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They should get one of the Klitschko brothers to challenge him to a fight to resolve the matter. He would then have a choice of a battering or looking like a coward.0
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Possibly insane stupidity…ddraver said:
Conversely, maybe suggests the explanation to the Russian troops of exactly what they are doing and why they are there may be somewhat separated from the truth.0 -
He'll be removed by someone within Russia not by the west.rick_chasey said:
He’s got nukes so we need to find a way to get him from escalating to that point one way or the other. Can’t rely on him being deposed before he gets nukeyTheBigBean said:
Would presume he will go in the same way as every dictator before him. Live by the sword die by the sword.rick_chasey said:Ideally we need a way out for Putin.
It’s unlikely we can get rid of him, so if he can get out an save face we should work on it (though clearly not giving up an inch of Ukrainian ground)0 -
You have to hope this is the outcome. It’s not much of a gravy train to ride if it leads to Armageddon. You’d assume at least one or two will step up to the plate when the time comes.TheBigBean said:
He'll be removed by someone within Russia not by the west.rick_chasey said:
He’s got nukes so we need to find a way to get him from escalating to that point one way or the other. Can’t rely on him being deposed before he gets nukeyTheBigBean said:
Would presume he will go in the same way as every dictator before him. Live by the sword die by the sword.rick_chasey said:Ideally we need a way out for Putin.
It’s unlikely we can get rid of him, so if he can get out an save face we should work on it (though clearly not giving up an inch of Ukrainian ground)0 -
BP have announced they are offloading their 19.75% stake in Rosneft0
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There's an article on either the BBC or one of the natiknals about his inner circle. It didn't leave much room for optimism.morstar said:
You have to hope this is the outcome. It’s not much of a gravy train to ride if it leads to Armageddon. You’d assume at least one or two will step up to the plate when the time comes.TheBigBean said:
He'll be removed by someone within Russia not by the west.rick_chasey said:
He’s got nukes so we need to find a way to get him from escalating to that point one way or the other. Can’t rely on him being deposed before he gets nukeyTheBigBean said:
Would presume he will go in the same way as every dictator before him. Live by the sword die by the sword.rick_chasey said:Ideally we need a way out for Putin.
It’s unlikely we can get rid of him, so if he can get out an save face we should work on it (though clearly not giving up an inch of Ukrainian ground)0 -
People seem to be forgetting he's had 9+ years to ensure his inner circle is completely loyal and/or too scared to cross him.1
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At considerable loss. Absolute firesale. RIP shareholders.kingstonian said:BP have announced they are offloading their 19.75% stake in Rosneft
(Again, this was your ESG risk right?)0 -
Chelsea charity foundation have rejected the opportunity to 'run' the club
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
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rick_chasey said:
At considerable loss. Absolute firesale. RIP shareholders.kingstonian said:BP have announced they are offloading their 19.75% stake in Rosneft
(Again, this was your ESG risk right?)
Not sure what you mean.0 -
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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Chuck them out of our sports while we’re at it.0 -
Having your business heavily invested in Russian oil and having your CEO on a board with Putin is a governance risk (the G in ESG) so you would hope that given every investor in Europe waxes on about doing ESG analysis they should have priced that risk in (they won’t have)kingstonian said:rick_chasey said:
At considerable loss. Absolute firesale. RIP shareholders.kingstonian said:BP have announced they are offloading their 19.75% stake in Rosneft
(Again, this was your ESG risk right?)
Not sure what you mean.1 -
Would you be able to fact check your Twitter posts? The story is from yesterday, has been denied (meaning little) and isn't reported on any more reliable media.rick_chasey said:
Putin sacks his general.
Gone full downfall.1 -
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Loyality is usually a temporary thing that fades in the face of opportunity and money.JimD666 said:People seem to be forgetting he's had 9+ years to ensure his inner circle is completely loyal and/or too scared to cross him.
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Anyway we’re in a siege situation now. 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻Let’s hope they’re ok in there.
Am a bit worried they’re gonna go “raize it to the ground” approach with a more “compliant” general.
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rick_chasey said:
Having your business heavily invested in Russian oil and having your CEO on a board with Putin is a governance risk (the G in ESG) so you would hope that given every investor in Europe waxes on about doing ESG analysis they should have priced that risk in (they won’t have)kingstonian said:rick_chasey said:
At considerable loss. Absolute firesale. RIP shareholders.kingstonian said:BP have announced they are offloading their 19.75% stake in Rosneft
(Again, this was your ESG risk right?)
Not sure what you mean.
Ah, I see - thought your post was referring to something I’d previously said, but it is more general.
Yes, would have thought BP will have considered at some point in time the risk of relations with Russia going sour. If not, that’d be pretty amateurish.
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I don't think they've actually sold it have they? BBC:rick_chasey said:
At considerable loss. Absolute firesale. RIP shareholders.kingstonian said:BP have announced they are offloading their 19.75% stake in Rosneft
(Again, this was your ESG risk right?)Immediately offloading the stake to a potentially inappropriate buyer was not an option.
The company has decided to "divest", meaning it will sever its financial ties with Rosneft, stop taking a dividend and step back from its two seats on the board.
Company officials say it's too soon to say exactly how this stake will be disposed of.- Genesis Croix de Fer
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Good spot. Probably wrong! I can take it down?TheBigBean said:
Would you be able to fact check your Twitter posts? The story is from yesterday, has been denied (meaning little) and isn't reported on any more reliable media.rick_chasey said:
Putin sacks his general.
Gone full downfall.0 -
I wonder how much talk of nukes it will take before panic buying kicks off again.- Genesis Croix de Fer
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pangolin said:
I don't think they've actually sold it have they? BBC:rick_chasey said:
At considerable loss. Absolute firesale. RIP shareholders.kingstonian said:BP have announced they are offloading their 19.75% stake in Rosneft
(Again, this was your ESG risk right?)Immediately offloading the stake to a potentially inappropriate buyer was not an option.
The company has decided to "divest", meaning it will sever its financial ties with Rosneft, stop taking a dividend and step back from its two seats on the board.
Company officials say it's too soon to say exactly how this stake will be disposed of.
No, not sold yet, but they will.0 -
pangolin said:
I don't think they've actually sold it have they? BBC:rick_chasey said:
At considerable loss. Absolute firesale. RIP shareholders.kingstonian said:BP have announced they are offloading their 19.75% stake in Rosneft
(Again, this was your ESG risk right?)Immediately offloading the stake to a potentially inappropriate buyer was not an option.
The company has decided to "divest", meaning it will sever its financial ties with Rosneft, stop taking a dividend and step back from its two seats on the board.
Company officials say it's too soon to say exactly how this stake will be disposed of.
They’re gonna lose a fortune on it.
They’ve not sold it yet but it’s a firesale
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Saw a guy fill up his car and 3 containers with unleaded yesterday.pangolin said:I wonder how much talk of nukes it will take before panic buying kicks off again.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Outside of Ukraine it’s all eyes on the ruble to see if there is a run on it. Indications so far suggest there will be.
Lotta pain for a lot of Russians.
Russian central bank has had a big chunk of its firepower locked up.0