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I didn’t comment upon the UK’s response, just Poland’s. I agree about this lightly up being a token gesture.rjsterry said:
Not what I meant at all. Just that we could do better with regard to people wanting to get out of Ukraine. Otherwise, raising the 🇺🇦 over Parliament is a bit of a hollow gesture.blazing_saddles said:
It sounds as if you think that two wrongs would be the more appropriate option.rjsterry said:
They were notably less welcoming to the last bunch of refugees that turned up. I get that Ukraine is their next door neighbour but it's still a notable contrast.blazing_saddles said:
I would expect that to be the case at this juncture.rjsterry said:
Poland - Poland - is doing more for war refugees than us at the moment.Pross said:
Fair enough, in that case I agree it's a disgrace although with this Government you wouldn't expect anything else. Hopefully we'll take our share of refugees but I won't hold my breath.pblakeney said:
As of yesterday.Pross said:
Are they or are you just making assumptions?rick_chasey said:
They’re announcing this because they’re not announcing what they should be, which is visa waivers for all Ukrainians and routes to help refugees.Pross said:
Not sure if I'm reading that right as I seem to be seeing it differently to you. Aren't they just saying if you're here already we're going to let you stay longer? I don't think it is anything about who they are prepared to allow in going forward.rick_chasey said:
"The UK has stopped accepting visa applications from Ukrainians stuck in the country, meaning there is no safe and legal route for them to seek asylum in Britain unless they have British relatives."
More could be done to help.
But I think you knew that.
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Bits of SWIFT - the bits that allow them to be paid for gas are still intact.tailwindhome said:Reports the EU have kicked Russia out of Swift
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Who is feeling sorry for him?Ben6899 said:People feeling sorry for Roman Abramovich.
You don't end up in Putin's pocket because you studied hard at school and went on to earn an honest living...
No one on here that I've seen.
Of course your Man Utd haven't taken any state money from Putin have they?
No. No one on here.
But this has nothing to do with football partisanship. Good grief.Ben
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Some strange arguments on this thread.
Amazing just what a bad tweet this isrick_chasey said:
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Looks like it's coming but have the details been decided?rick_chasey said:
Bits of SWIFT - the bits that allow them to be paid for gas are still intact.tailwindhome said:Reports the EU have kicked Russia out of Swift
The view from the corporate treasury perspective is that this is not fatal as cross border payments can be made by alternative means, but it definitely makes life more difficult for Russia. Not enough on its own but I think it should be done."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Germany has only agreed to a limited ban. Every other country has agreed to a complete ban including Cyprus and Italy after chats with Zelenskyy.rick_chasey said:
Bits of SWIFT - the bits that allow them to be paid for gas are still intact.tailwindhome said:Reports the EU have kicked Russia out of Swift
Still that unused pipeline is not being used...0 -
Well Germany and Italy are still buying Russian gas so how they gonna pay for that?Stevo_666 said:
Looks like it's coming but have the details been decided?rick_chasey said:
Bits of SWIFT - the bits that allow them to be paid for gas are still intact.tailwindhome said:Reports the EU have kicked Russia out of Swift
The view from the corporate treasury perspective is that this is not fatal as cross border payments can be made by alternative means, but it definitely makes life more difficult for Russia. Not enough on its own but I think it should be done.0 -
Yeah. No deterrence without sacrifice. This is the cost of a strategic energy mistakeTheBigBean said:
Germany has only agreed to a limited ban. Every other country has agreed to a complete ban including Cyprus and Italy after chats with Zelenskyy.rick_chasey said:
Bits of SWIFT - the bits that allow them to be paid for gas are still intact.tailwindhome said:Reports the EU have kicked Russia out of Swift
Still that unused pipeline is not being used...0 -
We seem to be misunderstanding one another, so for clarity, the reason I compared our response with regards to accepting refugees to Poland was that they were recently known for refusing to accept refugees who arrived through Belarus. That's all.blazing_saddles said:
I didn’t comment upon the UK’s response, just Poland’s. I agree about this lightly up being a token gesture.rjsterry said:
Not what I meant at all. Just that we could do better with regard to people wanting to get out of Ukraine. Otherwise, raising the 🇺🇦 over Parliament is a bit of a hollow gesture.blazing_saddles said:
It sounds as if you think that two wrongs would be the more appropriate option.rjsterry said:
They were notably less welcoming to the last bunch of refugees that turned up. I get that Ukraine is their next door neighbour but it's still a notable contrast.blazing_saddles said:
I would expect that to be the case at this juncture.rjsterry said:
Poland - Poland - is doing more for war refugees than us at the moment.Pross said:
Fair enough, in that case I agree it's a disgrace although with this Government you wouldn't expect anything else. Hopefully we'll take our share of refugees but I won't hold my breath.pblakeney said:
As of yesterday.Pross said:
Are they or are you just making assumptions?rick_chasey said:
They’re announcing this because they’re not announcing what they should be, which is visa waivers for all Ukrainians and routes to help refugees.Pross said:
Not sure if I'm reading that right as I seem to be seeing it differently to you. Aren't they just saying if you're here already we're going to let you stay longer? I don't think it is anything about who they are prepared to allow in going forward.rick_chasey said:
"The UK has stopped accepting visa applications from Ukrainians stuck in the country, meaning there is no safe and legal route for them to seek asylum in Britain unless they have British relatives."
More could be done to help.
But I think you knew that.
To have been discussing a possible invasion for weeks but seemingly not have given any thought to the possibility of refugees wanting to come to the UK is not good enough. The actual f***ing immigration minister suggesting people make use of the seasonal worker scheme as an escape route from a war just beggars belief.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Dont know but that's not my question or my point. So what details have been decided? A Google shows it is still being decided.rick_chasey said:
Well Germany and Italy are still buying Russian gas so how they gonna pay for that?Stevo_666 said:
Looks like it's coming but have the details been decided?rick_chasey said:
Bits of SWIFT - the bits that allow them to be paid for gas are still intact.tailwindhome said:Reports the EU have kicked Russia out of Swift
The view from the corporate treasury perspective is that this is not fatal as cross border payments can be made by alternative means, but it definitely makes life more difficult for Russia. Not enough on its own but I think it should be done."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Well we know what US and UK have been suggesting which is everything, and we know the Germans won’t stop buying their gas so it’ll be everything bar that more or less.Stevo_666 said:
Dont know but that's not my question or my point. So what details have been decided? A Google shows it is still being decided.rick_chasey said:
Well Germany and Italy are still buying Russian gas so how they gonna pay for that?Stevo_666 said:
Looks like it's coming but have the details been decided?rick_chasey said:
Bits of SWIFT - the bits that allow them to be paid for gas are still intact.tailwindhome said:Reports the EU have kicked Russia out of Swift
The view from the corporate treasury perspective is that this is not fatal as cross border payments can be made by alternative means, but it definitely makes life more difficult for Russia. Not enough on its own but I think it should be done.0 -
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As mentioned above, knocking them out of SWIFT doesn't make cross border payments impossible, it makes them more difficult and costly.rick_chasey said:
Well we know what US and UK have been suggesting which is everything, and we know the Germans won’t stop buying their gas so it’ll be everything bar that more or less.Stevo_666 said:
Dont know but that's not my question or my point. So what details have been decided? A Google shows it is still being decided.rick_chasey said:
Well Germany and Italy are still buying Russian gas so how they gonna pay for that?Stevo_666 said:
Looks like it's coming but have the details been decided?rick_chasey said:
Bits of SWIFT - the bits that allow them to be paid for gas are still intact.tailwindhome said:Reports the EU have kicked Russia out of Swift
The view from the corporate treasury perspective is that this is not fatal as cross border payments can be made by alternative means, but it definitely makes life more difficult for Russia. Not enough on its own but I think it should be done."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
So other than China all the assets in that list are frozen.
Basically trying to start a run on the rouble.0 -
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Zelenskiy has asked for a ‘foreign legion’ of fighters from outside Ukraine. So that’s an open invitation to five ‘retired’ hard as nails Scotsmen from 23 Squadron SAS with 70’s porn moustaches all nicknamed Jock to start rigging up bridges for demolition.0
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“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Does anyone know what actually happens to all the people arrested in Russia at the anti-war protests. Are they all banged up indefinitely in a jail somewhere or do they let them out the next morning?0
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Some will be beaten up and released others will spend several years in prisonmrb123 said:Does anyone know what actually happens to all the people arrested in Russia at the anti-war protests. Are they all banged up indefinitely in a jail somewhere or do they let them out the next morning?
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Get let out. Sometimes they give them a criminal record.mrb123 said:Does anyone know what actually happens to all the people arrested in Russia at the anti-war protests. Are they all banged up indefinitely in a jail somewhere or do they let them out the next morning?
They’re not nice places to stay overnight. Russians don’t believe in human rights so it’s pretty grim0 -
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Joke currently doing the rounds is some Russian were deployed to a forrest, only to find themselves exposed as it had been illegally deforested0
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Might be a bit too late for this lot.thegreatdivide said:Zelenskiy has asked for a ‘foreign legion’ of fighters from outside Ukraine. So that’s an open invitation to five ‘retired’ hard as nails Scotsmen from 23 Squadron SAS with 70’s porn moustaches all nicknamed Jock to start rigging up bridges for demolition.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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For Chelsea fans (and plenty of others) https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/we-snaffled-the-kremlin-cronies-cash-while-it-sneered-at-our-decadence-fssbp2k5d1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Can’t read beyond the opening as it’s behind a paywall.rjsterry said:For Chelsea fans (and plenty of others) https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/we-snaffled-the-kremlin-cronies-cash-while-it-sneered-at-our-decadence-fssbp2k5d
But the sporting attitude to not caring how or where the money comes from is a bugbear of mine.
Newcastle don’t care. FIFA don’t care, uefa don’t care. IOC don’t care.
UCI have numerous unappealing races, F1 has trashed races with history in pursuit of races with startling budgets. The list goes on.5 -
FIFA are going to dance on the head of a pin with this. No one will play Russia in WC qualifiers.
As I sit here now my guess is that Russia will qualify by default, because, well it's FIFA and FIFA are politically neutral and morally non-existent. And this will create a huge headache in Qatar, which is a sports washing exercise itself, because the conflict will still be going on.0 -
True story my grandfather played football for Holland but got dropped because he refused to play against the nazis (before the war)
Spent the entire occupation in hiding and so gave up going to uni.
Got the news clippings somewhere. This “sports washing” stuff isn’t new0
