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Dorset_Boy

Abramovich has issued a statement saying he's handed the care and stewardship of Chelsea to the charitable foundation and trustees to try to protect the club.

rick_chasey

Dorset_Boy said:

Abramovich has issued a statement saying he's handed the care and stewardship of Chelsea to the charitable foundation and trustees to try to protect the club.

Diddums.

rick_chasey

Honestly this invasion is so big. It’s shifts everything.

We’re in a new world where if you don’t have a big f@ck off military in Europe you are under threat.

US is also not the guarantor it once was. Europe is going to have to understand war at home is a legitimate problem and that they’re not a conceptual waste of space.

US is going to be preoccupied to their west, not East.

We need to get our head around the fact hard power is back in its relevance.

Dorset_Boy

rick_chasey said:

Dorset_Boy said:

Abramovich has issued a statement saying he's handed the care and stewardship of Chelsea to the charitable foundation and trustees to try to protect the club.

Diddums.

What a pathetic response, Rick.
Whatever rumoured links he has to Putin, at least he's trying not to drag his football club down, and cause yet more upset.

skyblueamateur

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Dorset_Boy said:

rick_chasey said:

Dorset_Boy said:

Abramovich has issued a statement saying he's handed the care and stewardship of Chelsea to the charitable foundation and trustees to try to protect the club.

Diddums.

What a pathetic response, Rick.
Whatever rumoured links he has to Putin, at least he's trying not to drag his football club down, and cause yet more upset.

Really? With how he accumulated his wealth I won’t be shedding any tears.

rick_chasey

Dorset_Boy said:

rick_chasey said:

Dorset_Boy said:

Abramovich has issued a statement saying he's handed the care and stewardship of Chelsea to the charitable foundation and trustees to try to protect the club.

Diddums.

What a pathetic response, Rick.
Whatever rumoured links he has to Putin, at least he's trying not to drag his football club down, and cause yet more upset.

He’s a f@cking sh!t who stole billions from Russians and used a London football club as a plaything and insurance.

I wouldn’t p!ss on him if he was on fire.

If Chelsea wanted to get in bed with him then they can lie in it.

You take their money you pay the price.

Dorset_Boy

skyblueamateur said:

We

Dorset_Boy said:

rick_chasey said:

Dorset_Boy said:

Abramovich has issued a statement saying he's handed the care and stewardship of Chelsea to the charitable foundation and trustees to try to protect the club.

Diddums.

What a pathetic response, Rick.
Whatever rumoured links he has to Putin, at least he's trying not to drag his football club down, and cause yet more upset.

Really? With how he accumulated his wealth I won’t be shedding any tears.

So you'd be happy for the club, staff and players to suffer due to Russia's invasion?

rick_chasey

Dorset_Boy said:

skyblueamateur said:

We

Dorset_Boy said:

rick_chasey said:

Dorset_Boy said:

Abramovich has issued a statement saying he's handed the care and stewardship of Chelsea to the charitable foundation and trustees to try to protect the club.

Diddums.

What a pathetic response, Rick.
Whatever rumoured links he has to Putin, at least he's trying not to drag his football club down, and cause yet more upset.

Really? With how he accumulated his wealth I won’t be shedding any tears.

So you'd be happy for the club, staff and players to suffer due to Russia's invasion?

Shouldn’t have taken his stolen money then.

How do you think he made his money?

rick_chasey

Go read up on the aluminium wars.

Abramovic is a gangster and a thief and he has most likely got away with literal murder, either on his order or done himself.

skyblueamateur

Dorset_Boy said:

skyblueamateur said:

We

Dorset_Boy said:

rick_chasey said:

Dorset_Boy said:

Abramovich has issued a statement saying he's handed the care and stewardship of Chelsea to the charitable foundation and trustees to try to protect the club.

Diddums.

What a pathetic response, Rick.
Whatever rumoured links he has to Putin, at least he's trying not to drag his football club down, and cause yet more upset.

Really? With how he accumulated his wealth I won’t be shedding any tears.

So you'd be happy for the club, staff and players to suffer due to Russia's invasion?

Yes. Yes I would. Similar to the Qatari World Cup. Reap what you sow. No sympathy.

skyblueamateur

First world problems. Football club going to sh1t while innocent Ukrainians are literally fighting for their lives.

Excuse me if I don’t give a sh1t

Dorset_Boy

skyblueamateur said:

Dorset_Boy said:

skyblueamateur said:

We

Dorset_Boy said:

rick_chasey said:

Dorset_Boy said:

Abramovich has issued a statement saying he's handed the care and stewardship of Chelsea to the charitable foundation and trustees to try to protect the club.

Diddums.

What a pathetic response, Rick.
Whatever rumoured links he has to Putin, at least he's trying not to drag his football club down, and cause yet more upset.

Really? With how he accumulated his wealth I won’t be shedding any tears.

So you'd be happy for the club, staff and players to suffer due to Russia's invasion?

Yes. Yes I would. Similar to the Qatari World Cup. Reap what you sow. No sympathy.

Should your club have ceased to exist when it went bankrupt leaving debtors?

skyblueamateur

Forgive me if I don’t shed crocodile tears for a geezer who made his money while best mates with Putin.

I’d rather be outraged by us not taking in the poor innocent women, children and elderly from the Ukraine rather then Abromavich.

Pross

rick_chasey said:

Honestly this invasion is so big. It’s shifts everything.

We’re in a new world where if you don’t have a big f@ck off military in Europe you are under threat.

US is also not the guarantor it once was. Europe is going to have to understand war at home is a legitimate problem and that they’re not a conceptual waste of space.

US is going to be preoccupied to their west, not East.

We need to get our head around the fact hard power is back in its relevance.

It hasn't exactly been a guarantor historically when there has been war in Europe though has it? Very late to provide support in WW1 and only joined WW2 after being attacked. The latter half of the 20th century was more about their fear if communism than protecting Europe. Since then it has been them pressuring Europe to support the wars they've started.

rick_chasey

Dorset_Boy said:

skyblueamateur said:

Dorset_Boy said:

skyblueamateur said:

We

Dorset_Boy said:

rick_chasey said:

Dorset_Boy said:

Abramovich has issued a statement saying he's handed the care and stewardship of Chelsea to the charitable foundation and trustees to try to protect the club.

Diddums.

What a pathetic response, Rick.
Whatever rumoured links he has to Putin, at least he's trying not to drag his football club down, and cause yet more upset.

Really? With how he accumulated his wealth I won’t be shedding any tears.

So you'd be happy for the club, staff and players to suffer due to Russia's invasion?

Yes. Yes I would. Similar to the Qatari World Cup. Reap what you sow. No sympathy.

Should your club have ceased to exist when it went bankrupt leaving debtors?

What about a full scale war in Europe are you struggling to understand?

Do you realise how parochial you sound?

skyblueamateur

Dorset_Boy said:

skyblueamateur said:

Dorset_Boy said:

skyblueamateur said:

We

Dorset_Boy said:

rick_chasey said:

Dorset_Boy said:

Abramovich has issued a statement saying he's handed the care and stewardship of Chelsea to the charitable foundation and trustees to try to protect the club.

Diddums.

What a pathetic response, Rick.
Whatever rumoured links he has to Putin, at least he's trying not to drag his football club down, and cause yet more upset.

Really? With how he accumulated his wealth I won’t be shedding any tears.

So you'd be happy for the club, staff and players to suffer due to Russia's invasion?

Yes. Yes I would. Similar to the Qatari World Cup. Reap what you sow. No sympathy.

Should your club have ceased to exist when it went bankrupt leaving debtors?

Yes. Yes it should. I said at the time we would have been better off starting from scratch again rather then the EFL giving the ‘golden share’ back to SISU.

Are you seriously discussing football clubs while Ukraine is in the situation it is?

Dorset_Boy

skyblueamateur said:

Dorset_Boy said:

skyblueamateur said:

Dorset_Boy said:

skyblueamateur said:

We

Dorset_Boy said:

rick_chasey said:

Dorset_Boy said:

Abramovich has issued a statement saying he's handed the care and stewardship of Chelsea to the charitable foundation and trustees to try to protect the club.

Diddums.

What a pathetic response, Rick.
Whatever rumoured links he has to Putin, at least he's trying not to drag his football club down, and cause yet more upset.

Really? With how he accumulated his wealth I won’t be shedding any tears.

So you'd be happy for the club, staff and players to suffer due to Russia's invasion?

Yes. Yes I would. Similar to the Qatari World Cup. Reap what you sow. No sympathy.

Should your club have ceased to exist when it went bankrupt leaving debtors?

Yes. Yes it should. I said at the time we would have been better off starting from scratch again rather then the EFL giving the ‘golden share’ back to SISU.

Are you seriously discussing football clubs while Ukraine is in the situation it is?

It's part of the whole picture, allbeit a tiny one, but had Rick not posted an @rsehole response nothing further would have happened.

Dorset_Boy

skyblueamateur said:

Dorset_Boy said:

skyblueamateur said:

Dorset_Boy said:

skyblueamateur said:

We

Dorset_Boy said:

rick_chasey said:

Dorset_Boy said:

Abramovich has issued a statement saying he's handed the care and stewardship of Chelsea to the charitable foundation and trustees to try to protect the club.

Diddums.

What a pathetic response, Rick.
Whatever rumoured links he has to Putin, at least he's trying not to drag his football club down, and cause yet more upset.

Really? With how he accumulated his wealth I won’t be shedding any tears.

So you'd be happy for the club, staff and players to suffer due to Russia's invasion?

Yes. Yes I would. Similar to the Qatari World Cup. Reap what you sow. No sympathy.

Should your club have ceased to exist when it went bankrupt leaving debtors?

Yes. Yes it should. I said at the time we would have been better off starting from scratch again rather then the EFL giving the ‘golden share’ back to SISU.

Are you seriously discussing football clubs while Ukraine is in the situation it is?

rick_chasey said:

Dorset_Boy said:

skyblueamateur said:

Dorset_Boy said:

skyblueamateur said:

We

Dorset_Boy said:

rick_chasey said:

Dorset_Boy said:

Abramovich has issued a statement saying he's handed the care and stewardship of Chelsea to the charitable foundation and trustees to try to protect the club.

Diddums.

What a pathetic response, Rick.
Whatever rumoured links he has to Putin, at least he's trying not to drag his football club down, and cause yet more upset.

Really? With how he accumulated his wealth I won’t be shedding any tears.

So you'd be happy for the club, staff and players to suffer due to Russia's invasion?

Yes. Yes I would. Similar to the Qatari World Cup. Reap what you sow. No sympathy.

Should your club have ceased to exist when it went bankrupt leaving debtors?

What about a full scale war in Europe are you struggling to understand?

Do you realise how parochial you sound?

Honestlt, grow up.
It's possible to consider more than one thing at once.

skyblueamateur

Dorset_Boy said:

skyblueamateur said:

Dorset_Boy said:

skyblueamateur said:

Dorset_Boy said:

skyblueamateur said:

We

Dorset_Boy said:

rick_chasey said:

Dorset_Boy said:

Abramovich has issued a statement saying he's handed the care and stewardship of Chelsea to the charitable foundation and trustees to try to protect the club.

Diddums.

What a pathetic response, Rick.
Whatever rumoured links he has to Putin, at least he's trying not to drag his football club down, and cause yet more upset.

Really? With how he accumulated his wealth I won’t be shedding any tears.

So you'd be happy for the club, staff and players to suffer due to Russia's invasion?

Yes. Yes I would. Similar to the Qatari World Cup. Reap what you sow. No sympathy.

Should your club have ceased to exist when it went bankrupt leaving debtors?

Yes. Yes it should. I said at the time we would have been better off starting from scratch again rather then the EFL giving the ‘golden share’ back to SISU.

Are you seriously discussing football clubs while Ukraine is in the situation it is?

It's part of the whole picture, allbeit a tiny one, but had Rick not posted an @rsehole response nothing further would have happened.

I apologise, but I just don’t see it as being even in the same sphere as what is going on.

I will shed no tears for Chelsea or Abromovich. It is of no relevance.

skyblueamateur

Dorset_Boy said:

skyblueamateur said:

Dorset_Boy said:

skyblueamateur said:

Dorset_Boy said:

skyblueamateur said:

We

Dorset_Boy said:

rick_chasey said:

Dorset_Boy said:

Abramovich has issued a statement saying he's handed the care and stewardship of Chelsea to the charitable foundation and trustees to try to protect the club.

Diddums.

What a pathetic response, Rick.
Whatever rumoured links he has to Putin, at least he's trying not to drag his football club down, and cause yet more upset.

Really? With how he accumulated his wealth I won’t be shedding any tears.

So you'd be happy for the club, staff and players to suffer due to Russia's invasion?

Yes. Yes I would. Similar to the Qatari World Cup. Reap what you sow. No sympathy.

Should your club have ceased to exist when it went bankrupt leaving debtors?

Yes. Yes it should. I said at the time we would have been better off starting from scratch again rather then the EFL giving the ‘golden share’ back to SISU.

Are you seriously discussing football clubs while Ukraine is in the situation it is?

rick_chasey said:

Dorset_Boy said:

skyblueamateur said:

Dorset_Boy said:

skyblueamateur said:

We

Dorset_Boy said:

rick_chasey said:

Dorset_Boy said:

Abramovich has issued a statement saying he's handed the care and stewardship of Chelsea to the charitable foundation and trustees to try to protect the club.

Diddums.

What a pathetic response, Rick.
Whatever rumoured links he has to Putin, at least he's trying not to drag his football club down, and cause yet more upset.

Really? With how he accumulated his wealth I won’t be shedding any tears.

So you'd be happy for the club, staff and players to suffer due to Russia's invasion?

Yes. Yes I would. Similar to the Qatari World Cup. Reap what you sow. No sympathy.

Should your club have ceased to exist when it went bankrupt leaving debtors?

What about a full scale war in Europe are you struggling to understand?

Do you realise how parochial you sound?

Honestlt, grow up.
It's possible to consider more than one thing at once.

You’re discussing Chelsea football club in the same breath as the biggest conflict in Europe since the Second World War. I’m not sure I’m the one who should grow up I’ll be honest.

tailwindhome

Seems its nothing but hot air.

'Stewardship & care' being described as meaningless

skyblueamateur

tailwindhome said:

Seems its nothing but hot air.

'Stewardship & care' being described as meaningless

Smoke and mirrors

tailwindhome

Delete- misread the quotes didn't I.

blazing_saddles

rick_chasey said:

Dorset_Boy said:

skyblueamateur said:

Dorset_Boy said:

skyblueamateur said:

We

Dorset_Boy said:

rick_chasey said:

Dorset_Boy said:

Abramovich has issued a statement saying he's handed the care and stewardship of Chelsea to the charitable foundation and trustees to try to protect the club.

Diddums.

What a pathetic response, Rick.
Whatever rumoured links he has to Putin, at least he's trying not to drag his football club down, and cause yet more upset.

Really? With how he accumulated his wealth I won’t be shedding any tears.

So you'd be happy for the club, staff and players to suffer due to Russia's invasion?

Yes. Yes I would. Similar to the Qatari World Cup. Reap what you sow. No sympathy.

Should your club have ceased to exist when it went bankrupt leaving debtors?

What about a full scale war in Europe are you struggling to understand?

Do you realise how parochial you sound?

About half as paranoid as you sound right now Rick.
Maybe you need to fit some body armour to the back of that settee.

skyblueamateur

We’ve had opinions on Chelsea football club but if I’m honest I’m more concerned about posters opinions on the pending refugee crisis.

I pray @surrey_commuter isn’t correct in his assessment. There’s poor women, children and elderly who need our shelter.

First.Aspect

This thread is so informative.

Ben6899

People feeling sorry for Roman Abramovich.

You don't end up in Putin's pocket because you studied hard at school and went on to earn an honest living...

kingstonian

rick_chasey said:

kingstonian said:

So what’s wrong with announcing what is being done for those Ukrainians already in the UK?

Because it is f@ck all obviously.

This is total war. They’re literally showing the nation how to make homemade firebombs.

Any Ukrainian fleeing Ukraine is a refugee and should not need a visa regardless.

That is literally international law,

Furthermore, if Britain makes out it it supporting the nation then that is part of it.

UK pushed for Ukraine to be part of NATO. That’s to its credit.

They should have the same approach to migration to their approach for things with guns

It isn’t f@ck all to the 3 Ukrainians I know that will be benefiting from this approach.

Clearly much more can and should be done for those that are attempting to flee Ukraine, but those already here who have an upcoming visa renewal now aren’t fearing that they’d not secure a renewal and be forced back to what is now a war zone.

TheBigBean

No male refugees. Very old school. No chat about that here either.

kingstonian

Until Abramovich is no longer the owner of the club, nothing has changed. He’s literally propping the club up with a >£1bn loan which he’s not seeking repayments on.