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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644


    Tory scum.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • AndyG785
    AndyG785 Posts: 20
    I think Foreign Secretary Liz Truss telling Lavrov that Rostov is a disputed area and Russia needs to get out, is slightly more worrying than a backbench MP getting Croatia mixed up with Crimea or whatever to a british audience.

    But i guess being white and a tory gets her a free pass?
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    AndyG785 said:

    I think Foreign Secretary Liz Truss telling Lavrov that Rostov is a disputed area and Russia needs to get out, is slightly more worrying than a backbench MP getting Croatia mixed up with Crimea or whatever to a british audience.

    But i guess being white and a tory gets her a free pass?

    Yes, that's why nobody here has anything bad to say about Liz Truss.
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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    Yes to be fair I've seen plenty joking about Biden mixing up Ukrainians with Iranians.
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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    So the Russian attempts to assassinate Zelenskyy.

    I've always assumed leaders didn't go in for targeting their opposite number - if only because it might be reciprocated.
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
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    pangolin said:

    AndyG785 said:

    I think Foreign Secretary Liz Truss telling Lavrov that Rostov is a disputed area and Russia needs to get out, is slightly more worrying than a backbench MP getting Croatia mixed up with Crimea or whatever to a british audience.

    But i guess being white and a tory gets her a free pass?

    Yes, that's why nobody here has anything bad to say about Liz Truss.
    apart from the fact she's a #fuckingidiot
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,551
    Another long but informative thread about Russia's oil and gas industry and its dependence on western expertise and markets.



    If the description of pipeline contracts being awarded specifically to maximise contractor profits applies to military procurement as well, you can see why their army is in such a state.
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    rjsterry said:

    Another long but informative thread about Russia's oil and gas industry and its dependence on western expertise and markets.



    If the description of pipeline contracts being awarded specifically to maximise contractor profits applies to military procurement as well, you can see why their army is in such a state.
    errr its the way military procurement contracts have always been made.

    three priorities when doing them:

    1. contractor's profit
    2. kick back level to politicians
    3. anything more money left over split between 1 & 2.

    No one gives a monkey's about whether the kit they are giving to people to use is any good - its all about the Franklins to 1 and 2 above.

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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    And don't forget all this marketing bollox about "military grade" being any good.

    military grade is the cheapest possible item to do the bare minimum of what is in the required brief.

    doesn't actually have to be any good, just has to hit bare minimum requirements and be as cheap as possible.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    A long-running saga in Private Eye is the scandal over the new armoured vehicles which have cost billions but are unusable for various reasons, and no foreseeable resolution.
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    briantrumpet said:

    A long-running saga in Private Eye is the scandal over the new armoured vehicles which have cost billions but are unusable for various reasons, and no foreseeable resolution.

    i've mentioned this before - its actually been a long running joke at work.

    thing is, the govt aren't just losing money on the project but theres a load of compo claims going in that cost them a fortune.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,327
    These evacuation routes then?
    Anyone trust them. I wouldn’t.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    pblakeney said:

    These evacuation routes then?
    Anyone trust them. I wouldn’t.

    Clearing civilians is probably seen as a good thing for Russia too as they can then give up any pretence that they aren't targeting civilians "we allowed civilians to leave so anyone left is a combatant".
  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    pblakeney said:

    These evacuation routes then?
    Anyone trust them. I wouldn’t.

    I wouldn’t be fully trusting, but if the choice for someone holed up in a besieged city is between taking a risk in the evacuation route or staying and having artillery shells rain down I’d probably go with the evacuation option.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,551
    edited March 2022
    MattFalle said:

    rjsterry said:

    Another long but informative thread about Russia's oil and gas industry and its dependence on western expertise and markets.



    If the description of pipeline contracts being awarded specifically to maximise contractor profits applies to military procurement as well, you can see why their army is in such a state.
    errr its the way military procurement contracts have always been made.

    three priorities when doing them:

    1. contractor's profit
    2. kick back level to politicians
    3. anything more money left over split between 1 & 2.

    No one gives a monkey's about whether the kit they are giving to people to use is any good - its all about the Franklins to 1 and 2 above.

    Sure, but there are degrees of corruption and a spectrum that of incompetence. In my line of work, anything with the word Heritage gets a big markup for no discernable reason. Not sure the UK military is using knock-off tyres just yet, though (feel free to correct me if wrong).
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,551
    pblakeney said:

    These evacuation routes then?
    Anyone trust them. I wouldn’t.

    Reports that it is a ceasefire INO. To nobody's surprise.
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Pross said:

    pblakeney said:

    These evacuation routes then?
    Anyone trust them. I wouldn’t.

    Clearing civilians is probably seen as a good thing for Russia too as they can then give up any pretence that they aren't targeting civilians "we allowed civilians to leave so anyone left is a combatant".
    thats what we did in Aghan to be fair....
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    rjsterry said:

    MattFalle said:

    rjsterry said:

    Another long but informative thread about Russia's oil and gas industry and its dependence on western expertise and markets.



    If the description of pipeline contracts being awarded specifically to maximise contractor profits applies to military procurement as well, you can see why their army is in such a state.
    errr its the way military procurement contracts have always been made.

    three priorities when doing them:

    1. contractor's profit
    2. kick back level to politicians
    3. anything more money left over split between 1 & 2.

    No one gives a monkey's about whether the kit they are giving to people to use is any good - its all about the Franklins to 1 and 2 above.

    Sure, but there are degrees of corruption and a spectrum that of incompetence. In my line of work, anything with the word Heritage gets a big markup for no discernable reason. Not sure the UK military is using knock-off tyres just yet, though (feel free to correct me if wrong).
    Not knock off tyres yet, but the issue Altbeg boots aren't made by Altberg in Yorkshire, why is they retail at £49.99 and not £179.99 like Yorkshire Altbergs.

    Same as the issue Aku boots.

    And they wonder why we buy our own boots.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    MattFalle said:

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    pangolin said:

    AndyG785 said:

    I think Foreign Secretary Liz Truss telling Lavrov that Rostov is a disputed area and Russia needs to get out, is slightly more worrying than a backbench MP getting Croatia mixed up with Crimea or whatever to a british audience.

    But i guess being white and a tory gets her a free pass?

    Yes, that's why nobody here has anything bad to say about Liz Truss.
    apart from the fact she's a #fuckingidiot

    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited March 2022


    Chelsea keeping up their challenge for sh!ttest fan base in football
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    rick_chasey said:



    Chelsea keeping up their challenge for sh!ttest fan base in football
    I bet they're all old and uneducated as well ;)
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:



    Chelsea keeping up their challenge for sh!ttest fan base in football
    I bet they're all old and uneducated as well ;)
    Well the Chelsea fan who p!ssed on my gate and called me a “gay c@nt” when I told him not to certainly was.

    ✌🏻
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Looks like the Ukrainians have had some successful counter attacks today.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Jesus Christ this is insane footage - not for the faint hearted

    https://news.sky.com/story/sky-news-teams-harrowing-account-of-their-violent-ambush-in-ukraine-this-week-12557585
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited March 2022
    rick_chasey said:

    Jesus Christ this is insane footage - not for the faint hearted

    https://news.sky.com/story/sky-news-teams-harrowing-account-of-their-violent-ambush-in-ukraine-this-week-12557585

    its called reality.

    its not COD or the game Rick was going on about above.

    war. its a bitshit.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,327
    kingstonian said:

    pblakeney said:

    These evacuation routes then?
    Anyone trust them. I wouldn’t.

    I wouldn’t be fully trusting, but if the choice for someone holed up in a besieged city is between taking a risk in the evacuation route or staying and having artillery shells rain down I’d probably go with the evacuation option.
    Looks like Russia went with options A and B in tandem.
    Any future "offers" should be treated as traps.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    BBC reports said Russia annonced a ceasefire to allow civpop to evacuate, then shelled the evacuation routes.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,915
    rick_chasey said:

    There's a graph on twitter that claims to show the volumes frozen. I don't think it is accurate, but it raises a valid point that volume might have more impact.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,559
    I see Putin was happy to surround himself with pretty, young Aeroflot stewardesses today, but won't sit within 5 metres of any men....
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Putin has declared that sanctions are an act of war.

    Somehow I don’t see Zara, Paypal or Samsung sending troops to attack peace loving Russia.
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