hard (or lengthy) to verify to the CMS the contents of a package containing medical supplies being transported across different European countries.

    I hope everyone involved has their TUE in order. :D

    It hasn't looked good from the beginning. On what should have been a relative quick response to a fairly simple situation has just mounted and mounted into a bigger and bigger story mainly because no one would really take ownership. I honestly feel for Cope. He shouldn't have to be the person defending what occurred at a CMS hearing. Regardless of what he knows, kudos to him for not taking the easy option like Freeman.

    Whether Wiggins doped or now secondary to how utterly spineless he has become. Weak and sneaky comes to mind. I hope he gets the balls to admit what he did, doubtful though.

    Wiggins 5 olympic gold medals, Tour de France winner, World champion many times over. Weak and sneaky doesn't quite fit here does it. Weak and sneaky however may be the appropriate adjectives to fit to a cowardly troll poster.
  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 10,630
    If this b*llocks ruins the whole classics season I'll be annoyed - circular doping threads are for the off season!!

    Still, at least WCF had the decency to put "alleged" into the topic title.

    For the record, yes I agree it is a poor choice of timing to get sick on Dr Freeman's part.
  • tim000tim000 Posts: 718
    if only we could choose when we are ill .wouldn`t life be great .
  • weekendcyclingfanweekendcyclingfan Posts: 980
    tim000 wrote:
    if only we could choose when we are ill .wouldn`t life be great .

    True, Wiggins always fell ill just before the Tour and one Giro so he could be injected with kenacort and Freeman coincidentally falls ill the day before the CMS hearing to not provide evidence.

    Completely normal in the world of Sky, British Cycling and Unicorns (no offense to unicorns intended).

    8)
  • orraloonorraloon Posts: 11,694
    "What a strange person". (Sir Galahad, 1975)
  • weekendcyclingfanweekendcyclingfan Posts: 980
    And if it coudnt get any worse for British Cycling -
    British cycling accused of blocking release of Jess Varnish's case files
    Lawyers acting for former Great Britain track rider Jess Varnish have accused British Cycling of withholding information relating to her removal from the Olympic programme and the investigation into her bullying complaint against ex-technical director Shane Sutton.

    In December, the sprinter's lawyers sent a 'subject access request' to the governing body for her performance data, medical records and all emails and text messages sent by senior staff in the GB set-up about her.

    Simon Fenton, an employment specialist at law firm Irwin Mitchell, said British Cycling's response to this request is at odds with the new approach to athlete welfare it is scheduled to announce at the National Cycling Centre on Thursday.
  • Vino'sGhostVino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    it doesnt really matter what happened, it only really matters what can be proved happened. The rest can be ridden out.
  • weekendcyclingfanweekendcyclingfan Posts: 980
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    it doesnt really matter what happened, it only really matters what can be proved happened. The rest can be ridden out.

    Got to feel for British Cycling as they have to pacify Sutton whilst not giving Varnish the ammunition.
  • jimmythecuckoojimmythecuckoo Posts: 4,678
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    ?? I was asked to create a thread.


    You were asked to create a thread on it ?

    This is as big a scandal as TUE's?

    [*]Who asked you to "Create a thread"?
    [*]Why were the other threads not deemed acceptable to discuss Freeman's non-appearance in?
    [*]Did the closure of a number of other threads on this self same topic not make you wonder if creating another one might not be the right thing to do?
    [*]How many other threads and posts from you have been driven by someone else telling you to post?
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  • bompingtonbompington Posts: 7,674
    jimmythecuckoo wrote:
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    ?? I was asked to create a thread.


    You were asked to create a thread on it ?
    By "the voices", I suspect
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