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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398

    The counter argument will be than the UK had far more Russian money to put the freeze on!

    I'd be interested to see the data on that, but if we have 7-8 times more Russian cash than the entire EU then maybe it is proportionate. Quick Google shows there is over €25bn in Cyprus alone.

    Anyhow, well done us.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    Stevo_666 said:

    The counter argument will be than the UK had far more Russian money to put the freeze on!

    I'd be interested to see the data on that, but if we have 7-8 times more Russian cash than the entire EU then maybe it is proportionate. Quick Google shows there is over €25bn in Cyprus alone.

    Anyhow, well done us.

    Like I said to Bean, surely you know the narrative on here by now Stevo? ;)
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398

    Stevo_666 said:

    The counter argument will be than the UK had far more Russian money to put the freeze on!

    I'd be interested to see the data on that, but if we have 7-8 times more Russian cash than the entire EU then maybe it is proportionate. Quick Google shows there is over €25bn in Cyprus alone.

    Anyhow, well done us.

    Like I said to Bean, surely you know the narrative on here by now Stevo? ;)
    But but but, it's the nasty Torwies, they can't be doing anything good :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    The counter argument will be than the UK had far more Russian money to put the freeze on!

    this.

    The Tory party has prostituted themselves to the Russian pimp for the political financial equivalent of a £20 bliwie in alleyway and unfortunately, as can be seen from tge last election, the majority of the popularion are too blinkered to see this.

    on a geo political level De Pffeffel and his bunch or toadyers are as culpable as Putin for allowing Russia to spread its tentacles.

    #Toryscum
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    The counter argument will be than the UK had far more Russian money to put the freeze on!

    this.

    considering central London is essentially owned by Russians or Russian friendly countries means that there is a hell of a lot of cash and assets sitting there.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Stevo_666 said:

    Interesting fact on which country has frozen the most Russian bank assets to date:
    https://telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/03/05/britain-freezes-russian-bank-assets-country-world/

    Quote:
    "Britain has frozen more Russian bank assets than any other country as part of the international wave of sanctions against Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, ministers have said.

    The Foreign Office revealed the UK had frozen a total of £258.8 billion of bank assets, compared to £240 billion by the US and £33.8 billion by the EU."


    Not sure where this rhetoric comes from that we aren't pulling our weight in this area.

    perhaps they could also return all the Russian money they took as donations

    #Toryscum
    #fucktheToried
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    MattFalle said:

    The counter argument will be than the UK had far more Russian money to put the freeze on!

    this.

    The Tory party has prostituted themselves to the Russian pimp for the political financial equivalent of a £20 bliwie in alleyway and unfortunately, as can be seen from tge last election, the majority of the popularion are too blinkered to see this.

    on a geo political level De Pffeffel and his bunch or toadyers are as culpable as Putin for allowing Russia to spread its tentacles.

    #Toryscum
    Ah yes, the last election. The choice was between the Tories or Labour whose leader wanted the UK to withdraw from NATO. From your post, I assume you wish that Labour had won.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    MattFalle said:

    The counter argument will be than the UK had far more Russian money to put the freeze on!

    this.

    The Tory party has prostituted themselves to the Russian pimp for the political financial equivalent of a £20 bliwie in alleyway and unfortunately, as can be seen from tge last election, the majority of the popularion are too blinkered to see this.

    on a geo political level De Pffeffel and his bunch or toadyers are as culpable as Putin for allowing Russia to spread its tentacles.

    #Toryscum
    Got any stats on the amounts? Mind you, I'm sure Rick is trawling trawling the internet to show that 7-8 time more bank assets frozen than the EU just isn't good enough :smile:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    MattFalle said:

    The counter argument will be than the UK had far more Russian money to put the freeze on!

    this.

    considering central London is essentially owned by Russians or Russian friendly countries means that there is a hell of a lot of cash and assets sitting there.
    How much?
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    MattFalle said:

    The counter argument will be than the UK had far more Russian money to put the freeze on!

    this.

    The Tory party has prostituted themselves to the Russian pimp for the political financial equivalent of a £20 bliwie in alleyway and unfortunately, as can be seen from tge last election, the majority of the popularion are too blinkered to see this.

    on a geo political level De Pffeffel and his bunch or toadyers are as culpable as Putin for allowing Russia to spread its tentacles.

    #Toryscum
    Ah yes, the last election. The choice was between the Tories or Labour whose leader wanted the UK to withdraw from NATO. From your post, I assume you wish that Labour had won.
    A proposed withdrawal from NATO that never, ever would have happened or a racist, spoilt, corrupt, adulterer liar who was determined to force through a racist short sighted policy to withbraw Britain from the largest trading partnership in order that he and his cronies could make a shedload of cash?

    And yeah, Labour couldn't have done worse than this bunch of inbreds.

    #fucktheTories
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    Let's ask the question another way: who is doing Russian financial interests the most damage on this front?
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    The counter argument will be than the UK had far more Russian money to put the freeze on!

    this.

    The Tory party has prostituted themselves to the Russian pimp for the political financial equivalent of a £20 bliwie in alleyway and unfortunately, as can be seen from tge last election, the majority of the popularion are too blinkered to see this.

    on a geo political level De Pffeffel and his bunch or toadyers are as culpable as Putin for allowing Russia to spread its tentacles.

    #Toryscum
    Ah yes, the last election. The choice was between the Tories or Labour whose leader wanted the UK to withdraw from NATO. From your post, I assume you wish that Labour had won.
    A proposed withdrawal from NATO that never, ever would have happened or a racist, spoilt, corrupt, adulterer liar who was determined to force through a racist short sighted policy to withbraw Britain from the largest trading partnership in order that he and his cronies could make a shedload of cash?

    And yeah, Labour couldn't have done worse than this bunch of inbreds.

    #fucktheTories
    If Corbyn had been in office, he'd probably be having a whip round for Putin.

    Put a hashtag on that...
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    Stevo_666 said:

    MattFalle said:

    The counter argument will be than the UK had far more Russian money to put the freeze on!

    this.

    The Tory party has prostituted themselves to the Russian pimp for the political financial equivalent of a £20 bliwie in alleyway and unfortunately, as can be seen from tge last election, the majority of the popularion are too blinkered to see this.

    on a geo political level De Pffeffel and his bunch or toadyers are as culpable as Putin for allowing Russia to spread its tentacles.

    #Toryscum
    Got any stats on the amounts? Mind you, I'm sure Rick is trawling trawling the internet to show that 7-8 time more bank assets frozen than the EU just isn't good enough :smile:
    On the one hand we have the Russians singling out the UK for being the prime mover in applying and advocating sanctions against Russia and on the other hand we have Rick, saying that the UK effort is embarrassing.
    Who should we believe? Perhaps it's just that the Ruskies don't have access to Rick's Twatter feed?
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Stevo_666 said:

    MattFalle said:

    The counter argument will be than the UK had far more Russian money to put the freeze on!

    this.

    considering central London is essentially owned by Russians or Russian friendly countries means that there is a hell of a lot of cash and assets sitting there.
    How much?
    having a quick squiz but the first result I came across was, bizarrely, the South China Post, so won't anti Russian and they say £1.1 billion in London alone, 150,000 Russians living in London and this.


    https://amp.scmp.com/business/article/3168715/russians-own-about-us147-billion-property-london-government-moves-stamp


    Mate, your party has pimped its mouth and throat out for a quick buck.


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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398

    Stevo_666 said:

    MattFalle said:

    The counter argument will be than the UK had far more Russian money to put the freeze on!

    this.

    The Tory party has prostituted themselves to the Russian pimp for the political financial equivalent of a £20 bliwie in alleyway and unfortunately, as can be seen from tge last election, the majority of the popularion are too blinkered to see this.

    on a geo political level De Pffeffel and his bunch or toadyers are as culpable as Putin for allowing Russia to spread its tentacles.

    #Toryscum
    Got any stats on the amounts? Mind you, I'm sure Rick is trawling trawling the internet to show that 7-8 time more bank assets frozen than the EU just isn't good enough :smile:
    On the one hand we have the Russians singling out the UK for being the prime mover in applying and advocating sanctions against Russia and on the other hand we have Rick, saying that the UK effort is embarrassing.
    Who should we believe? Perhaps it's just that the Ruskies don't have access to Rick's Twatter feed?
    Lucky Russkies :D
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Stevo_666 said:

    Let's ask the question another way: who is doing Russian financial interests the most damage on this front?

    they own your political party and you seem proud of this.

    i find tgat quite strange.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    edited March 2022
    MattFalle said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Let's ask the question another way: who is doing Russian financial interests the most damage on this front?

    they own your political party and you seem proud of this.

    i find tgat quite strange.
    I don't think so.

    Look at the stats in the link above (and what Bally said about the Russians singling out the UK), but don't let that get in the way of a good rant ;)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Stevo_666 said:

    MattFalle said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Let's ask the question another way: who is doing Russian financial interests the most damage on this front?

    they own your political party and you seem proud of this.

    i find tgat quite strange.
    I don't think so.

    Look at the stats in the link above, but don't let them get in the way of a good rant ;)
    not a rant mate and you know it.

    and yes, they do. tennis and dinner anyone?

    tbh though, its a mixture of Russia owning your political and them hiding all their money in offshore companies a la reese - mogg.

    at least sunak is happy enough to rub people's noses in his wealth and doesn't try to hide being bribed like de pffeffel.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    MattFalle said:

    The counter argument will be than the UK had far more Russian money to put the freeze on!

    this.

    The Tory party has prostituted themselves to the Russian pimp for the political financial equivalent of a £20 bliwie in alleyway and unfortunately, as can be seen from tge last election, the majority of the popularion are too blinkered to see this.

    on a geo political level De Pffeffel and his bunch or toadyers are as culpable as Putin for allowing Russia to spread its tentacles.

    #Toryscum
    Got any stats on the amounts? Mind you, I'm sure Rick is trawling trawling the internet to show that 7-8 time more bank assets frozen than the EU just isn't good enough :smile:
    On the one hand we have the Russians singling out the UK for being the prime mover in applying and advocating sanctions against Russia and on the other hand we have Rick, saying that the UK effort is embarrassing.
    Who should we believe? Perhaps it's just that the Ruskies don't have access to Rick's Twatter feed?
    Lucky Russkies :D
    well if its from Rick's feed its all rumours, non?
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
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    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    The Intelligence and Security Committee report was critical of the govt approach to Russian influence in British politics. It found they had "actively avoided" looking for evidence of interference.

    I don't think there's much doubt that at the very least this govt has been slack in recognising the Russian threat.
    [Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    What's the source for the EU number? Does it include the central bank?

    And does the UK number include the bank we are giving 30 days grace to?
  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    The counter argument will be than the UK had far more Russian money to put the freeze on!

    this.

    The Tory party has prostituted themselves to the Russian pimp for the political financial equivalent of a £20 bliwie in alleyway and unfortunately, as can be seen from tge last election, the majority of the popularion are too blinkered to see this.

    on a geo political level De Pffeffel and his bunch or toadyers are as culpable as Putin for allowing Russia to spread its tentacles.

    #Toryscum
    Ah yes, the last election. The choice was between the Tories or Labour whose leader wanted the UK to withdraw from NATO. From your post, I assume you wish that Labour had won.
    A proposed withdrawal from NATO that never, ever would have happened or a racist, spoilt, corrupt, adulterer liar who was determined to force through a racist short sighted policy to withbraw Britain from the largest trading partnership in order that he and his cronies could make a shedload of cash?

    And yeah, Labour couldn't have done worse than this bunch of inbreds.

    #fucktheTories

    I’m neither a Brexit supporter nor a Tory party lover, but to add a layer of realism to this argument the PM, regardless of whether it was Boris or anyone else, had a duty to push Brexit through following the referendum result. I don’t like the Brexit outcome, but those of us that were remainers lost and we sadly have to suck it up. I also don’t see Brexit as being racist, but if you do that’s up to you.

    As for Labour at the last election, Corbyn was clearly Anti-NATO (he had been for decades) and not particularly pro-Europe either. He didn’t put any weight behind the Remain campaign and his party let him get away with it, which actively contributed to where we are today.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436

    On the one hand we have the Russians singling out the UK for being the prime mover in applying and advocating sanctions against Russia

    Interesting to note that Russia singled out Liz Truss as a "reason" for escalatory nuclear threats

    I'd suggest that singling out the UK isn't 'praise', it's strategy

    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    Stevo_666 said:

    Interesting fact on which country has frozen the most Russian bank assets to date:
    https://telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/03/05/britain-freezes-russian-bank-assets-country-world/

    Quote:
    "Britain has frozen more Russian bank assets than any other country as part of the international wave of sanctions against Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, ministers have said.

    The Foreign Office revealed the UK had frozen a total of £258.8 billion of bank assets, compared to £240 billion by the US and £33.8 billion by the EU."


    Not sure where this rhetoric comes from that we aren't pulling our weight in this area.


    Hadn’t seen those stats before, interesting reading.

    The country I’d be very interested to learn more about is Switzerland, who let’s face it have a banking industry built on a history of secretly sheltering tainted money and other deposits.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    On the one hand we have the Russians singling out the UK for being the prime mover in applying and advocating sanctions against Russia

    Interesting to note that Russia singled out Liz Truss as a "reason" for escalatory nuclear threats

    I'd suggest that singling out the UK isn't 'praise', it's strategy

    i'd suggest that its because Truss the Imbecile is an easy target because she fuckseverything she touches up.

    she's like a Dorres with a brain cell.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    Stevo_666 said:

    Interesting fact on which country has frozen the most Russian bank assets to date:
    https://telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/03/05/britain-freezes-russian-bank-assets-country-world/

    Quote:
    "Britain has frozen more Russian bank assets than any other country as part of the international wave of sanctions against Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, ministers have said.

    The Foreign Office revealed the UK had frozen a total of £258.8 billion of bank assets, compared to £240 billion by the US and £33.8 billion by the EU."


    Not sure where this rhetoric comes from that we aren't pulling our weight in this area.


    Hadn’t seen those stats before, interesting reading.

    The country I’d be very interested to learn more about is Switzerland, who let’s face it have a banking industry built on a history of secretly sheltering tainted money and other deposits.
    surely you can only freeze what you have and the fact that the govt can freeze so much is because the entire economy has been polluted to such a massive extent by russian money become its been so welcomed?
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    As an aside, Macron today has complained that the Tory scum govt is making it overly hard for Ukranian refugees to enter the country.

    Gotta love a bit of de pffeffel's welcoming spirit.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • pinkbikini
    pinkbikini Posts: 876
    edited March 2022