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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    Pross said:

    I'm surprised at the reaction to the attack on a nuclear power station. If you accept that the war is happening it feels like a very obvious military target to capture and control.

    Sure, but bombing it and/or killing the people who are preventing it from exploding doesn't seem sensible.
    LOAC gents.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,327

    I'm quite glad I'm not a teacher in Kentucky about to retire...

    Hmmmm. Checked your own pension pot recently? Whether personal or company.
    Not 95% down thankfully but enough to be noticeable.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    MattFalle said:

    Pross said:

    I'm surprised at the reaction to the attack on a nuclear power station. If you accept that the war is happening it feels like a very obvious military target to capture and control.

    Sure, but bombing it and/or killing the people who are preventing it from exploding doesn't seem sensible.
    LOAC gents.
    I don't think there's a Russian version of that.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    pblakeney said:

    I'm quite glad I'm not a teacher in Kentucky about to retire...

    Hmmmm. Checked your own pension pot recently? Whether personal or company.
    Not 95% down thankfully but enough to be noticeable.

    Oh yes, I expect so. Though I might just hide behind one of the now-redundant covid sofas until it's all over.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    MattFalle said:

    Pross said:

    I'm surprised at the reaction to the attack on a nuclear power station. If you accept that the war is happening it feels like a very obvious military target to capture and control.

    Sure, but bombing it and/or killing the people who are preventing it from exploding doesn't seem sensible.
    LOAC gents.
    I don't think there's a Russian version of that.
    not sure but thinking about it, as they haven't declated war it doesn't apply to them.

    Same for OP BANNER and US in Vietnam.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,559

    pblakeney said:

    I'm quite glad I'm not a teacher in Kentucky about to retire...

    Hmmmm. Checked your own pension pot recently? Whether personal or company.
    Not 95% down thankfully but enough to be noticeable.

    Oh yes, I expect so. Though I might just hide behind one of the now-redundant covid sofas until it's all over.
    Aren't you a TPS member Brian, in which case it makes no difference to you.

    Also seems a number of people here have zero idea about how investment decisions are made on occupational pension schemes. (Doesn't excuse the TRUSTEES of the Kentucky scheme though.)
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349

    pblakeney said:

    I'm quite glad I'm not a teacher in Kentucky about to retire...

    Hmmmm. Checked your own pension pot recently? Whether personal or company.
    Not 95% down thankfully but enough to be noticeable.

    Oh yes, I expect so. Though I might just hide behind one of the now-redundant covid sofas until it's all over.
    Aren't you a TPS member Brian, in which case it makes no difference to you.

    Also seems a number of people here have zero idea about how investment decisions are made on occupational pension schemes. (Doesn't excuse the TRUSTEES of the Kentucky scheme though.)

    That's part of the mix, thankfully, though won't be enough to keep me in bikes, cakes & trumpets by itself.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    Pross said:

    I'm surprised at the reaction to the attack on a nuclear power station. If you accept that the war is happening it feels like a very obvious military target to capture and control.

    Sure, but bombing it and/or killing the people who are preventing it from exploding doesn't seem sensible.
    LOAC gents.
    I don't think there's a Russian version of that.
    not sure but thinking about it, as they haven't declated war it doesn't apply to them.

    Same for OP BANNER and US in Vietnam.
    Not sure the legal definition of war includes either of the parties acknowledging that they are at war.

    If the law does work like that I'm not going to acknowledge that I'm driving a motor vehicle the next time I'm caught doing 90 in a 30 zone.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    Pross said:

    I'm surprised at the reaction to the attack on a nuclear power station. If you accept that the war is happening it feels like a very obvious military target to capture and control.

    Sure, but bombing it and/or killing the people who are preventing it from exploding doesn't seem sensible.
    LOAC gents.
    I don't think there's a Russian version of that.
    not sure but thinking about it, as they haven't declated war it doesn't apply to them.

    Same for OP BANNER and US in Vietnam.
    Not sure the legal definition of war includes either of the parties acknowledging that they are at war.

    If the law does work like that I'm not going to acknowledge that I'm driving a motor vehicle the next time I'm caught doing 90 in a 30 zone.
    it does and they do.

    war is quite complex, its not all just shooting and blowing stuff up you know.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,915
    Trouble is the US has managed to reinterpret the rules so much that it is hard to imagine Russia worrying about them too much.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Regular forces still abide, the problem is irregular that countries use.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,915
    MattFalle said:

    Regular forces still abide, the problem is irregular that countries use.

    It was fairly regular forces that bombed the MSF hospital, no? That's a randomly chosen event from many.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    Pross said:

    I'm surprised at the reaction to the attack on a nuclear power station. If you accept that the war is happening it feels like a very obvious military target to capture and control.

    Sure, but bombing it and/or killing the people who are preventing it from exploding doesn't seem sensible.
    LOAC gents.
    I don't think there's a Russian version of that.
    not sure but thinking about it, as they haven't declated war it doesn't apply to them.

    Same for OP BANNER and US in Vietnam.
    Not sure the legal definition of war includes either of the parties acknowledging that they are at war.

    If the law does work like that I'm not going to acknowledge that I'm driving a motor vehicle the next time I'm caught doing 90 in a 30 zone.
    it does and they do.

    war is quite complex, its not all just shooting and blowing stuff up you know.
    Neither of us gas any knowledge of international law, but brief reading is that the laws apply to "belligerents". One of the duties under Geneva convention is to declare war, so the fact that Russia are belligerents but have not declared war is itself a breach.

    According to 2 mins on Wikipedia. Which makes me an expert.

  • AndyG785
    AndyG785 Posts: 20
    I thought i'd add my two penny worth! Putin invokes Nukes over Ukraine, we run away... Putin can therefore go into Latvia etc and shout "Nukes" and we wont invoke art5

    Have i missed anything? because for the life of me, if we wont try and stop genocide, then why on earth would we help a small Baltic state.

    But of course, without the USA (and their re enforcement of eastern Europe has been pathetic) Nato can do little & its likely as not the Republicans will win in 2024 and a POTUS who is in the imagine of Trump (or Trump himself) will not come to Europes aid for the Baltic's, so thats the end of Nato.
    So all Putin has to do is wait and at 69, he has years of warmongering life left in him.

    What the west also needs to realise is the capture of Ukraine will leave him in an unassailable position, he will have been proven right.

    Anyway, i'm going back to re building my TCR.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    If he attacks a Nato country it will be defended with conventional warfare.

    If he attacks a Nato country with nuclear weapons there will be a commensurate response.

    I don't think this applies to Georgia or Moldova, because I don't think the EU would act as one, millitarily.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,551
    edited March 2022
    MattFalle said:

    Pross said:

    I'm surprised at the reaction to the attack on a nuclear power station. If you accept that the war is happening it feels like a very obvious military target to capture and control.

    breaks the Laws of Armed Conflict.

    very very very big no no. war crimes jobbie.

    you don't break LOAC - we get lectures and lectures on it.
    I mean the guy is known for shelling residential areas to dust so probably thinks of them more as guidelines at best. If it goes up he'll cross his fingers for an easterly, but probably still not that bothered.
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167

    If he attacks a Nato country it will be defended with conventional warfare.

    If he attacks a Nato country with nuclear weapons there will be a commensurate response.

    I don't think this applies to Georgia or Moldova, because I don't think the EU would act as one, militarily.

    I should say that the evidence suggests that the Russian military wouldn't stand much of a chance against a nato force. They seem just about able to create havoc against mostly civilians, but even that's a struggle.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,559
    Interesting to see loopholes in sanctions. Perhaps the dockers should have unloaded and the LNG then be ceased by UK Govt.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-60619112
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    And Twitter's offline there now too. Maybe Trump's social media app will be allowed instead.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    Interesting to see loopholes in sanctions. Perhaps the dockers should have unloaded and the LNG then be ceased by UK Govt.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-60619112

    ah, there will always be loopholes in any legislation until someone exploits them and people realise they are there and they're closed.

    its why some lawyers are very clever and Nadine Dorres is as #thickaspigshit

    in this case though its probably - nay, definitly - down to some corrupt Tory politician taking a backhander to issue drafting instructions allowing this to happen.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Not sure if it is sanction related but the wife said she had to try several garages to find diesel tonight
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited March 2022

    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    Pross said:

    I'm surprised at the reaction to the attack on a nuclear power station. If you accept that the war is happening it feels like a very obvious military target to capture and control.

    Sure, but bombing it and/or killing the people who are preventing it from exploding doesn't seem sensible.
    LOAC gents.
    I don't think there's a Russian version of that.
    not sure but thinking about it, as they haven't declated war it doesn't apply to them.

    Same for OP BANNER and US in Vietnam.
    Not sure the legal definition of war includes either of the parties acknowledging that they are at war.

    If the law does work like that I'm not going to acknowledge that I'm driving a motor vehicle the next time I'm caught doing 90 in a 30 zone.
    it does and they do.

    war is quite complex, its not all just shooting and blowing stuff up you know.
    Neither of us gas any knowledge of international law, but brief reading is that the laws apply to "belligerents". One of the duties under Geneva convention is to declare war, so the fact that Russia are belligerents but have not declared war is itself a breach.

    According to 2 mins on Wikipedia. Which makes me an expert.

    i'm no lawyer but knowing the basics on a practical level keeps me out of prison quite often, so i'd say i have a vested interest.

    remember also that declaring war/accepting a declaration of war allows you to access a whole load of both international and domestic resources.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • crescent
    crescent Posts: 1,201
    edited March 2022
    Probably a few days behind the times but I just saw a clip about Dianne Abbot discussing Russia's invasion of Croatia. She is the gift that just keeps giving.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dY27q2cHcN0
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    Pross said:

    I'm surprised at the reaction to the attack on a nuclear power station. If you accept that the war is happening it feels like a very obvious military target to capture and control.

    Sure, but bombing it and/or killing the people who are preventing it from exploding doesn't seem sensible.
    LOAC gents.
    I don't think there's a Russian version of that.
    not sure but thinking about it, as they haven't declated war it doesn't apply to them.

    Same for OP BANNER and US in Vietnam.
    Not sure the legal definition of war includes either of the parties acknowledging that they are at war.

    If the law does work like that I'm not going to acknowledge that I'm driving a motor vehicle the next time I'm caught doing 90 in a 30 zone.
    it does and they do.

    war is quite complex, its not all just shooting and blowing stuff up you know.
    Neither of us gas any knowledge of international law, but brief reading is that the laws apply to "belligerents". One of the duties under Geneva convention is to declare war, so the fact that Russia are belligerents but have not declared war is itself a breach.

    According to 2 mins on Wikipedia. Which makes me an expert.

    i'm no lawyer but knowing the badics on a practicsl level keeps me out of prison wuite often, so i'd say i have a vested interest.

    remember also that declaring war/accepting a declaration of war allows you to access a whole load of both international and domestic resources.
    If you are correct, there will be no war crimes committed. Most of the Hauge seems to disagree with you on that.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    edited March 2022
    My bet would be he wants to re-east
    crescent said:

    Probably a few days behind the times but I just saw a clip about Dianne Abbot discussing Russia's invasion of Croatia. She is the gift that just keeps giving.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dY27q2cHcN0

    :D
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  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    More on tory scum being owned by the Russians here
    JimD666 said:
    I read this. Terrifying. Shows how gullible people are. Guess it makes sense that we have a well educated population - with media studies degrees so they know they are being influenced by propoganda
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167

    More on tory scum being owned by the Russians here

    JimD666 said:
    I read this. Terrifying. Shows how gullible people are. Guess it makes sense that we have a well educated population - with media studies degrees so they know they are being influenced by propoganda
    Brexit?
    MAGA?
    Anti vax?

    Don't kid yourself.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited March 2022

    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    Pross said:

    I'm surprised at the reaction to the attack on a nuclear power station. If you accept that the war is happening it feels like a very obvious military target to capture and control.

    Sure, but bombing it and/or killing the people who are preventing it from exploding doesn't seem sensible.
    LOAC gents.
    I don't think there's a Russian version of that.
    not sure but thinking about it, as they haven't declated war it doesn't apply to them.

    Same for OP BANNER and US in Vietnam.
    Not sure the legal definition of war includes either of the parties acknowledging that they are at war.

    If the law does work like that I'm not going to acknowledge that I'm driving a motor vehicle the next time I'm caught doing 90 in a 30 zone.
    it does and they do.

    war is quite complex, its not all just shooting and blowing stuff up you know.
    Neither of us gas any knowledge of international law, but brief reading is that the laws apply to "belligerents". One of the duties under Geneva convention is to declare war, so the fact that Russia are belligerents but have not declared war is itself a breach.

    According to 2 mins on Wikipedia. Which makes me an expert.

    i'm no lawyer but knowing the badics on a practicsl level keeps me out of prison wuite often, so i'd say i have a vested interest.

    remember also that declaring war/accepting a declaration of war allows you to access a whole load of both international and domestic resources.
    If you are correct, there will be no war crimes committed. Most of the Hauge seems to disagree with you on that.
    nope - crimes have been comitted through breaches of LOAC.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    Pross said:

    I'm surprised at the reaction to the attack on a nuclear power station. If you accept that the war is happening it feels like a very obvious military target to capture and control.

    Sure, but bombing it and/or killing the people who are preventing it from exploding doesn't seem sensible.
    LOAC gents.
    I don't think there's a Russian version of that.
    not sure but thinking about it, as they haven't declated war it doesn't apply to them.

    Same for OP BANNER and US in Vietnam.
    Not sure the legal definition of war includes either of the parties acknowledging that they are at war.

    If the law does work like that I'm not going to acknowledge that I'm driving a motor vehicle the next time I'm caught doing 90 in a 30 zone.
    it does and they do.

    war is quite complex, its not all just shooting and blowing stuff up you know.
    Neither of us gas any knowledge of international law, but brief reading is that the laws apply to "belligerents". One of the duties under Geneva convention is to declare war, so the fact that Russia are belligerents but have not declared war is itself a breach.

    According to 2 mins on Wikipedia. Which makes me an expert.

    i'm no lawyer but knowing the badics on a practicsl level keeps me out of prison wuite often, so i'd say i have a vested interest.

    remember also that declaring war/accepting a declaration of war allows you to access a whole load of both international and domestic resources.
    If you are correct, there will be no war crimes committed. Most of the Hauge seems to disagree with you on that.
    nope - crimes have been comitted through breaches of LOAC.
    Fair enough. I literally just enjoy an argument.